NFL style Division System in the NRL

[T.S Quint]

Teams should just play each other once during a season.
Home or away would be based on where the two teams played the previous year (Parra plays Newcastle at home one year, away the next and so on).

Less games means players will stop whinging about too much football. Opens up plenty of time for a proper rep season. Each game becomes more of a premium ticket - with only 6-7 home games each season fans are more likely to go to a game. Wins and losses are more important - at the moment you can go on a 5 game losing streak and still end up Minor Premiers. Under this system you need to be up for it every single week or risk missing out on Finals.
I always find there is a bit of a lull during the middle of the season where the footy gets a bit boring. This would eliminate that.

Would never happen in a million years though. TV networks would hate it, and so the money would dry up.

 

[dangerousdave]

We are based in the St George area.

That is incorrect.

 

[myrrh ken]

Teams should just play each other once during a season.
Home or away would be based on where the two teams played the previous year (Parra plays Newcastle at home one year, away the next and so on).

Less games means players will stop whinging about too much football. Opens up plenty of time for a proper rep season. Each game becomes more of a premium ticket - with only 6-7 home games each season fans are more likely to go to a game. Wins and losses are more important - at the moment you can go on a 5 game losing streak and still end up Minor Premiers. Under this system you need to be up for it every single week or risk missing out on Finals.
I always find there is a bit of a lull during the middle of the season where the footy gets a bit boring. This would eliminate that.

Would never happen in a million years though. TV networks would hate it, and so the money would dry up.

16 rounds is pretty short. Yep, would be a bit of a drop in revenue

 

[alien]

No thanks.

 

[Last Week]

In the NFL, only a few times has a team with a better win loss record missed out on making the playoffs to a team that had a worse one. If we had something here similar, I don't think we need to worry about undeserving teams getting through.

I think the best advantage for us would be to create a draw. Playing the teams we want to play twice (crowd drawers).

If it's for the purpose of getting to the finals we could do it once we get to 20 teams. 4 divisions of 5, top 2 going through to the finals. Play teams in your division twice and everyone else once (23 games each club).

It can work here, for various reasons, it's just a matter of why would we do it and do we need it.

The next hardest decisions would be which teams would be in which division.

 

[alien]

. Play teams in your division twice and everyone else once (23 games each club).

I don't like it because a club might find itself in a division with all strong clubs, and another team might find itself in a division with weaker clubs.

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

you all know it should be split like this


Brisbane
Cronulla
Canterbury
Canberra
Melbourne
New Zealand
Penrith
North QLD

Gold Coast
St George
Souths
Roosters
Manly
Parra
Wests
Newcastle

 

[Last Week]

I don't like it because a club might find itself in a division with all strong clubs, and another team might find itself in a division with weaker clubs.

Fair argument. And a distinct possibility. All I can say is that in the NFL, the results rarely reflect that. It's highly unusual for that to happen.

Besides, it's not like our current draw is fair. Teams play weaker teams all the time because of rep football and we play some teams twice and others we don't.

Everyone would love to play Newcastle twice this year and Melbourne once. There are some who won't be and others that will.

 

[alien]

Besides, it's not like our current draw is fair. Teams play weaker teams all the time because of rep football and we play some teams twice and others we don't.

Yeah but the draw isn't the same every year, so it evens out.

Eventually each team should play the other teams once (once we have 20 teams in the comp). If you play a team at home one year, the next year you should play them away, and so on..

State of Origin should be on the weekend with no NRL clubs playing on those weekends.

 

[Last Week]

Yeah but the draw isn't the same every year, so it evens out.

What? No it doesn't. The draw is based on club preferences. There's no consistency at all.

 

[myrrh ken]

What? No it doesn't. The draw is based on club preferences. There's no consistency at all.

http://www.nrlleague.com.au/nrl-draw/

Sure?

 

[PANTHERMIKE]

Is this Tboon with another log in?

16 teams into 4 divisions. Come on.....

Nothing wrong with top 8 concept, no need to change it, never will unless we have 30 teams in the comp..

 

[unforgiven]

Just wondering what people would think of a NFL style Division system in the NRL, we would have 4 Divisions of 4 teams, play everyone in your own division twice, and home & away vs one of the other divisions but it would rotate each year then the other 2 divisions you would play each team once making a total of 22 game season, the Divisions could split like this.

North Division
Brisbane
North Queensland
Gold Coast
Newcastle

City Division
South Sydney
Sydney Roosters
Manly
Cronulla

Country Division
Parramatta
Wests
Penrith
Canterbury

Tasman Division
New Zealand
Melbourne
Canberra
St.George Illawarra

For the Finals Top 4 places will go to the Division winners seeding based on record, with the remaining 4 qualifiers coming from the next 4 teams with the best record in the comp!!

All just a thought for debate also it would leave a lot of room for future Expansion and the Divisions can be re-aligned accordingly while protecting most rivalries!!

Biggest problem I have with it is the slim possibility of an extremely awful team making the playoffs, if every team in a division loses all their games verses teams outside their division and then split with the teams in their division it is possible for a team with a record of 3 wins and 19 loses to make the finals. As unlikely as that is to occur we should not use a system that has this as even a remote possibility.

 

[LineBall]

Just wondering what people would think of a NFL style Division system in the NRL, we would have 4 Divisions of 4 teams, play everyone in your own division twice, and home & away vs one of the other divisions but it would rotate each year then the other 2 divisions you would play each team once making a total of 22 game season, the Divisions could split like this.

North Division
Brisbane
North Queensland
Gold Coast
Newcastle

City Division
South Sydney
Sydney Roosters
Manly
Cronulla

Country Division
Parramatta
Wests
Penrith
Canterbury

Tasman Division
New Zealand
Melbourne
Canberra
St.George Illawarra

For the Finals Top 4 places will go to the Division winners seeding based on record, with the remaining 4 qualifiers coming from the next 4 teams with the best record in the comp!!

All just a thought for debate also it would leave a lot of room for future Expansion and the Divisions can be re-aligned accordingly while protecting most rivalries!!

Kudos to you for thinking about the game. I'm not a fan of divisions in the NRL. I think it would have to be considered if you had a very large amount of teams in the competition.

To make the draw fairer, the only option would be to play each team once during the season, with all NRL games suspended during the Origin period. The problem with that is it gives less games to sell to the broadcaster. More teams in the competition would help lessen that problem.

 

[T-Boon]

The idea has merit. Anything that might increase crowds and ratings should be seriously considered. Rivalries increase meaning and increase crowds. We already have rivalries I guess but 4 team conferences do create bitter, savage rivalries in the US.
It is also arguably fairer in that each team within a division plays against exactly the same teams albeit at different times of the season.

 

[unforgiven]

The idea has merit. Anything that might increase crowds and ratings should be seriously considered. Rivalries increase meaning and increase crowds. We already have rivalries I guess but 4 team conferences do create bitter, savage rivalries in the US.
It is also arguably fairer in that each team within a division plays against exactly the same teams albeit at different times of the season.

How does fairness equate to a 3-19 win ratio possibly making the finals?

 

[siv]

I have a simple answer to this

Let QRL and NSWRL take back control

Dump the one grade elite competition

And let NSW and QLD NRL clubs go back and play in the NSW and QLD Cups

Then

We can have a NSW v QLD Super bowl in FG

Just like they do in RG U18s and U16s and will have next year in U20s

Expansion delema solved also

 

[POPEYE]

Just have each team play the other 15 once for the Shield and concoct whatever wankers/media want for the'finals'

 

[T-Boon]

How does fairness equate to a 3-19 win ratio possibly making the finals?

Because the 3/19 team that goes through has played against the same teams as the other teams in his division.

In the highly unlikely event that happened the outcome would suck but it wouldn't be all that clear who the victim is because which of the teams that came 3rd in their divisions has been duded? - you still came 3rd in your division. With the top 8 as we have it it is far more likely you would see the 8th team beat out the 9th team by 2 points on the back of playing Newcastle twice as against Melbourne twice in which case you know exactly who the victim is that has been duded.

 

[Manurewa_Marlins]

Look at the shitshow its created in Super Rugby, because there's simply not enough depth to warrent it. You could devise a draw to cater for the travel costs/times without compromising the integrity of the league.