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Nielsen gone

Twizzle

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its his position that is gone, he can reapply for the head coach/selector's roll

they are making everyone accountable so the captain of each team and the head coach is also a selector of that team
 

hineyrulz

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Tuggers to busy ATM, damn shame because he is exactly what australian cricket
Needs ATM.
 

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Andrew Hilditch, Tim Nielsen no longer needed by Cricket Australia

Malcolm Conn
From: News Limited newspapers
August 19, 2011 3:23PM


Andrew Hilditch is now out of a job with Cricket Australia. The Advertiser

ANDREW Hilditch’s controversial tenure as Australia’s chairman of selectors is over and Tim Nielsen must reapply for the Australian coaching role after the long-awaited Argus Review into Australian cricket was handed down today.

Cricket Australia chairman Jack Clarke confirmed at a press conference in Melbourne that wide-ranging structural changes will be implemented at Cricket Australia. Among those is the introduction of a five-man selection panel – including a fulltime chairman, two independents, the captain and coach – as well as a newly created position of General Manager of team performance, who will be responsible for coaching, selection and the Centre of Excellence.

Don Argus, the former chairman of BHP Billiton and Brambles, conducted the review, which has been touted as the most comprehensive in Australian cricket history. Argus interviewed more than 60 people involved in Australian cricket before presenting his findings to the CA board yesterday.

“A system that once worked is now in need of change,” Clarke said. “We’re not looking for scapegoats.”

Hilditch and Chappell will no longer be selectors under the new structure, although Chappell will for now continue in his role of national talent manager. Australian captain Michael Clarke and Nielsen will join the selection panel for the tour of Sri Lanka, although Nielsen will be under intense pressure to retain his position as head coach in the long-term.

Hilditch, who runs an Adelaide legal practice, will be unable to fill the role of chairman of selectors, which will now be a fulltime position, while there is no accommodation for Chappell to perform his current duel roles of fulltime selector and national talent manager.

Nielsen’s future as Australia’s coach is also in doubt, after he was forced to reapply for the redefined role.

“We need to align the coaching so there is one philosophy that the head coach is able to articulate,” said Cricket Australia chief executive James Sutherland. “Tim can apply for the job and he may well get the job but it’s a different role under the restructure.

“Quite clearly the report talks about new structures that are in place. We need to deliver a very strong performance and accountability culture within the team. There’s no reason why that can’t be Tim Nielsen.”

Both Clarke and Sutherland conceded Cricket Australia had made mistakes in the years that directly proceeded the national team’s era of dominance.

“It’s a harsh review,” Sutherland said. “It’s something we need to face up to and will face up to.

“None of us like or enjoy not being No. 1. We need clear structures and accountabilities to get us back on top as soon as possible.”

On a lighter note, Argus revealed he had been contacted by an English colleague who cheekily offered to provide input into the report “now that we’re the No. 1 team in the world.”

“I said, ‘What, get a Zimbabwean coach and four South Africans into the side?,” he quipped.

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I wouldn't rule out a South African coach, Mickey Arthur?
the guy has success here too, he was at the helm when South Africa last toured here and gave Australia their first series defeat on home soil in 17 years.

He also has proven success as a national coach helping Saffas to world number one ranking
 

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New Zealand have that

I know they rarely play internationals, and aren't a great example of anything but Vettori became captain and selector a while ago. I assume whoever replaces him will have the same job.
 

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Clarke is selector and captain with immediate effect and Neilsen is a selector with immediate effect too, despite no guarantee over him keeping his job after this tour. Lalala
 

hineyrulz

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So we have the new untried and untested captain now with the extra pressure of help selecting the side?? And a Nuffie like Neilsen having any sort of say??? :crazy: Don't agree with that decsion at all. Captains should captainmCoaches should coach and selectors should select.
 

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Punter was just about a selector, he had a big say in selections
Having a say and being a selector are two different things. Bit hard to have total faith in your captain when you know he was the guy that didn't pick you last test match or tour etc etc. It's just a burden a new captain of a struggling side doesn't need.
 

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the way it was explained is that they want to make the captains accountable, so if you take on the roll you know you will be a selector

Punter had his pets and we all know he was responsible for them being in the team

personally I dont see that much has changes, its just been formalised
 

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Dont like the idea of the captain being a selector. Has a great possibilty of causing issues within the team imo.

As a captain responsible for his/her teams performance you'd want to have a big say in who's in and who's out. But I agree being an official selector could lead to disharmony. Catch 22 really. You'd need to be a strong Captain to deal with it, but who wants a weak Captain?
 

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I wouldn't rule out a South African coach, Mickey Arthur?
the guy has success here too, he was at the helm when South Africa last toured here and gave Australia their first series defeat on home soil in 17 years.

He also has proven success as a national coach helping Saffas to world number one ranking
South Africa's most successful mentor, Mickey Arthur, says he'd consider Australia's head coach role




Australia have the ideal opportunity to become the best Test nation again by following the lead of India and England and appointing an African coach.

South Africa's most successful mentor, Mickey Arthur, is the ideal candidate to fill the new, expanded head-coaching role recommended in the sweeping Argus review delivered on Friday.
Now coach of Western Australia, Arthur made it clear that he would consider the position and has ambitions to return to international cricket.
"Yes, I would be foolish not be interested, but at the moment my priority is Western Australia," Arthur said.
"I have ambitions to continue coaching at international, however I have unfinished business here (in WA)."
Another interested party is dual World Cup winner and former Sri Lanka coach Tom Moody.
"I'd be very interested in looking to see where I could fit in, if at all," Moody told Fox Sports.
"I have certainly made no decisions personally on what I'm going to do."
Tim Nielsen has been told to reapply for his position despite being awarded a three-year contract before last summer's Ashes debacle.
Nielsen will continue as coach on the current tour of Sri Lanka and has become a selector, along with captain Michael Clarke, as part of a revamped five-man panel.
However, Nielsen's tenure may be short-lived, with review chairman Don Argus recommending that a new coach, general manager of team performance and full-time chairman of selectors be put in place before the South African tour.
Australia will play two Twenty20 matches, three one-day games and two Tests in South Africa from mid-October to late November.
Given Arthur's deep knowledge of South Africa's players and conditions that would appear an ideal place for him to start.
India became the No. 1 Test nation under South Africa's Gary Kirsten for almost two years and nowEngland are top dog with Zimbabwean Andy Flower at the helm.
South Africa were in worse shape than Australia when Arthur took over as coach in 2005. Ranked fifth in Test cricket and sixth in the one-day game, Arthur took the Proteas to No.1 in both forms of the game.
His demeanour as a genial man with a big smile hides the steely resolve of someone prepared to make tough decisions and give players an honest assessment, no matter how brutal it may be.
There is a feeling within the Australian cricket hierarchy that Nielsen has not been tough enough at times.
It is also telling that Michael Clarke's first coach at NSW, Steve Rixon, who also coached New Zealand, has come on board under the new captain's regime.
While it may seem odd on the surface to appoint a former wicket-keeper as fielding coach, Rixon's expertise will be invaluable around a team still in transition.
Arthur's strength is best highlighted by his decision to sack fast bowler Makhaya Ntini after his long career began to fade.
Already forced to walk through a minefield in the politically difficult South Africa, the dumping of Ntini created a maelstrom for Arthur when the paceman claimed racial discrimination.
Australia have never had an overseas coach.
The position was created in the mid-1980s and first held by Bobby Simpson before being filled by Geoff Marsh, John Buchanan and now Nielsen.
However, other countries have looked elsewhere for some time. Steve Rixon, Geoff Marsh, Greg Chappell, Geoff Lawson, Dav Whatmore, John Dyson, Tom Moody, Trevor Bayliss, Jamie Siddons and Stuart Law are among Australians who have coached overseas.





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