Nightingale its time.

Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by John moz, May 6, 2018.

  1. dragonssamy61

    dragonssamy61 First Grade

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    Agree dq
    I have been told that JD is gone as well as Bennett next year.
    If no bellamy then as you have said walters.
     
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  2. RufusRex

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    so … Mann in for Nightingale …

    Mann concedes one try from a kick - just out jumped .. have seen Nighty miss these but it is still a cross against him.

    No other tries conceded in the corner .. Elliot scores from a bad miss by Frizell.

    Definitely not perfect though.

    As far as metres - Mann made 136 from 15 runs which is a touch higher than Nighty's average though you probably need a few more games to get a trend.

    Did we lose anything by not having nightingale out there … probably not.
    Was Mann amazingly better than nighty … again probably not.

    Nighty didn't play the full game and the sky didn't fall in so that is a step in the right direction … I wonder if Lomax would have been given the job if he were fit.

    Anyway - coach is finally recognising the truth of the matter which is positive.
     
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    Not sure if the Dogs are just shit slow but they didn’t really try to go around us.

    We were flimsy up the middle so I’m wondering if defensively we spread wider?

    Whatever the case, there was plenty of holes up the middle where Jackson headed all night. Those gaps weren’t there at the start of the year.
     
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    fatigued middles and edge forwards - who would have thought that could happen again .. I mean it wasn't as if it didn't happen in 2017 and 2016 and 2015 … sigh
     
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  5. Drag Queen

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    I've got a feeling that Bellamy is going to stay put. However, I don't want to put the Mickeylane mocker on this prediction.
     
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    Mann's missed catch for the Morris try was poor, but you're right, there's no guarantees that Nighty takes that - there's few who can leap like Morris.

    There were 2 instances, however, where Mann was able to hold the defensive line and stay on his winger and was quick enough to turn and chase the grubber behind, retrieve it AND get out of the in goal. Put 2018 Nighty in there and Dogs get a repeat set at best, try at worst.
     
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    When he did get out he knocked on in the play the ball.. the next set we defended well but then Aitken knocked on and they scored. If that was a Nighty error no one would’ve forgotten.

    Overall I do think he deserves his shot though - interesting this week his been named on the left wing, not outside Aitken
     
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    It was Aitken who lost it in the play the ball.
    Not a top shelf game and I still think we should be focusing our efforts of Herbert or Lomax for the wing though.
     
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    Kurt Mann got out of the in goal, no way Nightingale would have been able to do that.
     
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    I'm still frustrated about Lomax's injury. The poor kid would have been running out for us last week and this week if it wasn't for that and Mann would have kept his bench spot.
     
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    No chance. Mary won’t drop Flo entirely.
     
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    With Mann playing wing and Nighty on the bench I don’t see Lomax getting onto the bench this season. Has McIdiot penciled Mann as the replacement for Nighty next season.
     
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    Poor LINESPEED from tiring forwards?

    And the remedy for that is a 4 forward bench rotation to reduce fatigue - now that Nighty's been tapped.

    Eventually Lomax & Herbert in the backs as well - & maybe Aitken on the bench.

    Lafai is surplus
     
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    That won't happen.
    Those players are outside of the 16 being currently used. That would definitely confuse the coach.
     
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    Hard to say given Lomax is injured. The question is would Mann have played or Lomax and who would’ve been on the bench.
     
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    You think so,Not sure L plate would have done this
     
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    Kurt Mann isn't even a winger's bootlace, he will get every kick sent his way from now on and he will remind the lot of you how he went at FB. He is utility value, nothing more and the wingers position in today's game is a specialist role and not for fill ins.
     
  18. RufusRex

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    Well Nightingale doesn't score that try tonight .. Mann does …
    Still think Lomax is the better option though … stoopid boxing practice.
     
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    PLAYERS' CHAMPION


    Jason Nightingale receives Dennis Tutty Award
    Author
    Margie McDonald Senior Reporter
    Timestamp
    Tue 11 Sep 2018, 09:20 PM

    Newcastle fullback Kalyn Ponga has created history by becoming the youngest winner of the RLPA Players' Champion.

    The 20-year-old Knights star received the peer-voted award at the Players' Champion presentation at Doltone House in Sydney on Tuesday night and it signals the changing of the guard in rugby league, according to RLPA chief executive Ian Prendergast.

    With premiership-winners and 300-game players of the calibre of Johnathan Thurston, Billy Slater, Luke Lewis, Sam Thaiday and Chris Heighington leaving the game, the younger brigade led by the likes of Ponga, Cameron Munster and Nathan Cleary are stepping up.

    The award began in 2004 to recognise excellence both on and off the field.

    It's been quite a season for Newcastle's goal-kicking fullback.

    In his 20 appearances for his new club, the former Cowboy produced six tries, 11 try assists, 12 line breaks and 140 tackle breaks. He also ran an average of 142 metres per game.

    Those kind of statistics earned him a maiden Holden State of Origin series call-up for Queensland, playing game two off the bench and producing an eye-catching display.

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    Knights fullback Kalyn Ponga. :copyright:Gregg Porteous/NRL Photos
    But his emergence alongside other rising talent comes at a poignant time in the NRL.

    "We have witnessed somewhat of a changing of the guard in 2018, with the emergence of young stars with plenty of character and a number of the game’s longest servants retiring," Prendergast said.

    Ponga edged out a few other youngs stars from the list of finalists that included Storm five-eighth Cameron Munster, 23, Warriors skipper Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, 25, Sharks flyer Valentine Holmes, 23, and Rabbitohs hooker Damien Cook, 27.

    Previous winners include James Tedesco (2017), Jason Taumalolo (2016), Danny Buderus (2004) and Johnathan Thurston (2005, 2013-15). Thurston always said that in his list of awards won, he considered the RLPA trophy "the highest individual accolade a player can receive".

    "It's incredible that at such a young age, Kalyn has already gained the recognition from his fellow players as the best performer in 2018," Prendergast said.

    "Despite the Knights not making it through to the finals this season, Kalyn continued to put in dominant performances throughout in his first-year at the club.

    "The RLPA membership have had their say and for a 20-year-old to be voted the best by his peers, it just shows what a prestigious talent the Newcastle custodian is.

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    "On behalf of the RLPA, I want to congratulate Kalyn and all other award recipients at tonight’s event."

    The RLPA provided more than 500 contracted NRL players with a list of 64 players (four from each club) in contention for the established Players' Champion award and the recently introduced Players' 13 Dream Team.

    The players voted for their champion picks on a 3-2-1 system based on their performance across the entire 2018 season.

    Players were unable to vote for their teammates, while no points were deducted for serving suspensions.

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    St George Illawarra Dragons star Jason Nightingale received the Dennis Tutty Award for 2018, recognising his contribution in the player wellbeing and education space.

    Tutty, a former Balmain, Penrith and Australian player, was on hand to present Nightingale with the honour.


    Australian Jillaroos star and captain of the Sydney Roosters WNRL side, Simaima Taufa, was recognised as the Elite Women’s Player of the Year for her strong World Cup campaign.


    North Queensland powerhouse Jason Taumalolo continued the rise of Tonga in the international arena, edging out finalists from Australia, Fiji, and Papua New Guinea to be named Representative Player of the Year.


    Perhaps one of the hottest contested awards of the night was Rookie of the Year, with Sydney Roosters hitman Victor Radley emerging with the most votes from his peers, ahead of Jamayne Isaako (Broncos), AJ Brimson (Titans), Rhyse Martin (Bulldogs) and Jesse Ramien (Sharks).



    The Players' Champion: Kalyn Ponga (Newcastle Knights)

    The Players' 13 Dream Team: Kalyn Ponga (Newcastle Knights), Valentine Holmes (Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks), Latrell Mitchell (Sydney Roosters), Esan Marsters (Wests Tigers), Jamayne Isaako (Brisbane Broncos), Cameron Munster (Melbourne Storm), Johnathan Thurston (North Queensland Cowboys), Andrew Fifita (Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks), Damien Cook (South Sydney Rabbitohs), Nelson Asofa-Solomona (Melbourne Storm), Viliame Kikau (Penrith Panthers), Tariq Sims (St George Illawarra Dragons), Jake Trbojevic (Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles)

    Rookie of the Year: Victor Radley (Sydney Roosters)

    Dennis Tutty Award: Jason Nightingale (St George Illawarra Dragons)

    Representative Player of the Year: Jason Taumalolo (Tonga)

    Elite Women's Player of the Year: Simaima Taufa (Australian Jillaroos)

    The '300 Club': Johnathan Thurston (North Queensland Cowboys), Simon Mannering (New Zealand Warriors), Sam Thaiday (Brisbane Broncos), John Sutton (South Sydney Rabbitohs), Billy Slater (Melbourne Storm)

    Indigenous Leadership & Excellence: Johnathan Thurston (North Queensland Cowboys)


    Pasifika Leadership & Excellence: Jason Nightingale (St George Illawarra Dragons)

    NRL Academic Player of the Year: Dale Copley (Gold Coast Titans)

    Women's Academic Player of the Year: Kody House (Brisbane Broncos)

    NRL Academic Team of the Year: Aiden Tolman (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs), Isaac Liu (Sydney Roosters), Jason Bukuya (Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks), Dunamis Lui (Canberra Raiders), Simon Mannering (New Zealand Warriors), Michael Morgan (North Queensland Cowboys), David Gower (Parramatta Eels), Korbin Sims (Brisbane Broncos), Ryley Jacks (Melbourne Storm), Cameron Murray (South Sydney Rabbitohs), Euan Aitken (St George Illawarra Dragons), Dale Copley (Gold Coast Titans), Kody House (Brisbane Broncos)



    https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2018/09/11/jason-nightingale-receives-dennis-tutty-award/
     
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