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Off the footy subject, watching a killer series on SBS, a Swedish thriller called Greyzone, so tense and modern and the Scandinavians know how to make these sort of tv series.

The Bridge etc, always keep an eye out for these late night thrillers and record them, they are special.
Cheers. It's on SBS on demand app too if you miss it. Been looking for a new Scandinavian series.
 

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Went to see Bohemian Rhapsody last night, probably the most enjoyable movie of the past 5 years. Don't miss it if you have the opportunity.

The actors playing the roles were so good, they perfected the mannerisms and actions that it was easy to believe they were Brian May and Freddie Mercury. It's without doubt a move you should see twice.
Surprised that they went to such an effort in your driveway.
 

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I know that this is breaking the internet right now and you've all probably seen it, but it needs to be archived for a the future. Evidence that many people who seek political appointment have chimp like intelligence.

 

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Because I searched that I now have videos of Mal meninga in my YouTube feed.

Just watched a 1991 interview with Magda Szubanskcvcvcvcvcvcxxxxxxccccvviiiii from Fast Forward. He isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed.
 

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'Fuddy-duddy' has the last laugh: Warren Buffett was right on Bitcoin all along

LIONEL LAURENT NOVEMBER 23, 2018

Bitcoin turns 10 this year, but there's not much to celebrate. Its price has tumbled to near $US4,000 ($5,500), down 30 per cent in a month, 50 per cent in six months and almost 80 per cent since December.

The crypto-currency experts, who clearly didn't see this coming, are blaming all sorts of temporary culprits – from jittery markets to "hard forks" (blockchain jargon for radical technical changes in a digital currency.) But they're kidding themselves. This is a long-term unraveling of all of the lies, exaggeration and populist fantasies that drove last year's market mania.

Bitcoin was meant to make all of its investors rich, something that held particular appeal to a millennial generation hungry for a financial boost in a world of crushing student debt, income inequality and low quality jobs.

It was meant to be free of Wall Street's corruption and the US government's meddling technocrats. It was meant to be secure, with a price that would go ever higher. For the hardcore evangelists, it would reward its acolytes when the inevitable financial apocalypse arrived. The dollar was destined for scrap.

And it was meant to show that we should all stop listening to fuddy-duddy "experts" like Jamie Dimon, Warren Buffett and Jack Bogle. The old closed ways of investing would be usurped by the buying power of the masses.

Unsurprisingly, none of this has come to pass. The Bitcoin bubble of 2017 – mercifully short and economically contained – has enriched only insiders such as mining companies and crypto-exchanges, and the early birds and tech elites who cashed in at the right time.

For the patsies who arrived late to the party, it has been a tool of financial impoverishment. About $US700 billion ($965 billion) has been wiped from the value of digital money since January. One Korean teacher told the New York Times in August: "I thought that crypto-currencies would be the one and only breakthrough for ordinary hard-working people like us."

Nothing on the Bitcoin label turned out to be in the bottle. As a means of payment, it is cumbersome, volatile and expensive. It has destroyed value rather than storing it. Its decentralised technology was sold to investors as being unique. It has been anything but.

Those "hard forks" have created numerous Bitcoin spin-offs over the past year, and the vested interests of those who make money from doing this – by shifting their own coin to the new spin-off, bringing the miners along and effectively taking control of the new currency – have triumphed over the dreams of a neutral blockchain system that would treat everybody equally.

Even the hedge fund folk, who thought they could use sophisticated options to bet on the boom while covering their downside, have been proven wrong in a market where prices and information flow are not transparent – and are often manipulated.

Of course, bubbles and crashes are a part of history. If regulators and journalists do their job of warning consumers of the risks – and they did with Bitcoin – then why shouldn't people be free to do what they like with their cash?

But while Bitcoin is on the ropes, it certainly hasn't gone away and global regulators still need to find an effective way to rein in the cowboys.

And while this hasn't been a systemic risk this time, the eventual spread of digital currencies will mean that isn't always the case. Finally, if the frustrations that drove people to chuck their savings at a virtual ponzi scheme aren't resolved, we're only setting ourselves up for bigger political trouble down the line.

Bloomberg

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/bu...ght-on-bitcoin-all-along-20181123-p50hsw.html
 

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'Fuddy-duddy' has the last laugh: Warren Buffett was right on Bitcoin all along

LIONEL LAURENT NOVEMBER 23, 2018

Bitcoin turns 10 this year, but there's not much to celebrate. Its price has tumbled to near $US4,000 ($5,500), down 30 per cent in a month, 50 per cent in six months and almost 80 per cent since December.

The crypto-currency experts, who clearly didn't see this coming, are blaming all sorts of temporary culprits – from jittery markets to "hard forks" (blockchain jargon for radical technical changes in a digital currency.) But they're kidding themselves. This is a long-term unraveling of all of the lies, exaggeration and populist fantasies that drove last year's market mania.

Bitcoin was meant to make all of its investors rich, something that held particular appeal to a millennial generation hungry for a financial boost in a world of crushing student debt, income inequality and low quality jobs.

It was meant to be free of Wall Street's corruption and the US government's meddling technocrats. It was meant to be secure, with a price that would go ever higher. For the hardcore evangelists, it would reward its acolytes when the inevitable financial apocalypse arrived. The dollar was destined for scrap.

And it was meant to show that we should all stop listening to fuddy-duddy "experts" like Jamie Dimon, Warren Buffett and Jack Bogle. The old closed ways of investing would be usurped by the buying power of the masses.

Unsurprisingly, none of this has come to pass. The Bitcoin bubble of 2017 – mercifully short and economically contained – has enriched only insiders such as mining companies and crypto-exchanges, and the early birds and tech elites who cashed in at the right time.

For the patsies who arrived late to the party, it has been a tool of financial impoverishment. About $US700 billion ($965 billion) has been wiped from the value of digital money since January. One Korean teacher told the New York Times in August: "I thought that crypto-currencies would be the one and only breakthrough for ordinary hard-working people like us."

Nothing on the Bitcoin label turned out to be in the bottle. As a means of payment, it is cumbersome, volatile and expensive. It has destroyed value rather than storing it. Its decentralised technology was sold to investors as being unique. It has been anything but.

Those "hard forks" have created numerous Bitcoin spin-offs over the past year, and the vested interests of those who make money from doing this – by shifting their own coin to the new spin-off, bringing the miners along and effectively taking control of the new currency – have triumphed over the dreams of a neutral blockchain system that would treat everybody equally.

Even the hedge fund folk, who thought they could use sophisticated options to bet on the boom while covering their downside, have been proven wrong in a market where prices and information flow are not transparent – and are often manipulated.

Of course, bubbles and crashes are a part of history. If regulators and journalists do their job of warning consumers of the risks – and they did with Bitcoin – then why shouldn't people be free to do what they like with their cash?

But while Bitcoin is on the ropes, it certainly hasn't gone away and global regulators still need to find an effective way to rein in the cowboys.

And while this hasn't been a systemic risk this time, the eventual spread of digital currencies will mean that isn't always the case. Finally, if the frustrations that drove people to chuck their savings at a virtual ponzi scheme aren't resolved, we're only setting ourselves up for bigger political trouble down the line.

Bloomberg

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/bu...ght-on-bitcoin-all-along-20181123-p50hsw.html

The upside of the Bitcoin saga is that the worlds biggest wanker will soon be dining on dick.

 

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Here's some sauce for you McAfee.

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The upside of the Bitcoin saga is that the worlds biggest wanker will soon be dining on dick.

For a moment I thought you were talking about me.

Bitcoin will not die. It will end up being a store of value and everything will be pegged to it like the US$. So whichever virtual currency is adopted on the blockchain it must be pegged to something or it will be too inflationary and what better coin than the original and best.

Unlike other virtual currencies you cannot close bitcoin down because along with Monero it is completely decentralized and you cannot eliminate it. Who do you go after ? Nobody knows who he is.

That is why it will survive despite it not being the best in a technological sense.
 

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For a moment I thought you were talking about me.

Bitcoin will not die. It will end up being a store of value and everything will be pegged to it like the US$. So whichever virtual currency is adopted on the blockchain it must be pegged to something or it will be too inflationary and what better coin than the original and best.

Unlike other virtual currencies you cannot close bitcoin down because along with Monero it is completely decentralized and you cannot eliminate it. Who do you go after ? Nobody knows who he is.

That is why it will survive despite it not being the best in a technological sense.

Yes virtual currencies have their place as a safehaven, but offer little when it comes to the original blockchain carrot.

The Au government commissioned a committee to investigate blockchain and they concluded that better technology exists already.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/...s/news-story/1c980376f1f5d365241246cce060624f

Where does that leave virtual currencies? At this point for the time being it will be used by organised crime and money laundering. Problem is that it will be need to be returned to a traditional currency eventually and I reckon interpol will be waiting for you.
 

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