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Non Footy Chat Thread II

Avenger

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Watched 60 minutes and I must say they finally had an interesting story about our failed education system and how the Finnish model is leading the world. They start their kids at age 7. Their teachers are well paid. Private schools are virtually non existent and their motto is that the best schools are the ones closest to you.

Public education is the norm. Kids don't have homework and there is no ranking, naplan myschool, atars etc.

Basically the kids are more rounded, have less depression and are more successful and most importantly happier adults with less anxiety.

I appreciate that Finland is different to Australia but they made some valid points.
 

phantom eel

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Agree Avenger. I find it crazy that governments of both sides have continued to pump more and more money into the private (and often religious) school system, instead of spending that same money in support of the public schools attended by 65% of our kids and catering to all shapes and sizes.

We've got a long way to go while the political power of voices supporting the minority educations systems outweigh the power of those voices supporting the needs of the many.
 

hindy111

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Yet they find without ranking kids they lack hunger and desire especially in sports.

Perhaps the key is one thing and its simple. Have good morals and treat people how you want to be treated no matter their background and skin color. Teach kids everyone is equal and help others when can.
Blaming school on depression and anxiety is not appreciating your own life but pointing the finger.

And at some point they will find the Finland system has floors. While 1000000s of people in world still die of starvation which western society feels isnt that big a problem cause we are all racist. Otherwise we all be sharing.
Instead we drink our lattes and enjoy our air cons and talk shit with friends over a beer.
 
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Agree Avenger. I find it crazy that governments of both sides have continued to pump more and more money into the private (and often religious) school system, instead of spending that same money in support of the public schools attended by 65% of our kids and catering to all shapes and sizes.

look at which schools they all attended and you will find the answer
 

Gronk

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I'm not going to get into the public vs private schools debate.

One thing that I can say is that where I live, the gov closed down all the public high schools. So it's forcing parents who want their kids to go to a local school to pay.

I have no idea about the numbers, but if the gov pays a private girls school on the hill $7m a year, I bet it costs far more than that to own, maintain/ update facilities and pay salaries for a public high school next door.

You only have to try and crunch the numbers on this staff list for Turramurra High School as an example. Imagine what the salary budget is for 100+ staff.

http://www.turramurrahighschool.com.au/media/turramurrahighschool/content/2017 Staff Listings Emails V1.pdf

From SMH May 16 2016

"On average, total government funding for a student going to a public school is over $16,000 per year, while the support for a student attending an non-government school is $9,300 – more than 40 per cent less."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...of-public-schools-report-20160515-govnmt.html
 
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Gary Gutful

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Hopefully the vote from that demographic gets spread a little more thinly.

Having said that I expect Hanson to be a major political force in QLD after the state elections later in the year.
 

Avenger

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I've realised I'm a left wing Liberal and not as right as I thought. Therefore I will not be as upset with Gronk's posts or Gary using a cock shaped bong.
 

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