Non Footy Chat Thread II

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Do you think I'm on to something or was it already mentioned in the Da Vinci Code ?

Yeh, there's actually a statue of a Mulloway in the Temple Church

 

[Bazal]

So because it was recorded later it must have been made up?

Pretty much, yeah. Sorry. Corinthians mentions it in passing. The oldest gospel doesn't mention him appearing after his resurrection, that was added to later gospels but Mark makes no mention of it. The women find an empty tomb, presume for some reason that the bloke who tells them he has risen is telling the truth. That's it, story over. More than likely the other Gospels embellished Mark's account to reinforce his supposed holiness. It's a story designed to portray him as holier than normal.

You don't reckon a bloke coming back from the dead would create a stir? It doesn't make sense that there is no mention of it in contemporary texts at the time. It's nonsense to think that it wouldn't be recorded, honestly.

Mark also doesn't mention anything about a virgin birth IIRC.

None of this means that he didn't exist. There is lots of evidence that he did, the same way Muhammed did. But he was a bloke who wanted to change the world.

 

[Bazal]

Because he didn't deal with the Romans. He went straight to North America: https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm?lang=eng

 

[Bazal]

Yeh, there's actually a statue of a Mulloway in the Temple Church

That's just a trophy, mate. The Abbott was a keen fisherman

 

[Avenger]

None of this means that he didn't exist. There is lots of evidence that he did, the same way Muhammed did. But he was a bloke who wanted to change the world.

So did Jesus. Also Christ wasn't a war mongering paedophile like the false prophet. Christ performed many miracles, you will say it's bullshit. I think it's real. He was revered for the 33 years whilst he was on Earth and in this modern world, many people smarter than you and I still believe in him and his teachings.


John 14:6

"I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

 

[Bazal]

So did Jesus.

Yes, that's what I said....

You want to believe he's a supernatural being, I can't stop you and I don't begrudge you. I simply need proof of fantastic claims and that proof doesn't exist.

 

[Avenger]

Yes, that's what I said....

You want to believe he's a supernatural being, I can't stop you and I don't begrudge you. I simply need proof of fantastic claims and that proof doesn't exist.

To you, it doesn't.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

My first major doubt about Christianity was that of all the religions throughout time, I just happened to be born into the right one? I'm not that lucky, as you know.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You don't reckon a bloke coming back from the dead would create a stir?

Looking at the last two thousand years, it's pretty fair to say he created a stir. IMO it could only be supernatural forces that made such a confusing and haphazard story as influential as it has been. It was a genuine black swan event.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Looking at the last two thousand years, it's pretty fair to say he created a stir. IMO it could only be supernatural forces that made such a confusing and haphazard story as influential as it has been. It was a genuine black swan event.

Muhammad also?

 

[Avenger]

Looking at the last two thousand years, it's pretty fair to say he created a stir. IMO it could only be supernatural forces that made such a confusing and haphazard story as influential as it has been. It was a genuine black swan event.

Hahaha, God bless you, Pou.

 

[Bazal]

Looking at the last two thousand years, it's pretty fair to say he created a stir. IMO it could only be supernatural forces that made such a confusing and haphazard story as influential as it has been. It was a genuine black swan event.

So I suppose the gods that have been around even longer are even more powerful supernatural forces, correct? After all, if one must be supernatural because of it's influence, the rest must be too

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Hey look at that... Barry was already talking to other Barry in season one.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Muhammad also?

Obviously. No coincidence they are part of the same mythology.

 

[Bazal]

Hey look at that... Barry was already talking to other Barry in season one.

Yes he was other Barry. Yes he was

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So I suppose the gods that have been around even longer are even more powerful supernatural forces, correct? After all, if one must be supernatural because of it's influence, the rest must be too

Are you trying to trip me up with some dumb Twitteresque pop-theology argument? I believe all manifestations of deity have had some truth behind them. Ideas don't come from nowhere, especially when they are capable of motivating large numbers of people.

 

[Bazal]

Are you trying to trip me up with some dumb Twitteresque pop-theology argument? I believe all manifestations of deity have had some truth behind them. Ideas don't come from nowhere, especially when they are capable of motivating large numbers of people.

No it was a genuine question. I find it immensely stupid when people accept that their god and all his or her ridiculous deeds are fact with nothing but hearsay written by men with agendas as "proof" but claim that exactly the same kind of thing with a different main character is false and will damn someone to hell or whatever.

Atheists simply believe in one less god than most. Well, apart from polytheists, I suppose.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Yeh, there's actually a statue of a Mulloway in the Temple Church

Is that why they have those fish stickers?

I remember sticking one of those on the rear window of my family's Kingswood, when I was about seven, with my Dad . It was only when I'd stuck it down he told me it was upside down. Not in a pissed off way, he could've stopped me.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No it was a genuine question. I find it immensely stupid when people accept that their god and all his or her ridiculous deeds are fact with nothing but hearsay written by men with agendas as "proof" but claim that exactly the same kind of thing with a different main character is false and will damn someone to hell or whatever.

Yet you entertain the idea that I would share that belief? Thanks for f**king nothing.

Atheists simply believe in one less god than most. Well, apart from polytheists, I suppose.

Except every religion has its pantheon of 'gods'. Dozens of them are mentioned in the Bible. Their existence isn't denied, just their authority.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Malcolm in the middle was a good show.