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Non Footy Chat Thread II

phantom eel

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Lot of uneducated f**kers even on here don't know the definition of a burka, so she's sure dog whistling to the right ignorant target market...
 

Gronk

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I agree with Pou to be honest. There would be 2 very different worlds that people live in.

In the East you get the people who can afford to live there and are generally better educated and driven to succeed for a better life.

Then you have the people in the west where they may not be as educated and treat life completely differently with different motives.

It would be very hard for people like Gronk to understand this.
Middle class merkin claims that another middle class merkin is out of touch bc (apparently) he lives in a better house than him. Hmmm.
 

Gary Gutful

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Middle class merkin claims that another middle class merkin is out of touch bc (apparently) he lives in a better house than him. Hmmm.
I think it is reasonable suggestion to make. If it doesn't apply to you it definitely applies to others.

I know my attitudes towards some issues would be different if I was living in a shitty part of town and I was confronted with a lot more harsh realities.

Its why I try not to get on my soapbox about certain 'injustices' when the only injustices I face are that someone booked my favourite tee time or a beer that was advertised as being on tap has run out before I got to drink it.

[The second one in particular really f**ks me off...]
 

Kornstar

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Middle class merkin claims that another middle class merkin is out of touch bc (apparently) he lives in a better house than him. Hmmm.

It has everything to do with where you live. Whether you live in the East because you inherited a house or worked your ringer off the fact that you live there and i dare say never venture to much less desirable suburbs is the reason why i take your view much less seriously.

Ultimately it is much easier for you to be tolerant when you don't deal with certain issues that others face.

I would also like to point out that there absolutely needs to be more tolerance and there are way too many overreactions and just being a racist moron because someone looks different to you doesn't help any situation. That is also part of multicultural societies that is less discussed or addressed.
 

Gronk

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FMD buying Mr Burn's house has really trashed my street cred.

Release the hounds....

200.webp
 

Gronk

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It has everything to do with where you live. Whether you live in the East because you inherited a house or worked your ringer off the fact that you live there and i dare say never venture to much less desirable suburbs is the reason why i take your view much less seriously.

Ultimately it is much easier for you to be tolerant when you don't deal with certain issues that others face.

I would also like to point out that there absolutely needs to be more tolerance and there are way too many overreactions and just being a racist moron because someone looks different to you doesn't help any situation. That is also part of multicultural societies that is less discussed or addressed.

Ok let's run with this.
Kornstar said:
Ultimately it is much easier for you to be tolerant when you don't deal with certain issues that others face.
What certain issues do you have to deal with that makes you intolerant ?
 

Kornstar

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Ok let's run with this. What certain issues do you have to deal with that makes you intolerant ?

I can tell you now that i have a very different view than i did when i was younger and lived in South West Sydney.

Me back when i lived in Fairfield witnessed the asian gangs and what they did to friends so back then i was very anti-asian. I was probably 15 or so. That didn't last long though as i had plenty of asian friends and realised that as long as you didn't cross them (gangs) they didn't give a shit about you.

Then the birth of the middle eastern migration to Fairfield and the complete racist attitude they had towards us and the threats of violence (and actual violence) just for being skippy scum. So my opinion was also anti middle eastern. These guys just hated us and this country.

That was then when i lived it.

I no longer live near Fairfield (or Smithfield where i owned my first home) and experienced its multiculturalism in full effect and it was completely unpleasant after the middle easterners took over for a white person to be there. I would still get threats even when i was in my late 20's.

I now live in north west and in a much nicer suburb that is also very multicultural but it costs a fair bit to live in and my opinion here is completely different. I can walk the streets at 10 or 11 o'clock at night (and i do) without feeling any fear, whereas in Fairfield you would get cars stopping and things thrown at you like bottles (yep, 100% happened several times) or they'd threaten to rape your wife or kill my dog.......just pleasant stuff like that.

So for me i have experienced both sides and can sympathise with the negative sides that live and breath shit everyday that multiculturalism brings in certain areas.

I am probably racist at times just like every other f**ker out there no mater how many soap boxes they stand on because in weak and heated moments we say things that a more level headed you wouldn't say or really thinks. At least i can admit it though.........i know truly racist people who actually hate people because the colour of their skin and i can't say i care for it.

I truly believe that if you are a dickhead, then the colour of your skin is irrelevant. Just because a large group of your race may be dickheads, doesn't mean one is racist, you are just speaking facts. Same as a large group of white people are dickheads.......see Charlottesville for evidence of this.

I would also like to add that the government and law makers do not help matters. Are there any police officers on here? I remember a few years ago a friend was down in the academy and he had some study material and i was reading through it. The law for Aboriginals and then everyone else was rather shocking.

If you want to create division, that is certainly the way to do it. That is not a racist view from me because i certainly am disgusted with the way we treated aboriginals in the past and white men really do make me feel physically ill and i understand why we need to show compassion. It just seems so odd that we want to treat certain people equal but then we do everything we can to treat them differently........

Anyways, i'll await the posts about how racist i am..........
 

Gary Gutful

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I can tell you now that i have a very different view than i did when i was younger and lived in South West Sydney.

Me back when i lived in Fairfield witnessed the asian gangs and what they did to friends so back then i was very anti-asian. I was probably 15 or so. That didn't last long though as i had plenty of asian friends and realised that as long as you didn't cross them (gangs) they didn't give a shit about you.

Then the birth of the middle eastern migration to Fairfield and the complete racist attitude they had towards us and the threats of violence (and actual violence) just for being skippy scum. So my opinion was also anti middle eastern. These guys just hated us and this country.

That was then when i lived it.

I no longer live near Fairfield (or Smithfield where i owned my first home) and experienced its multiculturalism in full effect and it was completely unpleasant after the middle easterners took over for a white person to be there. I would still get threats even when i was in my late 20's.

I now live in north west and in a much nicer suburb that is also very multicultural but it costs a fair bit to live in and my opinion here is completely different. I can walk the streets at 10 or 11 o'clock at night (and i do) without feeling any fear, whereas in Fairfield you would get cars stopping and things thrown at you like bottles (yep, 100% happened several times) or they'd threaten to rape your wife or kill my dog.......just pleasant stuff like that.

So for me i have experienced both sides and can sympathise with the negative sides that live and breath shit everyday that multiculturalism brings in certain areas.

I am probably racist at times just like every other f**ker out there no mater how many soap boxes they stand on because in weak and heated moments we say things that a more level headed you wouldn't say or really thinks. At least i can admit it though.........i know truly racist people who actually hate people because the colour of their skin and i can't say i care for it.

I truly believe that if you are a dickhead, then the colour of your skin is irrelevant. Just because a large group of your race may be dickheads, doesn't mean one is racist, you are just speaking facts. Same as a large group of white people are dickheads.......see Charlottesville for evidence of this.

I would also like to add that the government and law makers do not help matters. Are there any police officers on here? I remember a few years ago a friend was down in the academy and he had some study material and i was reading through it. The law for Aboriginals and then everyone else was rather shocking.

If you want to create division, that is certainly the way to do it. That is not a racist view from me because i certainly am disgusted with the way we treated aboriginals in the past and white men really do make me feel physically ill and i understand why we need to show compassion. It just seems so odd that we want to treat certain people equal but then we do everything we can to treat them differently........

Anyways, i'll await the posts about how racist i am..........
Great post mate.

The best thing my parents ever did for me and my sister was move out of Western Sydney to Northern NSW before I went to high school. I reckon I'd be a much different person if they didn't.
 
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So not one is forced to wear one? You've talked to all of them? Sure some wear them voluntarily but a lot also do not. Don't play the "everyone is racist" card like normal.

In no way does it have to do with indoctrination. The "voluntary" aspect of the burqa is in no way ingrained into these women before they can think for themselves. And they can "definitely" stop wearing it without any family/community ramifications.

To say otherwise is Fake News.
 

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