Now Puletua wants out of the Titans?

[Iafeta]

Nothing sh!ts me more than renegging on agreements or promises.

I hate it when club's do it to players without reasonable cause. I hate it when players feel they are entitled to leave early without reasonable cause.

The fact is, these blokes all made their intentions clear and procreated agreements. Honour them boys - stop being such pussies.

 

[Alex28]

These idiots should think before putting pen to paper.

Er...thats if they have actually put pen to paper ;-)

More to the point is, what on earth is going on with Titans Management? What sort of manager doesn't worry too much about the actual contracts being signed?

If they pushed for prompt signing of contracts they wouldn't have the problems that they have now. Rediculous...

 

[Dragons Cross]

It's beginning already, why the NRL let the Titans in ahead of a Central Coast team I'll never know. They already reek of the Chargers/Seagulls etc etc.

 

[Iafeta]

Er...thats if they have actually put pen to paper ;-)

More to the point is, what on earth is going on with Titans Management? What sort of manager doesn't worry too much about the actual contracts being signed?

If they pushed for prompt signing of contracts they wouldn't have the problems that they have now. Rediculous...

Is there something with McDonalds? Red Rooster? KFC? Taxi companies? Woolworths? Aldi? BP? Mobil?

All of whom you enter into contracts with without signature.

Nope. Didn't think so. Contracts don't have to be written, and certainly don't need signatures. It's a cop out from people who either really don't understand contractual law or people who are really hopeful of Turner staying with Melbourne.

 

[Alex28]

What a sh*t comparison...we aren't talking about a hamburger or a tank of fuel...

I work for a Bank. When someone says "I didn't agree to that" - I pull out the contract that the signed and say "yes you did - here is where you signed the document agreeing to it".

Surely a verbal agreement can be challenged - Did the player agree to every single point of the contract verbally? Was he read the entire contents of his contract when he agreed to playing for them? It can't be as easy as "$250K a year to play for us" "Sure - no problems" and that being legally binding.

If Searle was a half decent manager, he'd have a contract signed so when Turner or Puletua or Carney or whoever want to pull out, he can say "Here is where you signed agreeing to play for us" and there wouldn't be all this ambiguity that there is now...

 

[raiders fan forever]

what the hell is happening

 

[roosters06]

What a sh*t comparison...we aren't talking about a hamburger or a tank of fuel...

I work for a Bank. When someone says "I didn't agree to that" - I pull out the contract that the signed and say "yes you did - here is where you signed the document agreeing to it".

Surely a verbal agreement can be challenged - Did the player agree to every single point of the contract verbally? Was he read the entire contents of his contract when he agreed to playing for them? It can't be as easy as "$250K a year to play for us" "Sure - no problems" and that being legally binding.

If Searle was a half decent manager, he'd have a contract signed so when Turner or Puletua or Carney or whoever want to pull out, he can say "Here is where you signed agreeing to play for us" and there wouldn't be all this ambiguity that there is now...

Contracts can be verbal.

I never signed a contract for the company i work for, but i gave my word that i would work for them for the award rate, for 3 years - i don't go around reneging on that contract saying "oh, but i never signed anything"

If a man is not true to his word, he is not really a man.

 

[Iafeta]

What a sh*t comparison...we aren't talking about a hamburger or a tank of fuel...

I work for a Bank. When someone says "I didn't agree to that" - I pull out the contract that the signed and say "yes you did - here is where you signed the document agreeing to it".

Surely a verbal agreement can be challenged - Did the player agree to every single point of the contract verbally? Was he read the entire contents of his contract when he agreed to playing for them? It can't be as easy as "$250K a year to play for us" "Sure - no problems" and that being legally binding.

If Searle was a half decent manager, he'd have a contract signed so when Turner or Puletua or Carney or whoever want to pull out, he can say "Here is where you signed agreeing to play for us" and there wouldn't be all this ambiguity that there is now...

How is it a bad comparison?

A contract is an agreement - that's it. An agreement. You enter an agreement to buy a Big Mac don't you? Or do you not? Do you, or do you not? That's the question. Quite simple really. You enter a legally binding agreement to accept the conditions of purchase, or enter into a contract.

A written contract only sets out the terms of that contract, and is only further back up.

Most large scale agreements set out written contracts as a back-up to the agreement made. It holds power especially in court.

However, there is no doubt entering a contract can be verbal, nonetheless. Emailing confirmation of agreement through an authorised representative, and being quoted in the media announcing you have agreed to join the club are evidence of a contract being entered into and would hold up in court.

Sh!t comparison, or not.

 

[Sanchez]

i hope the titans honour all the contracts

 

[El Diablo]

i hope the titans honour all the contracts

like the Storm do?

 

[Roy Rover]

They must have spoken to the Cowboy's players and are dreading Billy Johnstone's training methods.

 

[parra pete]

I wish the Titans had signed Jamie Lyon....The patron saint of walking...
(P S If they don't honour contracts, get them into court......)

 

[roosters06]

like the Storm do?

the Storm management should be ashamed of themselves. They knew that Turner had made a verbal agreement with the Titans - it was all over the press. The blatantly and underhandedly tried to steal Turner back.

Pretty low act really, and the Storm management should hang their heads in shame.

 

[Willow]

Er...thats if they have actually put pen to paper ;-)

More to the point is, what on earth is going on with Titans Management? What sort of manager doesn't worry too much about the actual contracts being signed?

If they pushed for prompt signing of contracts they wouldn't have the problems that they have now. Rediculous...

According to reports, Puletua did sign a contract.

Puletua indicated he is keen to remain in Penrith for family reasons, despite the fact he signed a two-year contract with the Titans.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Titans-play-hardball-for-Turner-Puletua/2006/08/18/1155408014469.html
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport...-Turner-Puletua/2006/08/18/1155408014469.html

 

[cainen]

It's Penrith's stupid fault Puletua is going in the first place. They told him he wasn't part of next year's plans so let him negotiate with other clubs early. Now they haven't signed anybody and they want him back. Penrith's ineptitude strikes again :evil:

 

[Ice777]

the Storm management should be ashamed of themselves. They knew that Turner had made a verbal agreement with the Titans - it was all over the press. The blatantly and underhandedly tried to steal Turner back.

Pretty low act really, and the Storm management should hang their heads in shame.

What? You don't think the Rorters would've done exactly the same thing as the Storm? If you think they wouldn't you've gotta stop living in fairyland and get back to the real world :crazy:

 

[Timmah]

Good to see the Chargers coming back ;-)

 

[Willow]

On the contrary Timmer, I think the Chargers of old would have handled matters in a less commanding manner. I wonder if the Storm would be trying to use the same tricks on the established clubs, and how much these recents events are due to past perceptions. The Titans are being put to the test and I'm impressed with the way they are responding.

But regarding the subject matter and Puletua, the Titans have said they will talk to him and explore the family reasons. According to news reports, Puletua 'reconsidered his position after his wife secured a plum events management position'.

I don't know about you, but I don't think that qualifies as being grounds for compassion.

In addition, the Panthers have said they would be happy to keep Puletua, 'but only if he could secure a release from the Titans'.

On the surface, it looks like it is being handled well by both sides and Puletua is merely asking the question.

 

[sunny]

Frank Puletua is a star? :lol:

 

[richie8u]

he will be the panther "STAR SIGNING"!!!!!
Panthers management are the 2nd worst or maybe 3rd now, Titans are giving us a run now