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hineyrulz

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It is both before and after his time at the Heat.

Without Krause and Jackson there is no Bulls dynasty. Jordan didn't do it on his own.
Never said he did, but Jordan stayed at the Bulls and help build a dynasty. LeBronksy had to join a super team he ever built anything. He's an all time great and probably the best athlete to play the game but he's no GOAT. He also plays in the all time softest era i wonder how he would of coped against the Bad Boy Pistons and Jordan Rules. Not well i imagine.
 

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Pippen is one of the greatest ever players in the game. Not a bad guy to have as your backup.

Anyway, I happen to think Jordan is the GOAT. Just providing some perspective.
Pip is ridiculously underrated IMO, but to say that Jordan played with stacked teams his whole career is also false. But that second 3 peat team was pretty stacked and arguably the greatest team ever.
 

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Pip is ridiculously underrated IMO, but to say that Jordan played with stacked teams his whole career is also false. But that second 3 peat team was pretty stacked and arguably the greatest team ever.
I didn’t say he played with stacked teams his whole career FFS.

I just pointed out that LBJ has been surrounded by worse team mates than MJ for the most part.
 

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Never said he did, but Jordan stayed at the Bulls and help build a dynasty. LeBronksy had to join a super team he ever built anything. He's an all time great and probably the best athlete to play the game but he's no GOAT. He also plays in the all time softest era i wonder how he would of coped against the Bad Boy Pistons and Jordan Rules. Not well i imagine.
He would have been fine in that era. He is a more diverse player than MJ.
 

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I didn’t say he played with stacked teams his whole career FFS.

I just pointed out that LBJ has been surrounded by worse team mates than MJ for the most part.
Only cos the bulls won ... otherwise we would consider most of em bar pippen nothing special .... rodman had his moments, but he is as much known for being crazy as his ability
 

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I didn’t say he played with stacked teams his whole career FFS.

I just pointed out that LBJ has been surrounded by worse team mates than MJ for the most part.
That’s debatable, and as I said even the first Bulls 3 Peat team was hardly choc
Full of super stars. Could you see Jordan not winning with that Heat team??? Could you see Jordan not making the play Ins with the team Lakers had this season???
 

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That’s debatable, and as I said even the first Bulls 3 Peat team was hardly choc
Full of super stars. Could you see Jordan not winning with that Heat team??? Could you see Jordan not making the play Ins with the team Lakers had this season???
Even if I answer yes to your two hypotheticals it doesn’t prove that LBJ has had better team mates.
 

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Just having Pippen alone was massive.
Wade, Bosh, Irving, Davis are all nobodies??? This narrative that LeBronsky has played in poor teams for the majority of his career is false. His early Cleveland side was poor and he had to go to the Heat to win anything.
 

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He’s one of the biggest divers of all time, in an era of serious contact I reckon he might of struggled.
Thats what works now.

He’s a a far better distributor and team player than Jordan. He would have made Pippen look very f**ken good.

Jordan was a brilliant individual who backed himself against triple teaming etc. LBJ wouldn’t have approached it in the same way.
 

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Wade, Bosh, Irving, Davis are all nobodies??? This narrative that LeBronsky has played in poor teams for the majority of his career is false. His early Cleveland side was poor and he had to go to the Heat to win anything.
I’m just comparing his teams to MJ’s teams.

Pippen alone always tips it in MJ’s favour.
 

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Thats what works now.

He’s a a far better distributor and team player than Jordan. He would have made Pippen look very f**ken good.

Jordan was a brilliant individual who backed himself against triple teaming etc. LBJ wouldn’t have approached it in the same way.
Their records speak for themselves, one was undefeated in the finals while one is the biggest losers in finals history who had to leave and go to the Heat to win. I know who I’d want in a must win game and it’s not Lebronsky.
 

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Their records speak for themselves, one was undefeated in the finals while one is the biggest losers in finals history who had to leave and go to the Heat to win. I know who I’d want in a must win game and it’s not Lebronsky.
That literally has nothing to do with the original point we were discussing.

You seem to think I’m saying LBJ is better than MJ. I would never suggest that.

Clearly LeBron is on your shit list with JA. Lucky he doesn’t play for the Eels.

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That literally has nothing to do with the original point we were discussing.

You seem to think I’m saying LBJ is better than MJ. I would never suggest that.

Clearly LeBron is on your shit list with JA. Lucky he doesn’t play for the Eels.

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You are the one who said that Lebronsky played with inferior team mates to Jordan. I think it’s false. Especially that Heat team he ran too. And his massive fail with the Lakers this year cements his failure to even be mentioned in the same sentence as MJ. I’ve always thought he was unlikeable merkin but always respected him as a player. He’s a an time great no doubt but he’s no MJ.
 

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You are the one who said that Lebronsky played with inferior team mates to Jordan. I think it’s false. Especially that Heat team he ran too. And his massive fail with the Lakers this year cements his failure to even be mentioned in the same sentence as MJ. I’ve always thought he was unlikeable merkin but always respected him as a player. He’s a an time great no doubt but he’s no MJ.
If he had Pippen he'd have shitload of rings.
 

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