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Now we've got Elias suggesting they sack Green before the last game and bring in Slater or some other merkin I just forgot.

Don't like the new seating positions.
 
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All three going for Wighton over Moses because what, loyalty? f**k me, do they want to win or what? Moses or Reynolds would be like for like.
 

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So Cleary has a shoulder tear?

He is gone for the season IMO, They are bastard of things to heal without surgery

If he plays on, it will need to be managed via pain killers. I am opposition coach , im telling all my forwards, (and backs) to run hard at him on the side of his injured shoulder. Will be exposed like a Portuguese chicken

Talk of Moses for Origin 3

Agree with the panel. Wighton to 6, Luia to 7

Gutho possibly to 14?
 

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So Cleary has a shoulder tear?

He is gone for the season IMO, They are bastard of things to heal without surgery

If he plays on, it will need to be managed via pain killers. I am opposition coach , im telling all my forwards, (and backs) to run hard at him on the side of his injured shoulder. Will be exposed like a Portuguese chicken

Talk of Moses for Origin 3

Agree with the panel. Wighton to 6, Luia to 7

Gutho possibly to 14?
Mahoney had the same injury. It's not necessarily season ending. 5-6 weeks probably.
 

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Mahoney had the same injury. It's not necessarily season ending. 5-6 weeks probably.


My understanding its very differewnt

Reeds was in the capsule joint in the shoulder, the injury caused the ligaments in the capsule to "freeze", or have less movement, which is painful. Basically a bad inflammation. So lot of rehab and good to go in a few weeks or so when he has full range of motion

A shoulder tear (if that is what Cleary has got) is a different beast. Out for the year , or will be playing at well below 100% fitness

Ive had a 2mm shoulder tear, a good 12 months to recovery to get back to 100%. Only had access to minimal physiotherapy and only two cortizone shots.
 

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My understanding its very differewnt

Reeds was in the capsule joint in the shoulder, the injury caused the ligaments in the capsule to "freeze", or have less movement, which is painful. Basically a bad inflammation. So lot of rehab and good to go in a few weeks or so when he has full range of motion

A shoulder tear (if that is what Cleary has got) is a different beast. Out for the year , or will be playing at well below 100% fitness

Ive had a 2mm shoulder tear, a good 12 months to recovery to get back to 100%. Only had access to minimal physiotherapy and only two cortizone shots.
Wasn't it a sublaxation which effects the capsule joint in the shoulder (same as Cleary's)? And if it sublaxed there would have been some kind of strain / tear to the ligaments
 

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Wasn't it a sublaxation which effects the capsule joint in the shoulder (same as Cleary's)? And if it sublaxed there would have been some kind of strain / tear to the ligaments

Dont think Reed had a tear though, Sublaxation can be just a dislocation or bone movement, which can be painfull, but recovery is a lot better than a tear

They are saying Cleary has a tear, which is a new ball game

Probably know more on his diagnosis next few days, but i dare say he has got it far worse than Reed
 

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My understanding its very differewnt

Reeds was in the capsule joint in the shoulder, the injury caused the ligaments in the capsule to "freeze", or have less movement, which is painful. Basically a bad inflammation. So lot of rehab and good to go in a few weeks or so when he has full range of motion

A shoulder tear (if that is what Cleary has got) is a different beast. Out for the year , or will be playing at well below 100% fitness

Ive had a 2mm shoulder tear, a good 12 months to recovery to get back to 100%. Only had access to minimal physiotherapy and only two cortizone shots.
I've had both shoulders repaired plus had one "unfrozen". Painful, painful, painful and never the same again. These blokes are heaps tougher than me though.
 

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I've had both shoulders repaired plus had one "unfrozen". Painful, painful, painful and never the same again. These blokes are heaps tougher than me though.

true, painful it is

Dont forget mate, they have access to physios, specialists , psychologists and the like at their beck and call

And when your on a million dollars a year, you use all that to get yourself right as quick as possible
 

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I've had both shoulders repaired plus had one "unfrozen".
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Continuity or you think superior combo? What about the kicking game?
Well it's Origin, and NSW has a superior team, so they only need to play a very low risk power game. They also already have a few dudes who can kick so Wighton only needs to supplement the kicking games of Luai and Mitchell. The latter can also kick goals, but really it's all about including another strong runner and defender in the halves and just grinding Queensland out of the game. When your team is so much better than the opposition's you don't need to take any risks. Over 80 minutes you'll dominate field position and wear them down.
 

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