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NRL 5/8 rankings

Kiwi

First Grade
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Balmain_Boy said:
Kiwi, Sheensy said Benji will play at 90.

Oh I have no doubt he'll play at that weight. The guy is still young and will bulk up a bit. Wouldn't surprise me if was close to that by the end of next year.
 

Sir Biffo

Bench
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2,610
Hurriflatch said:
Based on 2005 form

1. Marshall
2. Barrett
3. Morris
4. Sutton
5. J.Smith

At their best
1. Barrett
2. Marshall
3. J.Smith
4. Sutton
5. Lockyer

I would agree to this, but (even though I'm a little biased :)), I would put Barrett above Benji this season, simply becaue Trent has had to do a lot himself, and he has a makeshift half inside him in Hornby.
 

avsterooster

Juniors
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barrett is the best 5/8th in the nrl n would of been the last few yrs had it not been for injury. Hes skill is brilliant, great passing game and kicking game but what has differentiated him this yr is his ability to run at the line and create havoc

one handed off loads slicing through the defense, the number 1 five eighth in the nrl at the moment

in my opinion ofcourse
 

Sir Biffo

Bench
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Well Barrett is far better a ball runner than Lockyer. Lockyer should be running off players like Barrett in the Tri Nations, and then we would be able to wreak havoc.
 

Balmain_Boy

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Kiwi said:
Oh I have no doubt he'll play at that weight. The guy is still young and will bulk up a bit. Wouldn't surprise me if was close to that by the end of next year.

Yeh sorry mate, I misread what you wrote.
 

Humphrey

Juniors
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Picked on current form rather than reputation

Tigers-Benji
Panthers-Campbell
Bulldogs-Anasta
Eels-Morris
Cowboys-Thurston
Knights-Gidley
Roosters-Wing
Dragons-Barrett
Broncos-Lockyer
Storm-Hill
Sea Eagles-Witt or other
Warriors-Ropati
Rabbitohs-Sutton
Raiders-Smith
Sharks-Dykes
 

drake

First Grade
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Barrett
Marshall
J.Smith
Sutton
Morris
Lockyer
Thurston
Anasta
Hill
Gidley
Campbell
Dykes
Raopati
Witt
 
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1. Barrett
2. J. Smith
3. Lockyer (Because of defence. He's a better fullback)
4. Marshall
5. Thurston
6. Anasta
7. Campbell

And the rest I can't be bothered with...
 

Mr Saab

Referee
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27,762
Humphrey said:
Picked on current form rather than reputation

Tigers-Benji
Panthers-Campbell
Bulldogs-Anasta
Eels-Morris
Cowboys-Thurston
Knights-Gidley
Roosters-Wing
Dragons-Barrett
Broncos-Lockyer
Storm-Hill
Sea Eagles-Witt or other
Warriors-Ropati
Rabbitohs-Sutton
Raiders-Smith
Sharks-Dykes

wing?????? how many games has he played at 5/8 in 2005 or basically his whole career???
 

gregstar

Referee
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20,464
Humphrey said:
Picked on current form rather than reputation

Tigers-Benji
Panthers-Campbell
Bulldogs-Anasta
Eels-Morris
Cowboys-Thurston
Knights-Gidley
Roosters-Wing
Dragons-Barrett
Broncos-Lockyer
Storm-Hill
Sea Eagles-Witt or other
Warriors-Ropati
Rabbitohs-Sutton
Raiders-Smith
Sharks-Dykes
so on current form barrett is the 8th best 5/8?

get off the sauce
 

jimmy_pop

Juniors
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118
1. #1 player in the WORLD - Darren Lockyer
2. Benji Marshal
3. Preston Cambell
4. J.Smith
5. Thurston
6. Barrett
7. Sutton
8. Fien
9. Dykes

The rest are sh*thouse
 

JJ

Immortal
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I'd say

Barrett
Lockyer
Smith
Anasta
Hill
Marshall

In that order, more or less, but Benji will move up...
 

borat

Bench
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3,511
Dragons-Barrett
Tigers-Benji
Cowboys-Thurston
Broncos-Lockyer
Panthers-Campbell
Bulldogs-Anasta
Storm-Hill
Rabbitohs-Sutton
Raiders-Smith
Eels-Morris
Roosters-Wing
Knights - Gidley
Sharks-Dykes
Sea Eagles-Witt
Warriors-Ropati
 

oldmancraigy

Coach
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Just to try and be a bit more objective than saying "my teams 5/8 is best" I thought I'd put some evidence on the table to support some arguments!

I'm rating the 5/8's on this years form - and I'll admit, I haven't seen every game of footy this year, but I've seen more than enough games and plenty of games including all the teams! [I'm not rating Thurston here as he played more games at halfback this season]


1. Benji Marshall - outstanding running 5/8 - has made a phenomenal 20 linebreaks this season, and also set up 12 tries to boot! Always a danger with the ball in hand - but not much of a defensive presence (13 tackles + 3.5 misses!). Despite his creativity, comes up with less than an error per game!

2. Darren Lockyer - played well on a team that struggles for attacking options when the ball isn't in his hands! Laid on 21 tries, and made 15 linebreaks in only 21 games. Genuinely struggles in defense [4.3 misses a game], and his error count crept up towards the end of the season [2.2 per game] as he tried to force plays.

3. Trent Barrett - does a bit of everything well! Set up 12 tries, made 11 linebreaks, is reasonable in defense [15.7 tackles, 2.9 misses], and doesn't make too many errors [1 per game]. Good long kicking game, but could use some work on his short game! One would've thought he would set up more tries with classy centres like Gasnier and Cooper outside him.

4. John Morris - highly underrated as a playmaker. Second behind only Darren Lockyer in terms of setting up tries (for 5/8s) with 19 try assists for the season. Outstanding defensively - one of the best in the comp at this position [24.9 tackles, 2.4 misses], and doesn't overplay his hand [only 1.1 errors per game].

5. Jason Smith - playmaking genius - 14 try assists in only 19 games [with the Raiders outside backs!]. Keeps the ball alive well [1.2 offloads], and just reminds us how clever he was back in his younger days.

6. John Sutton - rising star with great size [102kgs]. Elusive running style and ability to throw long or short balls showed itself [11 linebreaks, 9 try assists], great size enables him to surge into the line and get a ball away [2.4 offloads], willing in defense [17.4 tackles], but needs to make sure of them [3.5 misses]. Seems to have the knack of not forcing the issues [1.1 errors per game] - surely a star of the future at either 5/8 or lock forward!

7. Preston Campbell - defense has always been a question mark, still is. 8 tackles and 3.3 misses makes him the worst defensive player in this category. Elusive when running the ball [15 linebreaks] and handy in constructing plays. Struggled early this season the adapt to the new centre pairing outside him [only 7 try assists this season].

8. Scott Hill - not a good year for Hill. Struggled to set up plays in his usual fashion [6 try assists], didn't run the ball well this year [2 linebreaks] but somehow still manages to look dangerous when he stops and looks at the line. As always, the question over Scott Hill is whether he will return injury free to start a new campaign!

9. Kurt Gidley - a willing worker who tackles himself to a standstill every game [31.1 tackles, 2.5 misses]. His strength is his fitness, which he uses to backup every play, and make himself available to cart the ball forward whenever necessary. Tends to force the issue, which can be good [2.6 offloads is first among 5/8s], but also leads to trouble [1.9 errors]. Not a geniune playmaker, nor a great kicker.

10. Adam Dykes - always a willing competitor, his defensive workload showed that he was putting the effort into his game [21.8 tackles, 3.2 misses]. Tends to create tries from short kicks [10 try asssists], and was less dangerous running the ball this year than he has been in years gone by [5 linebreaks].

11. Braith Anasta - good kicking game in general play, tends to find space and make the ball bounce. Big body, but awful defensively - makes 13.2 tackles a game, but misses 3.9 of them. Not a genuine playmaker, tends to throw long balls and hope his centres can use whatever room the defense has given them [only 5 try assists this year - last among 5/8s on a per game ratio - follows only 8 last year]. Not a genuine threat when running the ball either - only 7 linebreaks. 1 offload per game ranks around the average for a 5/8.

12. Michael Witt - can kick the ball a long way, but doesn't regularly find the ground. Good in defense [18.1 tackles, 2.8 misses]. But not a real playmaker, nor runner of the football [7 try assists, 6 linebreaks]. Tends to go missing for long stretches - particularly at the back end of matches.


Well that's it - not really fair to compare players like Faumuina, who played all over the paddock, nor Justin Smith, whos job was to play as a lock anyway, nor whoever got the pat on the back from Ricky to line up at 5/8 that week!
 

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