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NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

Iamback

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State contracts can be signed

They are not part of the CBA

Which is what the girls are training under right now, Not sure why it is hard for people to understand that everyone referred back to 2022 conditions.

That atm includes 3 different contracts for women.
 
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Aaron Woods the other day said women sign 3 contracts across the year.

Their state body
NRLW
Aus/NZ

Whichever one is for All Stars ( Aus/NZ ) will get signed or the players lose a share of the revenue if they strike

Also, IIRC, the contracts they sign are maximum 1 year contracts. That is why there is often so much personnel turn over season to season in the NRLW.
 

Iamback

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Also, IIRC, the contracts they sign are maximum 1 year contracts. That is why there is often so much personnel turn over season to season in the NRLW.

That should be different, It would be nice for them to sign multi year deals, Especially with Cowboys in the comp. Lets not make out they have never been covered for injury though
 
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Also, IIRC, the contracts they sign are maximum 1 year contracts. That is why there is often so much personnel turn over season to season in the NRLW.
The NRLW contracts are for the duration of the NRLW Comp - 3 months or so - covering a short pre-season and the competition.

The NRLW players are advocating for 12 month contracts and ability to sign multi year one's.

Not quite sure how that will work with the state based comps played earlier as players could play for different teams in these comps other than an NRL/NRLW affiliated one.

Example - Sarah Togatuki played for St Mary's in the NSW Women's Premiership and in the NRLW played for the Sydney Roosters.

The Sydney Roosters affiliated team in the NSW Women's Premiership are the Central Coast Roosters
 
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The NRLW contracts are for the duration of the NRLW Comp - 3 months or so - covering a short pre-season and the competition.

The NRLW players are advocating for 12 month contracts and ability to sign multi year one's.

Not quite sure how that will work with the state based comps played earlier as players could play for different teams in these comps other than an NRL/NRLW affiliated one.

Example - Sarah Togatuki played for St Mary's in the NSW Women's Premiership and in the NRLW played for the Sydney Roosters.

The Sydney Roosters affiliated team in the NSW Women's Premiership are the Central Coast Roosters

You are correct, and by being simplistic, I was in error. I should have said they were single season length contracts.
 
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The following was published by the Sydney Morning Herald (source: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/th...ncrease-hardship-funding-20230124-p5cf4v.html) -

‘That’s a big one for me’: Hodgson says NRL must increase hardship funding​

Christian Nicolussi

By Christian Nicolussi

January 24, 2023 — 7.45pm

The growing concern over concussions and the need to look after players whose careers are cut short by head knocks has emerged as one of the biggest sticking points in the drawn-out CBA talks between the NRL and Rugby League Players’ Association.

That’s according to Parramatta recruit and RLPA director Josh Hodgson, who says the amount of money the NRL are proposing for the injury hardship fund is insufficient and the reason he is unlikely to back a deal with head office any time soon.

Despite the NRL tabling a record $1.347 billion in total player payments for the next five years, up from the $980m offered during the last CBA, the players claim that the new proposal will leave them worse off in several areas.
One of those is the injury hardship fund, which was funded to the tune of $3m each year before being reduced to $1m in 2020, 2021 and 2022 as a result of COVID.

Hodgson said the rise in concussions - not to mention the nearly 300 extra players in the game as a result of the ten NRLW teams and NRL expansion side the Dolphins - meant the NRL needed to make the fund a priority.
“People will hear about the salary cap being set at $12m and then call the players greedy for not accepting it,” Hodgson told the Herald.

“It’s the highest cap the game has ever offered, and if it was only about money we would have jumped at that offer.

What the RLPA want​

  • A seat at the table when it comes to making any employment-related changes during the current CBA, including any proposed increased to fines, changing the length of the season, and policies relating to criminal proceedings;
  • An increased injury hardship fund, which will now need to cover more than 250 extra players because of the arrival of the Dolphins and 10 NRLW teams;
  • A new medical support fund, which allows players to have surgeries and rehabilitation covered more than 12 months after they retire;
  • A new collective bargaining agreement for the NRLW;
  • Better training wages, an increased minimum wage and match fees;
  • Better post-career programs to help players transition into normal life once they stop playing.
“But there are other things we are not matching up on, including the injury hardship fund. That’s a big one for me.

“Head knocks have become more relevant than ever, especially with so many people coming forward and saying they’ve had head injuries and head knocks and want to be checked out.

“It is going to become a really important issue. The game hasn’t done anything wrong when it comes to concussion. The NRL is learning about concussions on the run, just as the players are.
“But we want to make sure things are in place so players are protected if they are forced out of the game.”
The RLPA are also pushing to have more autonomy when it comes to allocating money the NRL provides them. Hodgson said the players were the “best placed to know who needed what.”

Talks between NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo and RLPA boss Clint Newton are expected to resume after they met last Thursday.

Talk of strike action has been floated, with North Queensland halfback Chad Townsend telling the Herald over the weekend: “I really hope a strike is not the option. As players, we have to consider all our options and what will be best for us. We’ll be prepared to do what it takes to achieve what we believe is fair and reasonable.

“The players are prepared to wait and be patient. We need to make sure the deal we sign isn’t just a good one for this year, but in the next four or five years.”
 
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Right, so I played League throughout my teenage years, I had a couple of concussions.
If I have issues with my brain the older I get, should the NRL pay for it? or just NRL players?
I played the game, not at their level, but sustained the same injuries that they say have caused the issue.
Please note: the players would have to be able to prove beyond doubt that Rugby League has caused the issues.
Please also note: the players are not professionals in the medicine and healing fields.
Lawd help all those cross over boxes eh...
 

Iamback

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Right, so I played League throughout my teenage years, I had a couple of concussions.
If I have issues with my brain the older I get, should the NRL pay for it? or just NRL players?
I played the game, not at their level, but sustained the same injuries that they say have caused the issue.
Please note: the players would have to be able to prove beyond doubt that Rugby League has caused the issues.
Please also note: the players are not professionals in the medicine and healing fields.
Lawd help all those cross over boxes eh...

You summed up what those blaming the NRL for the hold up aren't understanding.

Country footy is full of guys with who played a single game or junior reps, Hell even Dugan still playing for Orange could get a body clean up paid for by the NRL.

AFL version. Ex players get either $6k or $8k to cover out of pocket expenses after getting a specialist to sign off
 

Perth Red

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I thought players didn't mention strike?
Journo “will you strike“
player “ we hope we don’t have to”

that’s literally been said over and over. Of course it is an option, but not one that anyone wants to take.
 

Perth Red

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Right, so I played League throughout my teenage years, I had a couple of concussions.
If I have issues with my brain the older I get, should the NRL pay for it? or just NRL players?
I played the game, not at their level, but sustained the same injuries that they say have caused the issue.
Please note: the players would have to be able to prove beyond doubt that Rugby League has caused the issues.
Please also note: the players are not professionals in the medicine and healing fields.
Lawd help all those cross over boxes eh...
You didn’t earn the game $1billion a year, so that would be a no!

diagnosing CTE will get more sophistacted in the years ahead and the ability to differentiate with certainty from other types of dementia will continue to improve. I’d suggest players and ex players should get regular brain MRIs to monitor what changes are happening.
 

Perth Red

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You summed up what those blaming the NRL for the hold up aren't understanding.

Country footy is full of guys with who played a single game or junior reps, Hell even Dugan still playing for Orange could get a body clean up paid for by the NRL.

AFL version. Ex players get either $6k or $8k to cover out of pocket expenses after getting a specialist to sign off
There’s a few things they can access dependant on circumstances. Afl payment to aflpa went up $23million last year so this may be out of date now depending on what that extra $23mill a year is going to?

 

Wb1234

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You mean the media that has constantly blown smoke up PVL’s ass because he gave them a nice discount and ensures they get private suites at the races has constantly provided a very pro-NRL admin slant on their articles? No way!
You think our media is pro rugby league

hahahahahaa.

weidler ritchie Kent rothfield

news ltd hasn’t had a decent journalist since frilingos died
 
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You didn’t earn the game $1billion a year, so that would be a no!

diagnosing CTE will get more sophistacted in the years ahead and the ability to differentiate with certainty from other types of dementia will continue to improve. I’d suggest players and ex players should get regular brain MRIs to monitor what changes are happening.
So any player who steps into a boxing ring, or maybe other self defence manual art etc, will be forfeiting their right for any compensation from the NRL?
because any insurance company will say "how do we know if this injury was caused by rugby league or boxing? Sorry, but it cannot be proven that rugby league caused this, it may very well have been the boxing. No payout for you"

And that is how insurance companies deal with payouts. Anything that is not black and white the case goes towards the negative.
The NRL would be taking these proposals to their insurance company, and then getting advice off them..
I imagine that that company would not be too keen on the proposal, unless of course they set a new premium? One which will be extremely high, and keeps on rising.

I suggest this is why they are having problems with their negotiations.
Hopefully the players are learning a thing or two about the real world and the dark evil that is insurance companies.
 

Iamback

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There’s a few things they can access dependant on circumstances. Afl payment to aflpa went up $23million last year so this may be out of date now depending on what that extra $23mill a year is going to?


These should rising each CBA as more players are eligible, Doesn't make it a free for all there needs to be hoops to jump through. To protect NRL from being rorted
 

Iamback

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So any player who steps into a boxing ring, or maybe other self defence manual art etc, will be forfeiting their right for any compensation from the NRL?
because any insurance company will say "how do we know if this injury was caused by rugby league or boxing? Sorry, but it cannot be proven that rugby league caused this, it may very well have been the boxing. No payout for you"

And that is how insurance companies deal with payouts. Anything that is not black and white the case goes towards the negative.
The NRL would be taking these proposals to their insurance company, and then getting advice off them..
I imagine that that company would not be too keen on the proposal, unless of course they set a new premium? One which will be extremely high, and keeps on rising.

I suggest this is why they are having problems with their negotiations.
Hopefully the players are learning a thing or two about the real world and the dark evil that is insurance companies.

Any fair minded person can see why the hold up is there, Insurance companies, Lawyers would be doing their things behind the scenes
 

siv

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Right, so I played League throughout my teenage years, I had a couple of concussions.
If I have issues with my brain the older I get, should the NRL pay for it? or just NRL players?
I played the game, not at their level, but sustained the same injuries that they say have caused the issue.
Please note: the players would have to be able to prove beyond doubt that Rugby League has caused the issues.
Please also note: the players are not professionals in the medicine and healing fields.
Lawd help all those cross over boxes eh...
Your not covered by the CBA as you did not play NRL
 
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Your not covered by the CBA as you did not play NRL
Correct.
But if they are going to start covering NRL players for future injuries, what's to say that anyone playing the sport, no matter what level, will now expect that they too be covered by their clubs?
You get where I am headed with this..
 
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