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NSW Team 2014

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DOGS AND EELS!!!

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Mr Saab said:
Pearce is a protected species, whilst all his 5/8s get punted.
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I know right......... Anasta was ok, he got cut, Soward wasn't too bad, he got the cut. Carney was a bit more effective then Pearce the series and he got cut with half as much games as pearce, now it looks like he'll be taking himself and his club mate with him. This guy has effectively ended the representative careers of 4 five-eights! Oh make that 5, he not only ended Trent Barrets Rep Career, but he put him into retirement! How good is he!?
 
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In all honesty, they should make a statue of Pearce outside Suncorp. His influence in QLD's dominance over the last 4 years, is up there with Smith, Thurston, Cronk and Slater. I'm not even joking, tell me, how the f**k does a representative HalfBack play a series with dominant forwards, and not manage to force ONE drop out?
 
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Ask Roosters supporters...the defend him to the death, even though in all three games he did NOTHING
 
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Mr Saab said:
Ask Roosters supporters...the defend him to the death, even though in all three games he did NOTHING
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I'm starting to believe that NSW selectors are being paid of by the QLD government, while Mitchell Piss is a secret under-operative for QLD. They planned this from 10 years back, when they were saying origin was dead in QLD, their Massiah came in the son of a NSW legend.

I still can't believe he didn't force ONE drop out. It's a miracle that NSW had managed to win 1 game with this guy 'guiding' the team.
 
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DOGS AND EELS!!! said:
I know right......... Anasta was ok, he got cut, Soward wasn't too bad, he got the cut. Carney was a bit more effective then Pearce the series and he got cut with half as much games as pearce, now it looks like he'll be taking himself and his club mate with him. This guy has effectively ended the representative careers of 4 five-eights! Oh make that 5, he not only ended Trent Barrets Rep Career, but he put him into retirement! How good is he!?
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Anasta is a lock playing on the bench for the 15th placed tigers.
Soward is in England after being not only demoted from the 14th placed merge but completely cut from them as well.
Carney is an injury prone ill-disciplined player who has only hit a purple patch again literally 6
hours ago.
Maloney will come good.
Barrett was always bog average.
 
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neutralsupporter said:
Anasta is a lock playing on the bench for the 15th placed tigers.
Soward is in England after being not only demoted from the 14th placed merge but completely cut from them as well.
Carney is an injury prone ill-disciplined player who has only hit a purple patch again literally 6
hours ago.
Maloney will come good.
Barrett was always bog average.
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-Anasta was your starting five eighth at the time
-Soward was the grand final winning five eighth at that time
-Carney was a former Daly M medalist and was playing amazingly well for the sharks and is also doing so now.
-Barret was 10x better then Pearce ever was and more successful in the origin arena than pearce could dream of
 
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DOGS AND EELS!!! said:
-Anasta was your starting five eighth at the time
-Soward was the grand final winning five eighth at that time
-Carney was a former Daly M medalist and was playing amazingly well for the sharks and is also doing so now.
-Barret was 10x better then Pearce ever was and more successful in the origin arena than pearce could dream of
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Debunking the myths.

1. Yes Anasta was our starting 5/8. But he was also the reason that the Roosters went so terribly. If you look at our results with Anasta in the team (2006-2012) we only made the finals twice during that period and once was when Carney was primarily 5/8. It's not our fault the selectors went with the inept Anasta but he is a curse and an invisible man and the Tigers are now suffering cause of it.

2. Soward was the GF winning 5/8, yes, but it has been proven time and time again that he cannot play under anyone other than Bennett. During his time at the Roosters under Stuart and Anderson he was essentially useless and under Brown he was dropped in favour of Ben Rogers of all people. Bennett brought the best out of him, probably via constant reassurance, something which cannot be provided at Origin stage. Regardless he did get his chance and performed poorly and never recovered from it. He was dropped to Illawarra Cutters and eventually to England. All cause he lost his coach.

3. Carney was the former Dally M while playing alongside Pearce, something which he never achieved again and most certainly not at the Sharks. His time as an origin player has come and gone. He is a good player but will never be a leading playmaker. Of the 5 that you mentioned earlier he would be second best after Maloney.

4. I had to check Barretts origin credentials cause I don't remember him being as dominant as you claim. He's played 11 games and won 4. I wouldn't exactly call that dominant but if you're basing that as being more successful than Pearce than so be it. Barrett should've been responsible for leading NSW to victory in 2008-2009 then but he didn't.
 
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3. Carney was the former Dally M while playing alongside Pearce, something which he never achieved again and most certainly not at the Sharks. His time as an origin player has come and gone. He is a good player but will never be a leading playmaker. Of the 5 that you mentioned earlier he would be second best after Maloney.
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What makes you think Carney is 2nd behind Maloney? I don't really see anything in his game that would make him NSW's best 5/8. Daley even said it was more his 'combination' with Pearce that put him on the side.
 
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Debunking the myths.

1. Yes Anasta was our starting 5/8. But he was also the reason that the Roosters went so terribly. If you look at our results with Anasta in the team (2006-2012) we only made the finals twice during that period and once was when Carney was primarily 5/8. It's not our fault the selectors went with the inept Anasta but he is a curse and an invisible man and the Tigers are now suffering cause of it.

2. Soward was the GF winning 5/8, yes, but it has been proven time and time again that he cannot play under anyone other than Bennett. During his time at the Roosters under Stuart and Anderson he was essentially useless and under Brown he was dropped in favour of Ben Rogers of all people. Bennett brought the best out of him, probably via constant reassurance, something which cannot be provided at Origin stage. Regardless he did get his chance and performed poorly and never recovered from it. He was dropped to Illawarra Cutters and eventually to England. All cause he lost his coach.

3. Carney was the former Dally M while playing alongside Pearce, something which he never achieved again and most certainly not at the Sharks. His time as an origin player has come and gone. He is a good player but will never be a leading playmaker. Of the 5 that you mentioned earlier he would be second best after Maloney.

4. I had to check Barretts origin credentials cause I don't remember him being as dominant as you claim. He's played 11 games and won 4. I wouldn't exactly call that dominant but if you're basing that as being more successful than Pearce than so be it. Barrett should've been responsible for leading NSW to victory in 2008-2009 then but he didn't.
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1. LOL you're clueless about Anasta, he won the captain of the year award at the roosters, in previous times he led Canterbury to a premiership while also leading them several times to the finals, he played for his state and country yet you blame him for the Roosters shittyness in previous years? You better hope that SBW does sign on, because if he doesn't and the roosters start crumbling, you'll have to find a new scape goat.

2. Jamie Soward from his 3 origin appearances proved more of an origin player then Pearce has ever. I recall him scoring a match winning and kicking a field goad to put it beyond doubt. He's won a Daly M for five eighth of the year, that can't only have been because of Bennet right? The fact he led a team to a premiership is more then Mitchell Pearce has ever done, do you think in previous years the Roosters should have dropped Pearce to for there craap season? And why can't he be given constant reassurance at origin level? Pearce got it, only difference was he never delivered.

3. Carney is a young man and would be better for origin then his previous outings. If you have watched the sharks in recent times and also last year, you'll see that is back to his best. Also he has 10x mre talent than Maloney has ever had, I would pick him any day over Maloney at SOO. Maloney has SBW outside him, who wouldn't look good with him tearing open holes?

4. Trent Barrets record may not be that great but him general play on the field was far superior to Pearce. He's won a man of the match award and also returned to lead his side to victory. Lets not forget that shot he put on Inglis to end the match for him. The best i've ever seen from Pearce is a solid game. That's just a game where he tackles, passes the ball and doesn't drop it. I've never seen Pearce execute an amazing peace of play making at origin level. He'll always be the guy who did the wrong thing and the wrong time. You can summarize Pearces origin career in one play that i remember and that was when he tried to bomb to Israel Folau's wing! Absolutely clueless.
 
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I agree with all of Mitchels supporters and believe Nsw should persist. He will come good eventually.
 
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THE CHAMP said:
I agree with all of Mitchels supporters and believe Nsw should persist. He will come good eventually.
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Daley has already stated before Game 3 that Pearce will be a part of the NSW side in 2014.

http://www.3news.co.nz/Laurie-Daley...esult/tabid/415/articleID/305072/Default.aspx

That article is quite humorous in light of how the third game panned-out. That article reported:

"Daley said it was up to the rest of the side to give Pearce the platform to lead the side around the field."

Well they gave him that in Game 3 via field position and the overwhelming weight of possession. What did Pearce do with that? Sweet FA.

It was interesting to also see in that article comment about the refs saying:

"The Blues were privately seething after losing the penalty count 8-5 in a first half dominated by Queensland as they laid the foundations for their 26-6 win in game two."

As history shows well into the second-half the penalty count was against the Maroons 8-0. Did Pearce capitalise on that advantage?

Nope. Daley seemed to think that was the kind of boost that would give NSW an opportunity:

"There were things that were out of our control and you'd like to think after 20 minutes this time, we'll have more than 20 per cent of possession."

So the excuse proffered for Pearce's uninspiring performance in the first two games was lack of platform from the rest of the team and the penalty count. So what excuse for him is left when he gets all of the above and still does sweet FA?

He will be back next year and the excuses will be trotted-out all over again. " He's a great kid". "He's just got to play his role". "People are always giving it to him". " Mitch is a great player to have".

As long as NSW fans are satisfied by excuses as a substitute for Origin victories, that is all that they will have to take home at the end of the series. Excuses.

Pearce is in the NSW team for reasons other than his Origin performances. They want him to assume the Captaincy.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/...e-captain-of-nsw/story-fn31yxah-1225922435064

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-03-22/pearce-laughs-off-origin-captaincy-talk/374576

That was 3 years ago. Pearce is still there because he can't become Captain unless he is selected.



If NSW fans can accept that he is not expected to perform, then there should be no controversy about his continuing selection to the team. My guess is that most NSW fans expect the record holding NSW halfback (ie most selections for NSW number 7)to perform.
 
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It is extremely telling that the ABC article where Stuart recommends Pearce to be awarded the Blues Captaincy was written:

After Pearce had appeared in only one Origin match and failed to fire.

After the Roosters had taken the wooden-spoon.

Prior to Game One of a series that QLD clean- swept where Pearce appeared in two Origin games.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-03-22/pearce-laughs-off-origin-captaincy-talk/374576

Does any of that appear to anyone else as an gilt-edged recommendation? After one crappy Origin game they are nominating this guy as the long-term future Captain. His form was not the issue. He was not expected to have a long track record in Origin(at the time of that article). He was simply being given without form or a proven track record at Origin level, green lights and having the red carpet rolled-out.

QLD win 3 games that year, yet despite all of the above Junior junior is selected for every subsequent State Of Origin with the prospect that he will be back for 2014. Since it is highly unlikely the Pearce will topple Gallen for the Captaincy in 2014, one would have to assume that in order to be any chance of taking his earmarked Captaincy, 2015 will be a certainty for Pearce to be selected also.

It's going to be a long two years for NSW fans. The only light on the horizon is that in 2016 NSW gets two home games again. You can bet your bottom dollar that Pearce will be there for 2016.
 
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