Nswrl - nsw cup/ brc 2010

[Stagger eel]

:lol: Cheers BTTF..Yeah..I Figured out that Issue would eventuate into the Wilderness..Now that i've Commented on this Matter, i'm Expecting that Slimey Eel 'Stagger' to Slot in his 'Loose Coins Worth ' on this Comment..:lol:

actually, better still..what has Parramatta done to make you hate them?..please, educate me ;-)

 

[back_to_the_future]

actually, better still..what has Parramatta done to make you hate them?..please, educate me ;-)

It is not a matter of hating parramatta but why does parra treat cabra as a second class citizen.
The Facts
Cabra supply more players to parra than any other club throughout all rep teams from harold matthews to nrl.
Question
How many people are involved with parra from cabra, hardly no one. The coaching staff come predominantly Hills, Wenty and All Saints, how can the club that supply the players dont get a chance to prove their skills at the next level.
Also there are many time when the number of players picked doesn't reflect the performance of cabra teams. It seems that others can not finish in the top two and still get the players picked. Yes we should have more players picked than we do even considering we got a lot picked.
All cabra people are asking for is a fair go, so why knock it back when they treat Wenty as the golden child and cabra as the poor cousin. And please don't tell me thats because parra and wenty are in bed together because in the end the two blues supply the quality players.

 

[Stagger eel]

It is not a matter of hating parramatta but why does parra treat cabra as a second class citizen.
The Facts
Cabra supply more players to parra than any other club throughout all rep teams from harold matthews to nrl.
Question
How many people are involved with parra from cabra, hardly no one. The coaching staff come predominantly Hills, Wenty and All Saints, how can the club that supply the players dont get a chance to prove their skills at the next level.
Also there are many time when the number of players picked doesn't reflect the performance of cabra teams. It seems that others can not finish in the top two and still get the players picked. Yes we should have more players picked than we do even considering we got a lot picked.
All cabra people are asking for is a fair go, so why knock it back when they treat Wenty as the golden child and cabra as the poor cousin. And please don't tell me thats because parra and wenty are in bed together because in the end the two blues supply the quality players.

ok..so you don't feel the love :roll:

can you just imagine if our reps were not playing at Cabra?? :lol:

 

[Terry the Parra God]

Uh, sorry slimmy but I need to weigh in here.
What a rediculous statement.
The facts as stated by BTTF are true and correct and if Cabra did not produce these players Parra would not have half the decent teams that they call reps.
The reason that the Cabra coaches do not get a look in is because they are not in the click of the Parra heirarchy as are Wenty, Hills and All Saints.
Hills and Wenty have supplied their fair share of rep players over the years and a lot of them deserve their spot however, a lot of them have also been given spots because of who they know in the Parra heirarchy which means that more talented kids have missed out.
All Saints are a johnny come lately but for some reason Parra officials are tripping over themselves to lay out the red carpet which is dissapointing when you have large clubs such as Cabra, Guildford, Mounties etc all producing huge numbers of players each year and getting no support from the district club.
It is nothin short of a disgrace and the officials at Parra should all be sacked and we should start over.
There is a distinct lack of direction from the district club and now more than ever it is who you know not what you produce.
Player numbers are stagnant and there is no plan to increase them instead it is left to individual clubs to take up the fight and the ones that are successful suddenly find themselves on the outer instead of being applauded.
The A Grade competition is a joke with the three big clubs Cabra, Wenty and Mounties the only ones with the ability to field a decent team along with Hills who are propped up by Parra with players from the U20's and all of the coaching support from the grade teams.
The A2 and A3 competition are a disgrace and some of the games I have seen you would not call it rugby league.
If there are no dramatic changes to the way this district is operated the main clubs will slowly throw their hands up and player numbers will fall.
That is a fact and all of the sucking up to the smaller clubs that Parra officials do will mean nothing.
Parra need to have an objective look at their program and remove the politics that is choking it to death.
You can make all of the comments that you like but the fact remains that there are a handful of clubs that are successful and are able to handle large nuumbers of participants and what do Parra do for them?
They try and beat them down and put road blocks in front of them.
You tell me if that is the action of an administrator, or a dictator.

 

[Stagger eel]

thanks for the explanation Terry...

I'll tell you where I'm at, I am what you call a red blooded supporter who takes a very keen interest in the club as a whole and when I'm not working I will get out of my way to watch all the junior rep matches as well as the state cup and br cup games involving wentworthville, I'm not alligned to any particular junior club I'm merely a fan and football club member so I don't know the ins and outs of your's and cabra's grievences.

As you're well aware we have a relatively new football club board who's been there since December of last year and they won a campaign on the back of maintaining and holding on to our strong junior links (politics aside) they've also made it perfectly clear that they will be much more approachable and transparent as any board in that position has ever been.

I know the club has gone and is currently going through a major internal restructure and alot of those officials they you want sacked may well be gone but having said that, i would very strongly suggest that you guys approach members of the board about your issues and see what sort of response you get, I would also encourage you guys to let us know on the eels forum because I have no doubt if there's anyone who can rattle some buckets and make sure the right people are doing their job, it's us.

let us know how you go.

 

[back_to_the_future]

Stagger Eel, let me assure this is not a personel attack on you, I have seen many of your posts on the Parra forum and read them with great interest. I can see that you are true parra supporter and respect you for that. I also enjoy going to junior rep games and think its great that they play home games at cabra.
I think the main point here is that it is hard to convince some sections of junior club as to what benefit cabra gets from the parra connection. Parra get plenty I think that cabra people would just like a fair go.
Keep up the good work Stagger Eel.

 

[Stagger eel]

Stagger Eel, let me assure this is not a personel attack on you, I have seen many of your posts on the Parra forum and read them with great interest. I can see that you are true parra supporter and respect you for that. I also enjoy going to junior rep games and think its great that they play home games at cabra.
I think the main point here is that it is hard to convince some sections of junior club as to what benefit cabra gets from the parra connection. Parra get plenty I think that cabra people would just like a fair go.
Keep up the good work Stagger Eel.

don't worry mate, I'm certainly not taking it as a personel attack...

I honestly believe that if you feel that Cabra are getting a raw deal than it should be raised at board level, you should try and get in contact with Eric Grothe Senior, he is without doubt one of the most understanding and level headed person I've ever met...

 

[Roland]

Cabramatta will enter a team in 2010 as they have appointed assistant coach Corey Ruttle to coach in 2010 at their presentation two weeks ago.

I know it is early days but how are Cabra going resigning this years' squad. Could be a tougher comp next year with The Entrance back and I heard a story that Shellharbour are going to come back from the State Cup. If true, that would mean two more competitive teams in the comp.

 

[CABRA ROCKS]

I know it is early days but how are Cabra going resigning this years' squad. Could be a tougher comp next year with The Entrance back and I heard a story that Shellharbour are going to come back from the State Cup. If true, that would mean two more competitive teams in the comp.

I've been told that despite the Rumours of no 'BRC' Squad & Just the 'NSW VB CUP running around for 2010.. that there will Definately be a BRC Team for next year.. but without a few of the Trump Card players..minus Benny Ellis & The Trotter brothers were keen in playing overseas.. & Dallalana could go & a couple of other Names were mentioned that they might not be at the club come next season ??..

 

[murraymob]

so have parra objected to cabramatta aligning with the sharks or not

 

[Terry the Parra God]

From what I have heard that is the case.
Parra wont let them form a partnership as they feel it will threaten their district ties.

Stagger, I have to say that I think there have been approaches and they have all fallen on deaf ears.

If the new board are serious about this issue they would come out and approach the clubs and sit and talk through the issues.

As it is now the clubs get stopped at junior league level and their issues are never raised due to the junior league committee stifling those and trying to keep hold of the tenure that they have within the club.

It is a sad affair.

 

[Stagger eel]

Uh, sorry slimmy but I need to weigh in here.
What a rediculous statement.
The facts as stated by BTTF are true and correct and if Cabra did not produce these players Parra would not have half the decent teams that they call reps.
The reason that the Cabra coaches do not get a look in is because they are not in the click of the Parra heirarchy as are Wenty, Hills and All Saints.
Hills and Wenty have supplied their fair share of rep players over the years and a lot of them deserve their spot however, a lot of them have also been given spots because of who they know in the Parra heirarchy which means that more talented kids have missed out.
All Saints are a johnny come lately but for some reason Parra officials are tripping over themselves to lay out the red carpet which is dissapointing when you have large clubs such as Cabra, Guildford, Mounties etc all producing huge numbers of players each year and getting no support from the district club.
It is nothin short of a disgrace and the officials at Parra should all be sacked and we should start over.
There is a distinct lack of direction from the district club and now more than ever it is who you know not what you produce.
Player numbers are stagnant and there is no plan to increase them instead it is left to individual clubs to take up the fight and the ones that are successful suddenly find themselves on the outer instead of being applauded.
The A Grade competition is a joke with the three big clubs Cabra, Wenty and Mounties the only ones with the ability to field a decent team along with Hills who are propped up by Parra with players from the U20's and all of the coaching support from the grade teams.
The A2 and A3 competition are a disgrace and some of the games I have seen you would not call it rugby league.
If there are no dramatic changes to the way this district is operated the main clubs will slowly throw their hands up and player numbers will fall.
That is a fact and all of the sucking up to the smaller clubs that Parra officials do will mean nothing.
Parra need to have an objective look at their program and remove the politics that is choking it to death.
You can make all of the comments that you like but the fact remains that there are a handful of clubs that are successful and are able to handle large nuumbers of participants and what do Parra do for them?
They try and beat them down and put road blocks in front of them.
You tell me if that is the action of an administrator, or a dictator.

Terry, I've just been told that this post was e-mailed to a Parramatta official today!!..i didn't send it, but someone i know who reads the forums did..hopefully you'll get a positive response from it.

 

[Roland]

Jamie Feeney, coach of the Central Coast Storm for the last few years will take over as coach of Erina in the local comp next year.

No surprises as The Entrance with Jamy Forbes appointed as coach of the Bundy Cup team.

 

[mono_mal]

The reported stance taken by Parramatta is disapointing. Cabramatta deserve the opportunity to develop as a club and the State Cup allows them to do so at no detriment to the Eels whatsoever. Parramatta would still have first pick of the junior talent and could still choose to contract players and play them with the Western Sydney Academy.
Cronulla may look at other potential rep players though these fringe players are not likely to make first grade if they struggle to make local age teams. Its Parramatta's role to identify the best talent regardless and this situation would still allow them to do so. It simply gives Cabramatta players a seperate pathway to elite football via the BRC and JBC structure that has been successful at Wenty, Windsor and the Bulls.
Souths have had no objections with the Jets feeding Easts and Cronulla. For a successful second tier structure to develop we need to promote the individual clubs identities and reduce NRL clubs involvement.
Hopefully Parramatta and Cabramatta can resolve the issue and prevent any further bad feeling between the clubs.

 

[CABRA ROCKS]

The reported stance taken by Parramatta is disapointing. Cabramatta deserve the opportunity to develop as a club and the State Cup allows them to do so at no detriment to the Eels whatsoever. Parramatta would still have first pick of the junior talent and could still choose to contract players and play them with the Western Sydney Academy.
Cronulla may look at other potential rep players though these fringe players are not likely to make first grade if they struggle to make local age teams. Its Parramatta's role to identify the best talent regardless and this situation would still allow them to do so. It simply gives Cabramatta players a seperate pathway to elite football via the BRC and JBC structure that has been successful at Wenty, Windsor and the Bulls.
Souths have had no objections with the Jets feeding Easts and Cronulla. For a successful second tier structure to develop we need to promote the individual clubs identities and reduce NRL clubs involvement.
Hopefully Parramatta and Cabramatta can resolve the issue and prevent any further bad feeling between the clubs.

](*,)To say that Issue is Dissapointing is an Understatement, more like 'Tragic'..I Mean lets not Loose Focus of what this Matter is about & that is too Give Cabra juniors who have been Overlooked or missed out in the Selection process another chance to Play Rep 0r NSW Cup Footy I know of 6 to 8 players in that 'Cabra bundy cup' squad that are good enough to play NSW/VB cup & By the Looks of how things are Ironing out They might as well have to Leave the club & Trial out for Wentys, Windsor, Sydney Bulls to get a shot at playing NSW Cup Level..](*,)

 

[footy watch]

hey guys, there is alot happening at bundy cup level.some new teams,some exiting and also some re-joining. i guess there is alot going on at every individual club but there is a massive shake up at one of the glamour clubs. The ex manager of this club has been seen entering a private meeting with the clubs major sponsor and asking them to withdraw their sponsorship of that club and gave a proposal to enter a new team from that area....