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NZ 2 .. 360 million dollar bid

Matiunz

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Crusaders have built a strong rugby club based on chch and then the highlanders in Otago / Dunedin

So ignoring Wellington it’s an area that supports two super rugby sides
Highlanders have periodically been brought up as the NZ team to drop if a team needs to be cut, they tend to rely very heavily on imported players and tapped into the uni imports strongly. Yes they have the odd outlier year and even managed to jag a title but are generally the NZ team that struggles.

They got a team based on the Historical 5 main centres(Dunedin has since been overtaken and left behind) and an even spread of teams, in the Women’s super rugby they don’t have a team for example It’s a single South Island franchise
 

taste2taste

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Looks like the Orcas are thinking big with pathways in Hawaii and jamaica. Before people laugh at Jamaica being mentioned, league is played in schools and they qualified for the previous WC using mostly domestic players.

source = Daily Telegraph

In an unprecedented move, the Christchurch-based Southern Orcas will start a development program early next year which will span across Fiji, Samoa, Cook Islands, Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, French Polynesia and expand to Hawaii and the Caribbean.

“The number of players that would be suited to our game would be phenomenal,” Orcas managing director Andrew Chalmers said.

“The Caribbean have absolutely fantastic athletes and Hawaii is a huge catchment area of athletes that would be suited to our sport – they just haven’t been exposed to it. It would help with the internationalisation of rugby league.”

The initiative will form part of the club’s expanded sports education pathways and be included in the Orcas’ bid for NRL inclusion.

“The Hawaiian breeding ground is untapped when it comes to rugby league – the athletes there are big and powerful and would be ideal for the NRL. This could be a historic move by the Orcas,” said former Australian NFL player Colin Scotts, who won a scholarship to play American football at the University of Hawaii during the early 1980s.
 

MugaB

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Looks like the Orcas are thinking big with pathways in Hawaii and jamaica. Before people laugh at Jamaica being mentioned, league is played in schools and they qualified for the previous WC using mostly domestic players.

source = Daily Telegraph

In an unprecedented move, the Christchurch-based Southern Orcas will start a development program early next year which will span across Fiji, Samoa, Cook Islands, Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, French Polynesia and expand to Hawaii and the Caribbean.

“The number of players that would be suited to our game would be phenomenal,” Orcas managing director Andrew Chalmers said.

“The Caribbean have absolutely fantastic athletes and Hawaii is a huge catchment area of athletes that would be suited to our sport – they just haven’t been exposed to it. It would help with the internationalisation of rugby league.”

The initiative will form part of the club’s expanded sports education pathways and be included in the Orcas’ bid for NRL inclusion.

“The Hawaiian breeding ground is untapped when it comes to rugby league – the athletes there are big and powerful and would be ideal for the NRL. This could be a historic move by the Orcas,” said former Australian NFL player Colin Scotts, who won a scholarship to play American football at the University of Hawaii during the early 1980s.
This sounds like the whole "there wonderful athletes in kenya" all over again
 

AlwaysGreen

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Thinking big is great. But let's get your backyard in order first.

If you're looking to Jamaica it says that you don't have enough where you are.
 

Perth Red

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This sounds like the whole "there wonderful athletes in kenya" all over again
The amount of money and time it takes to turn a new area into an area delivering first grade players is huge. For sure Caribbean is a real potential breeding ground but it would take tens of millions and decades in reality. Sounds good on paper though I suppose.
 

SirPies&Beers

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Thinking big is great. But let's get your backyard in order first.

If you're looking to Jamaica it says that you don't have enough where you are.
maybe it could lead into Cool Runnings 2: The NRL Orca Expansion

Forbes Freezing GIF by For(bes) The Culture
 

Wb1234

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The amount of money and time it takes to turn a new area into an area delivering first grade players is huge. For sure Caribbean is a real potential breeding ground but it would take tens of millions and decades in reality. Sounds good on paper though I suppose.
Yep

Only nz2 and png will be doing that

Nz2 should be focusing on nz and not bs schemes
 

RedVee

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The amount of money and time it takes to turn a new area into an area delivering first grade players is huge. For sure Caribbean is a real potential breeding ground but it would take tens of millions and decades in reality. Sounds good on paper though I suppose.
Tbf Jamaica has a comp including playing in schools. They play Tests vs the US and Canada fairly regularly and have a diaspora in the UK which enabled them to qualify for the last RLWC.
They may never reach England, NZ or Australia but they could be a solid minnow with some individuals that reach some heights.
 

Perth Red

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Tbf Jamaica has a comp including playing in schools. They play Tests vs the US and Canada fairly regularly and have a diaspora in the UK which enabled them to qualify for the last RLWC.
They may never reach England, NZ or Australia but they could be a solid minnow with some individuals that reach some heights.
I'm talking about what the bid are proposing, which is to see a steady stream of NRL 1st graders from those locations. To do that requires massive investment and time. It was great to see 25% of the RLWC squad being domestic players. There is no doubt potential there, but then you could say the same about a whole raft of places when it comes to RL!
 

Perth Red

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Yep

Only nz2 and png will be doing that

Nz2 should be focusing on nz and not bs schemes
If the game was to invest then France, WA, Wales, cumbria, Jamaica, Nth America, the PI's (domestic ones not aussie born ones), Scandinavia, NT etc etc could all be producing first graders. No end of opportunity, just a lack of strategy and investment.
 

Matua

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Looks like the Orcas are thinking big with pathways in Hawaii and jamaica. Before people laugh at Jamaica being mentioned, league is played in schools and they qualified for the previous WC using mostly domestic players.

source = Daily Telegraph

In an unprecedented move, the Christchurch-based Southern Orcas will start a development program early next year which will span across Fiji, Samoa, Cook Islands, Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, French Polynesia and expand to Hawaii and the Caribbean.

“The number of players that would be suited to our game would be phenomenal,” Orcas managing director Andrew Chalmers said.

“The Caribbean have absolutely fantastic athletes and Hawaii is a huge catchment area of athletes that would be suited to our sport – they just haven’t been exposed to it. It would help with the internationalisation of rugby league.”

The initiative will form part of the club’s expanded sports education pathways and be included in the Orcas’ bid for NRL inclusion.

“The Hawaiian breeding ground is untapped when it comes to rugby league – the athletes there are big and powerful and would be ideal for the NRL. This could be a historic move by the Orcas,” said former Australian NFL player Colin Scotts, who won a scholarship to play American football at the University of Hawaii during the early 1980s.
This is so stupid, and typical of the bollocks that comes out of the grifter Chalmer's mouth.
 

Gobsmacked

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Do you people seriously see a team trying develop talent in a developing nation as a bad thing? Absolutely bizarre.
Jamaica has the fastest people on the planet and Rugby league actually has a little toe in there. Spend a few quid, hold a couple of training camps each year.
Apart from our residents kiwi that thinks all must be kiwi and reside in kiwiland ( Apart from himself of course lol)

I actually think every team in the comp should have to state an affiliate nation to partner with, some are already doing it off their own bat( obviously because it mutually beneficial) Storm and Fiji, Roosters and the USA. More teams will catch on or be left behind.
 

Gobsmacked

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If the game was to invest then France, WA, Wales, cumbria, Jamaica, Nth America, the PI's (domestic ones not aussie born ones), Scandinavia, NT etc etc could all be producing first graders. No end of opportunity, just a lack of strategy and investment.
I love how you snuck WA in there lol .
We're not talking big money to make a massive difference in Jamaica though. Massive, fast guys that just made the last WC with domestic players running on the smell of a oily rag- massive opportunity for a very small investment.

All that you've listed has merit but you can’t grow everywhere all at once. WA will have their very own NRL team soon enough, which is pretty much the pinnacle of League investment and growth.
 

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