old school

[biggin]

can you please give me a list of the old teams and
what they are called know?
i.e balmain tigers and so on?

 

[***MH***]

Balmain Tigers > Sydney Tigers}
Western Suburbs Magpies } merged to become Wests Tigers

St. George Dragons }
Illawarra Steelers } merged to become St. George Illawarra Dragons

Cronulla Sutherland Sharks > Sharks > Cronulla Sutherland Sharks

Canterbury Bankstown Berries > Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs > Sydney Bulldogs > Bulldogs

Eastern Suburbs Tricolours > Eastern Suburbs Roosters > Sydney City Roosters > Sydney Roosters

Manly Warringah Seagulls > Manly Warringah Sea Eagles }
North Sydney Bears } Merged to become Northern Eagles > Divorced and seperated

 

[MEE]

Manly were never known as the Seagulls in an official sense.

 

[Anonymous]

Depends how far you want to go back biggin.
For example, North Sydney were known as 'the Shoremen' before they were the Bears.
I remember reading that they changed their nickname to the Bears following a sponsorship arrangement.

In the 1920s, Saints were known as the Dragons Slayers or the Dragons before the word 'Slayers' simply dropped off.

Tigers were previously known as 'the Black and Golds' or 'the Watersiders'. The Roosters were known as 'the Tricolours'.

Annandale were 'the Dales'. University were 'the Students'. Glebe were 'the Dirty Reds'.

There's a site which has a reasonable list of this:
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/8957/index.htm

 

[DIEHARD]

Brisbane Broncos -> Ergon Energy Broncos :lol:

 

[Zack DLR]

The cumberland fruitpickers....

What a beauty of a name.

 

[wittyfan]

The cumberland fruitpickers....

What a beauty of a name.

:shock: No wonder they lasted the one year. :lol:

 

[CC_Eagle]

Manly were never known as the Seagulls in an official sense.

True. There was a bit of a debate recently on www.oneeyedeagle.com about it. Manly Warringah were never known as "The Seagulls".

 

[***MH***]

Manly were never known as the Seagulls in an official sense.

True. There was a bit of a debate recently on www.oneeyedeagle.com about it. Manly Warringah were never known as "The Seagulls".

(Source: Big League)FIFTY years ago, the official emblem of the Manly-Warringah rugby league club provoked argument in the district. A journalist of the 1950s, Jim Mather, tagged the Seagulls, but long-serving adminstrator Jack Martin insisted that the sea eagle, a native bird along the Sydney coastline, was always the club's official emblem.

interesting to say the least....
here's an excert from "The Bulldog Story" when explaining the history of the Bulldog emblem, comparing to Manly's change....

'Berries' ran off the tounge easily and it was a recognisable catchcry at matches. By the end of 1977, however, the modern game, with its ripe marketing opportunities for licensed characters and merchandising virtually insisted on a link with an animal.
The Bulldog seemed the perfect solution. Like Manly in the late 1960s when they changed their emblem from the sea gull to the more aggressive sea eagle, the switch was to coincide with premiership victories for both clubs.

Can anyone confirm if Manly were officially called the Seagulls???

 

[mightybears]

norths were the shoremen early on when they had to get a ferry across the harbour to play matches!
the bears was a late 1950's thing, the big bear shopping centre at neutral bay i think were the sponsors willow is talking about

most norths fans still just use 'norths'

glebe were the dirty reds
newtown were the bluebags

 

[mightybears]

this comes from hunterlink.net.au, it was last updated in the late 90's and has a real good newcastle comp rundown with brief team histories[again a bit outdated]

Adelaide "Rams" (q.v.)
Annandale (q.v.)
Auckland "Warriors" (q.v.)
Brisbane "Broncos" (q.v.)
Canberra "Raiders" (q.v.)
Canterbury Bankstown "Bulldogs" (q.v.)
Cronulla Sutherland "Sharks" (q.v.)
Cumberland (q.v.)
Glebe "Dirty Reds (q.v.)
Gold Coast "Chargers" (formerly "Seagulls", formerly "Giants") (q.v.)
Hunter "Mariners" (q.v.)
Illawarra "Steelers" (q.v.)
Manly Warringah "Sea Eagles" (q.v.)
Newcastle "Knights" (q.v.)
Newtown "Jets" (formerly "Bluebags") (q.v.)
North Queensland "Cowboys" (q.v.)
North Sydney "Bears" (q.v.)
Parramatta "Eels" (q.v.)
Penrith "Panthers" (q.v.)
South Queensland "Crushers" (q.v.)
South Sydney "Rabittohs" (q.v.)
St George "Dragons" (q.v.)
Sydney City "Roosters" (formerly Eastern Suburbs) (q.v.)
Balmain "Tigers" (q.v.)
University (q.v.)
Western Reds (q.v.)
Western Suburbs "Magpies" (q.v.)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Metropolitan Cup
Arncliffe "Scots" (1963-73)
Asquith (1970-73)
Bankstown "Greyhounds" (1964-65,67-74,90)
Blacktown (1967-75)
Cronulla Carringbah "Sharks" (1963-66) (renamed Cronulla Sutherland in 1965)
Emu Plains (1975)
Guildford "Owls" (1963-65,90-96)
Hills District "Bulls" (1990-95)
Hornsby (1965-67,76)
Illawarra Western Suburbs "Red Devils (1996) (also in the Illawarra competition)
Kellyville (1996)
Kingsford (1963-64)
Liverpool (1963-66,69-73)
Moorebank "Bulldogs" (1992-96) (formerly "Rams" -- or were they a separate teams?)
Mt Pritchard "Mounties" (1990-94)
Newtown "Jets" (1991-96)
Northern Districts (1968-75)
Penrith "Panthers" (1963-66)
Ryde-Eastwood "Hawks" (1963-76,90-96)
Southern Districts (1967)
St Mary's "Saints" (1970-76,91-96)
St Mary's Band (1975)
Sydney University (1963-64,66-76)
University of NSW (1968-76)
UTS "Roosters" (1996)
Wentworthville "Magpies" (1963-73,90-96)
Western Suburbs (1990-92),
Windsor "Wolves" (1974-76,93)

 

[mightybears]

again same link, the newcastle section,
the site continues with the entire country, abeit in detail like the sydney and not newcastle comp

Central Charlestown "Butcher Boys" (1910-present).
Formed as Central Newcastle in 1910, and based in the Hamilton area. As Newcastle grew their area became more and more restricted, and so in 1968 they moved to Charlestown, an area undergoing rapid expansion, and changed their name to Central Charlestown.
Home ground: St John Oval, Whitebridge.
Colours: Blue and white.
Newcastle First Grade Premierships (7): 1910, 1921, 1928, 1930, 1937, 1939, 1949.
Cessnock "Goannas" (1930-present).
Cessnock were formed in 1911 and played for many years in the Hunter District competition. In 1927 Newcastle took over that competition, and in 1930 Cessnock joined the Newcastle competition.
Home ground: Cessnock Sportsground.
Colours: Black and gold.
Newcastle First Grade Premierships (7): 1941, 1950, 1954-1955, 1960, 1972, 1977.
Eastern Suburbs (1912-1942).
Formed as East Newcastle in 1912. Renamed Eastern Suburbs in 1920. Folded in 1942 due to lack of players.
Newcastle First Grade Premierships (5): 1913, 1919 (Northern Branch), 1923, 1924, 1932.
Kurri Workers "Bulldogs" (1927-present).
Kurri Kurri were formed in 1911 and played in the Hunter District competition for many years, playing in the Newcastle first grade in 1918 and 1919. In 1926 Newcastle took over that competition and Kurri Kurri played in the President's Cup of that year, joining the Newcastle competition proper in 1927. In (when?) Kurri Kurri changed their name to Kurri Workers after reaching a financial arrangement with the Kurri Kurri Workers club.
Home ground: Kurri Sportsground.
Colours: Red, blue and white.
Hunter District A Grade Premierships (3): 1911, 1913, 1921.
Newcastle First Grade Premierships (6): 1931, 1940, 1945, 1993-1994-1995.
Lakes United "Seagulls" (1947-present).
Lakes United joined the competition in 1947 and won in their first year.
Home ground: Cahill Oval, Belmont.
Colours: Blue and gold.
Newcastle First Grade Premierships (6): 1947, 1974-1975, 1985-1986-1987.
Maitland United (1927-1942).
Maitland United were formed from an amalgamation of Maitland based clubs in (?when?) and played in the Hunter District competition. They joined the Newcastle competition in 1927 after the former was absorbed by the latter. They were merged with Morpeth East Maitland at the end of 1942 to become Maitland.
Newcastle First Grade Premierships (2): 1933-1934.
Maitland "Pumpkin Pickers" (1943-present).
Maitland was formed from a merger of the Morpeth East Maitland and Maitland United clubs, as a result of a reduction in clubs in 1942.
Home ground: Maitland Sportsground.
Colours: Black and white.
Newcastle First Grade Premierships (8): 1956-1957-1958, 1965, 1969, 1971, 1973, 1983.
Morpeth-East Maitland (1927-1942).
Played in the Hunter District competition prior to 1927. Entered first grade in 1927. Folded in 1942 due to lack of players, and were merged with Maitland United to form Maitland.
North Newcastle "Bluebags" (1910-1988).
Formed as Northern Suburbs in 1908, based at Tighes Hill. Renamed North Newcastle in 1983. Financial difficulties and very poor on field results saw them merge with Lower Hunter club Nelson Bay in 1989 to become North Nelson Bay. North Newcastle still plays in the Lower Hunter competition.
Home Ground: Passmore Oval, Islington.
Colours: Dark and light blue.
Newcastle First Grade Premierships (15): 1911, 1914, 1920, 1925-1926, 1929, 1935, 1938, 1948, 1951, 1953, 1959, 1962, 1967, 1979.
North Nelson Bay "Marlins" (1989-present).
Formed from the merger of North Newcastle with second division Nelson Bay "Marlins" in 1989.
Home ground: Anna Bay Oval, Anna Bay.
Colours: Dark and light blue trimmed with gold.
Newcastle First Grade Premierships: None.
South Newcastle "Lions" (1910-present).
One of the founding clubs and still going strong.
Home ground: Townson Oval, Merewether.
Colours: White with red.
Newcastle First Grade Premierships (10): 1919 (Northern District), 1927, 1943, 1946, 1963-1964, 1968, 1976, 1988-1989.
Macquarie United "Scorpions" (1960-present).
Toronto joined the Newcastle competition from the Central Coast competition in 1960. They changed their name to Macquarie United in 1963. They changed their name to Toronto Workers in (when?) after reaching a financial arrangement with the Toronto Workers Club. Flagging support saw them change in back to Macquarie United in 1998.
Home ground: Lyell Peacock Field, Toronto.
Colours: Green and gold.
Newcastle First Grade Premierships (1): 1991.
Waratah-Mayfield "Cheetahs" (1927-present).
Waratah Mayfield have been around since the early days of the Newcastle competition, but were not admitted to the First Grade competition until 1927, when Newcastle took over the Hunter District competition.
Home ground: Waratah Oval.
Colours: Maroon and gold.
Newcastle First Grade Premierships (5): 1936, 1942, 1944, 1952, 1990.
Western Suburbs "Rosellas" (1910-present).
Formed in 1910 and still going strong.
Home ground: Harker Oval, Lambton.
Colours: red and green.
Newcastle First Grade Premierships (14): 1912, 1915-1916, 1922, 1961, 1966, 1970, 1978, 1980-1981-1982, 1984, 1992, 1997.

 

[Anonymous]

norths were the shoremen early on when they had to get a ferry across the harbour to play matches!
the bears was a late 1950's thing, the big bear shopping centre at neutral bay i think were the sponsors willow is talking about

most norths fans still just use 'norths'

glebe were the dirty reds
newtown were the bluebags

There was also an interesting side note in the 1920s when St George were known to make the trip to North Sydney by catching the ferry from Sans Souci, which went up the coast and then into the harbour.
Don't know how long this went on for.
Apparently it was a relatively cheap and comfortable way to travel and involved a full day (or overnight?) getting there, playing, and then getting back.
Hard to imagine now.

 

[CC_Eagle]

Manly were never known as the Seagulls in an official sense.

True. There was a bit of a debate recently on www.oneeyedeagle.com about it. Manly Warringah were never known as "The Seagulls".

(Source: Big League)FIFTY years ago, the official emblem of the Manly-Warringah rugby league club provoked argument in the district. A journalist of the 1950s, Jim Mather, tagged the Seagulls, but long-serving adminstrator Jack Martin insisted that the sea eagle, a native bird along the Sydney coastline, was always the club's official emblem.

interesting to say the least....
here's an excert from "The Bulldog Story" when explaining the history of the Bulldog emblem, comparing to Manly's change....

'Berries' ran off the tounge easily and it was a recognisable catchcry at matches. By the end of 1977, however, the modern game, with its ripe marketing opportunities for licensed characters and merchandising virtually insisted on a link with an animal.
The Bulldog seemed the perfect solution. Like Manly in the late 1960s when they changed their emblem from the sea gull to the more aggressive sea eagle, the switch was to coincide with premiership victories for both clubs.

Can anyone confirm if Manly were officially called the Seagulls???

Officially no, and that source confirms it as the "seagull" tag was only given to the side by a journo. Officially it has always been a "sea eagle".

 

[***MH***]

Manly were never known as the Seagulls in an official sense.

True. There was a bit of a debate recently on www.oneeyedeagle.com about it. Manly Warringah were never known as "The Seagulls".

(Source: Big League)FIFTY years ago, the official emblem of the Manly-Warringah rugby league club provoked argument in the district. A journalist of the 1950s, Jim Mather, tagged the Seagulls, but long-serving adminstrator Jack Martin insisted that the sea eagle, a native bird along the Sydney coastline, was always the club's official emblem.

interesting to say the least....
here's an excert from "The Bulldog Story" when explaining the history of the Bulldog emblem, comparing to Manly's change....

'Berries' ran off the tounge easily and it was a recognisable catchcry at matches. By the end of 1977, however, the modern game, with its ripe marketing opportunities for licensed characters and merchandising virtually insisted on a link with an animal.
The Bulldog seemed the perfect solution. Like Manly in the late 1960s when they changed their emblem from the sea gull to the more aggressive sea eagle, the switch was to coincide with premiership victories for both clubs.

Can anyone confirm if Manly were officially called the Seagulls???

Officially no, and that source confirms it as the "seagull" tag was only given to the side by a journo. Officially it has always been a "sea eagle".

That still doesn't explain what the bulldog story stated about manly.... are there any manly history books that may explain this???
_________________
which one should i keep?

 

[CULLUS.ONLINE]

Intresting question:

why does parramatta have the eel as it mascot?









if you dont know, its because Parramatta is the aboriginal word for "where eels come to rest"
hence: the Parramatta Eels

 

[rossy]

'Berries' ran off the tounge easily and it was a recognisable catchcry at matches. By the end of 1977, however, the modern game, with its ripe marketing opportunities for licensed characters and merchandising virtually insisted on a link with an animal.
The Bulldog seemed the perfect solution.

I seem to recall that the Berries became known as the Bulldogs in the lead-up to the 1974 grand final. The run through the semis had the team show a certain tenacity and a bulldog like performance as far as I remember. They became officially the dogs in '77 but had been unofficially called that for a couple of years. Anyone else remember that time?

 

[gunnamatta bay]

http://www.rl1908.com

 

[Zack DLR]

The cumberland fruitpickers....

What a beauty of a name.

correction, western suburbs fruit pickers

 

[***MH***]

Intresting question:

why does parramatta have the eel as it mascot?









if you dont know, its because Parramatta is the aboriginal word for "where eels come to rest"
hence: the Parramatta Eels

i thought it may have had something to do with beastiality and what they do with them.... oops!