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Omg - Rugby 2004

angelus

Juniors
Messages
198
I played Rugby 2004 tonight. Worse thing I have ever played. The camera work actually gave me a headache. Super Nintendo games compare to the graphics. EA Sports 2001 was so much better, and even it was crap. Man, me loves this. Everyone will hate the Rugby game and buy League!
 

umosay

Juniors
Messages
341
they put all there work into making too many crap stadiums and teams. they think because they added all these teams that everyone would be happy, but the gameplay is pretty bad.
 

Blunty

Juniors
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255
You guys are harsh. Rugby 2004 is one of the most realistis games I've ever played, the rucks and stuff are amazing. It is 100 percent better than 2001, I think it is a quality game. I played the Rugby League Demo and it was terrible, just quietly. If you actually liked Rugby then you would understand that Rugby 2004 is a great game.
 

PARRA_FAN

Coach
Messages
17,671
Rugby 2004 is ok, but if you want a good game with cool and realistic graphics, Rugby League is the game to get. I just cant wait for it to be released.
 

angelus

Juniors
Messages
198
I like Rugby, but this game is terrible. Don't deny it just because you paid whatever you did for it. Rugby 2004 = waste of hard earned cash.

/me is so glad he didn't buy Rugby 2004 before trying it.

P.S. Rugby League demo = year old and is no way indicative of the final release. Rugby 2004 still feels like a first beta.
 

Blunty

Juniors
Messages
255
I don't agree with you mate. Rugby 2004 is a quality game. It has realistic gamneplay and rucks and just because you may be a little worse at it doesn't mean it is bad.
 

Wigan Warrior

Juniors
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132
Rugby 2004 is a pile of cr@p,face facts. All i can say is that if your satisfied with that your easily pleased.

For instance,do you think its quality when you score a try and the commentator is still on about a big tackle that happened 30 seconds ago?

Do you thinks its quality how after a conversion the camera freezes on the corner of the ground for what seems like an age?

Do you think its quality how the crowd dont react to on the field incidents?

Do you think its quality how the ball bounces as though its got a big spring inside it?

These are just a few annoying things that come into my head at this moment.There are loads more.

I have to question what sort of games you are used to playing if you seriously think Rugby 2004 is quality.
 

Goleel

Juniors
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864
Rugby 2004 suffers from the worst fate that could befall a game. It is boring. So very, very boring. There is one way to score a try, that is spread the ball wide and run around the opposition. Kicking, passing and rucking are all incredibly poor, kicking especially, but the lofty passes are terrible, and the rucks, well, if you think they are well done, you are easily pleased, because personally, I like some control over what is going on.

The loading times (over 30secs to get to the menu on PS2) are unacceptable, the commentary is perhaps the worst i've ever heard, and I am really having trouble finding good things to say about it. I can't play more than two games in a row now, because it gets that boring. And the offside rule, I can't believe more people don't complain about that, every second ruck is pulled up for offside, what crap is that? Then you just have to add the crap goalkicking, dodgy graphics and pathetic weather conditions (and uniform wear and tear) and you have one pile of steaming crap of a game.

It is NOT realistic, it is NOT an accurate simulation of rugby, it does a few things right and a lot of things wrong. I don't remember rugby players being as geniused as the AI in Rugby 2004 simulates them as.
 

Blunty

Juniors
Messages
255
You must be very bad at this game mate. I'm not going to get in an argument with you because all of the things you just described don't happen if you are good at the game. If you control your players around the rucks and post up like in real life no one will be offside. You can control you rucks, and not just score outwide, actually you can do a forward hit up and score with them. That is how you playt rugby mate, you don't have to run around the opposition to score trust me, if that is the only way you score then no wonder it is boring for you. If you took the time to find out how to play properly and get good at it like me, then you would understand how much control you actually have over the game. You can practically do watever you want with your guys, including attempts of handling in the rucks which sometimes get penalised. How about before you bad mouth a game you sit down and read the instructions and get good at the damn game first. It is impossible to run around your opposition on HARD, so you obviously are playing EASY I guess. To make this game good you must actually know how to play it properly mate. Forward hit up is R2 and L2 on ps2, and this allows you to set it up and drag in backs creating an overlap, not running around them. In easy you may be able to run around people, but until you play this game properly don't come crying back here trying to bad mouth. I do agree that the Commentary is pathetic but you get that on some games, the goal kicking is not bad. It is high quality and if you actually knew how to kick then you would again understand that it is a realistic progression.
 
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well the makers could of atleast got players names and positions right.

sam tuipolotu does not play no 12 for the blues ,Sam Tuitupou does.

Also lote tuquiri playing on the side of the scrum fot the nz maoris that is laughable.
 

Goleel

Juniors
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864
How about you don't jump to conclusions and presumptions about how good or bad I am at the game before you go and badmouth me, because it makes you sound like a d**khead.

Yeah, I'm not any good at the game, that's why I don't like it. Ignore that I've won a world cup and tri-nations on hard, and still find the game boring as all heck. Ignore that I've beaten Australia with Namibia, on hard, like the challenges ask. All the things I have described happen in the game, the offside rule especially happens very regularly, and ruins a lot of multiplayer games. Sure, I can bring them all back onside, but why should I have to do that? The AI put the players offside to start with, it should be able to bring em back, but no, its too dumb to do that, so they just tiptoe like they're walking on glass to get back onside, or just stand around the ruck looking stupid, wondering why they have to run all the way around behind the ruck, stand there for a while, then eventually pile on once the ball has obviously been won by the opposition.

The only times I've scored with forward hitups are from so close to the line that my grandmother could barge over, or playing good teams against terrible ones and busting the line and getting through cleanly with speed. Sure, you can make good ground from hitups if you spot a gap to one side of the ruck and bolt through, but that's mainly because the defense is so poor.

The rucks, well, if you think you have control, good on you. For all the pressing of square to add players into the ruck, most of the time they dawdle behind the ruck, wait until the opposition has pushed their teammates over the ball, then just tack themselves onto the back of the ruck.

Do you have so much control over the players that if you try any type of pass inside half the time it will go to nobody and sit on the ground, while both teams run around randomly, until two players magically turn stiff as a board and glide towards the ball? Picking up the ball off the ground is ridiculous, but of course, because I'm not 'good' at this game, that's why the ball goes to ground. Well that would be correct, if 'good' means 'figuring out exactly what situations the game can't handle when you want to pass to someone and avoiding them, limiting you to spreading the ball wide or taking a hitup'.

I understand how to kick a goal, it isn't very difficult. What I'm complaining about is the lack of control over the curve of the ball, the stupid arrow you have to use, and the power bar. The Rugby 2001 system was fine, why change it? Not to mention any goalkicker with a rating under 80 spraying the ball wide on a regular basis.

So mate, before you try and come off all big and mighty defending a game you like for some reason that is beyond my understanding, how about you realise you win arguments by actually MAKING points about why the game is good, rather than criticising my ability at the game. I have spent a fair while playing it now, and I wouldn't make my opinion on it public if I wasn't confident I had seen all the game has to offer. You have made continual points that I haven't played the game enough, play it on easy, and am crap at the game, which are all untrue. I can run around teams on easy, normal and hard, on hard, I just score three or four tries a game using it rather than 11 or 12.

Fact remains, the game bores me. The gameplay is repetative and mundane, defense is an absolute chore, since you have little control in forcing a turnover and the AI plays boring possession rugby without doing anything creative at all, and gets all its field position from random turnovers in the ruck or when the AI mysteriously drops a sitter of a pass, throws a forward pass from the ruck (which happens too often for my liking) or throws a pass from the ruck that goes nowhere and hits the ground, and then its anyones guess where it'll end up.

Also, I got sin binned for a forward pass. Yeah, this game is good. Real good.
 

tHe_MaC

Juniors
Messages
358
Does Blunty work for EA or what?
It's the biggest pile of crap since cricket 2002.

And No, I'm not a "spastic" at the game, one of it's main flaws is that its soooooooo easy.
 

Special K

Coach
Messages
19,520
The game is fun with mates. It gets boring towards the end of halfs though..

But once you look past the shit graphics you can score some bloody cool tries.
 

angelus

Juniors
Messages
198
The thing that made me laugh was the kicking for touch after a penalty. The balls flying through the air and the changes directions as if it's gonna come through the screen and falcon you. The camera work is so shotty and I literally got a headache after playing it for a few minutes. The crowd, what more can I say. I know crowds aren't great in most games, but these guys look like plasticine men.
 

legend

Coach
Messages
15,150
I don't agree with you mate. Rugby 2004 is a quality game. It has realistikc gamneplay and rucks and just because you may be a spastic at it doesn't mean it is bad.

Please don't refer to people as "Spastics" Blunty.

Talk as much rubbish as you want but leave these sort of insults at the door if you don't mind.

I'd also ask you to edit your post and remove that word otherwise it will be done for you.

Cheers.
 

Moffo

Referee
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Goleel said:
How about you don't jump to conclusions and presumptions about how good or bad I am at the game before you go and badmouth me, because it makes you sound like a d**khead.

Yeah, I'm not any good at the game, that's why I don't like it. Ignore that I've won a world cup and tri-nations on hard, and still find the game boring as all heck. Ignore that I've beaten Australia with Namibia, on hard, like the challenges ask. All the things I have described happen in the game, the offside rule especially happens very regularly, and ruins a lot of multiplayer games. Sure, I can bring them all back onside, but why should I have to do that? The AI put the players offside to start with, it should be able to bring em back, but no, its too dumb to do that, so they just tiptoe like they're walking on glass to get back onside, or just stand around the ruck looking stupid, wondering why they have to run all the way around behind the ruck, stand there for a while, then eventually pile on once the ball has obviously been won by the opposition.

The only times I've scored with forward hitups are from so close to the line that my grandmother could barge over, or playing good teams against terrible ones and busting the line and getting through cleanly with speed. Sure, you can make good ground from hitups if you spot a gap to one side of the ruck and bolt through, but that's mainly because the defense is so poor.

The rucks, well, if you think you have control, good on you. For all the pressing of square to add players into the ruck, most of the time they dawdle behind the ruck, wait until the opposition has pushed their teammates over the ball, then just tack themselves onto the back of the ruck.

Do you have so much control over the players that if you try any type of pass inside half the time it will go to nobody and sit on the ground, while both teams run around randomly, until two players magically turn stiff as a board and glide towards the ball? Picking up the ball off the ground is ridiculous, but of course, because I'm not 'good' at this game, that's why the ball goes to ground. Well that would be correct, if 'good' means 'figuring out exactly what situations the game can't handle when you want to pass to someone and avoiding them, limiting you to spreading the ball wide or taking a hitup'.

I understand how to kick a goal, it isn't very difficult. What I'm complaining about is the lack of control over the curve of the ball, the stupid arrow you have to use, and the power bar. The Rugby 2001 system was fine, why change it? Not to mention any goalkicker with a rating under 80 spraying the ball wide on a regular basis.

So mate, before you try and come off all big and mighty defending a game you like for some reason that is beyond my understanding, how about you realise you win arguments by actually MAKING points about why the game is good, rather than criticising my ability at the game. I have spent a fair while playing it now, and I wouldn't make my opinion on it public if I wasn't confident I had seen all the game has to offer. You have made continual points that I haven't played the game enough, play it on easy, and am crap at the game, which are all untrue. I can run around teams on easy, normal and hard, on hard, I just score three or four tries a game using it rather than 11 or 12.

Fact remains, the game bores me. The gameplay is repetative and mundane, defense is an absolute chore, since you have little control in forcing a turnover and the AI plays boring possession rugby without doing anything creative at all, and gets all its field position from random turnovers in the ruck or when the AI mysteriously drops a sitter of a pass, throws a forward pass from the ruck (which happens too often for my liking) or throws a pass from the ruck that goes nowhere and hits the ground, and then its anyones guess where it'll end up.

Also, I got sin binned for a forward pass. Yeah, this game is good. Real good.

:lol: i havent even played the game but i was laughing throughout the whole post. U can get sinbinned for a forward pass? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cheers,
Moffo
 

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