ORCAS

[dimitri]

my first question is what is an orca?


ok

the nzrl has contacted the nrl about establishing a 2nd team, known as the wellington or southern orcas, claiming the idea has the backing of a belgian billionaire
the team would be up against the gold coast and central coast for an nrl spot

If i was the nrl id be trying to renegotiate the tv rights so that we get what we deserve


then once we have extra cash, from tv, from sponosrs and wherever else


we should let all 3 of them in


all 3 teams have billionaire backers

and all 3 teams could be very successful


i know in 1995 we let in 4 teams

and 2 of them were kicked out

but these 3 teams all have the potential and all have the backers


so come on nrl

get the money

and hurry this along


this is a huge opportunity for rugby league

 

[cheese]

an orca is a killer whale .....

 

[dimitri]

an orca is a killer whale .....

do they have any particular relevance


to nz/wellington

 

[dimitri]

does anyone know if the nzrl will have anything to do with the club


because they are the ones who contacted the nrl about establishing a 2nd team

 

[cheese]

an orca is a killer whale .....

do they have any particular relevance


to nz/wellington

wales are a significant part of the maori culture....

 

[southern warrior]

well im sure the nzrl would help organise the new club.

 

[ali]

We shouldn't bring in all 3 at the same time. Otherwise they will have years of struggle ahead of them as they wont be able to all get as good a crack at the player market as they could by themselves. I'd have Wellington 2005, Gold Coast 2006, and if necessary Central Coast 2007, but I still stink we don't need another NRL team around Sydney.

Surely with the success of the Warriors and if a new Kiwi team was to join the League, we could get more money out of Sky NZ. Does anyone know when the contract with Sky NZ runs out?

 

[Special K]

I would love to see all 3 teams in and I think we will see them in over time. But I also think each club should have to give up a player that has played a certain amount of games to help these new teams and that these new teams should have higher salary caps. Melbourne should also have a higher Salary Cap...

 

[Tupac Shakur]

It would be great for Rugby League to enter 3 more teams into the NRL especially a Central Coast team..

 

[Raider_69]

I would love to see all 3 teams in and I think we will see them in over time. But I also think each club should have to give up a player that has played a certain amount of games to help these new teams and that these new teams should have higher salary caps. Melbourne should also have a higher Salary Cap...

i dont think teams should have to, rather a volentry draft, i.e say you have one year left on your contract you can seek a release form the NRL rather than the club to join the new team..... forceing teams to give up players would create a team of unhappy players

 

[dimitri]

We shouldn't bring in all 3 at the same time. Otherwise they will have years of struggle ahead of them as they wont be able to all get as good a crack at the player market as they could by themselves. I'd have Wellington 2005, Gold Coast 2006, and if necessary Central Coast 2007, but I still stink we don't need another NRL team around Sydney.

i agree totally

 

[Special K]

I would love to see all 3 teams in and I think we will see them in over time. But I also think each club should have to give up a player that has played a certain amount of games to help these new teams and that these new teams should have higher salary caps. Melbourne should also have a higher Salary Cap...

i dont think teams should have to, rather a volentry draft, i.e say you have one year left on your contract you can seek a release form the NRL rather than the club to join the new team..... forceing teams to give up players would create a team of unhappy players

Players would do that any way as they do it now. But if each club had to give up a player that has played say 30 first grade games then it would help these new teams a lot as they would be also able to add these blokes to their jnrs and players they sign.

 

[Raider_69]

I would love to see all 3 teams in and I think we will see them in over time. But I also think each club should have to give up a player that has played a certain amount of games to help these new teams and that these new teams should have higher salary caps. Melbourne should also have a higher Salary Cap...

i dont think teams should have to, rather a volentry draft, i.e say you have one year left on your contract you can seek a release form the NRL rather than the club to join the new team..... forceing teams to give up players would create a team of unhappy players

Players would do that any way as they do it now. But if each club had to give up a player that has played say 30 first grade games then it would help these new teams a lot as they would be also able to add these blokes to their jnrs and players they sign.

but then say joe bloggs has played 31 games for his childhood favourite team, he is then given the shaft by his club and also is told who he would play for....... if i were joe bloggs i would be pretty pissed off

and rookie draft with draft handicaps would be much more feasible IMO, new teams or teams with no junoir base i.e melbourne would gain a handicap to ensure they stay strong

 

[dimitri]

havent drafts been deemed illegal by the courts??????


:? :? :?

 

[Raider_69]

havent drafts been deemed illegal by the courts??????


:? :? :?

umm i think mandatory drafts have but what Rookie wouldnt put themselves in a draft at hopes they may acheive their dreams?

The AFL use a draft system quite effectivly

 

[Special K]

I would love to see all 3 teams in and I think we will see them in over time. But I also think each club should have to give up a player that has played a certain amount of games to help these new teams and that these new teams should have higher salary caps. Melbourne should also have a higher Salary Cap...

i dont think teams should have to, rather a volentry draft, i.e say you have one year left on your contract you can seek a release form the NRL rather than the club to join the new team..... forceing teams to give up players would create a team of unhappy players

Players would do that any way as they do it now. But if each club had to give up a player that has played say 30 first grade games then it would help these new teams a lot as they would be also able to add these blokes to their jnrs and players they sign.

but then say joe bloggs has played 31 games for his childhood favourite team, he is then given the shaft by his club and also is told who he would play for....... if i were joe bloggs i would be pretty pissed off

and rookie draft with draft handicaps would be much more feasible IMO, new teams or teams with no junoir base i.e melbourne would gain a handicap to ensure they stay strong

Super League teams did it, didn't they?

and as for the rookie draft I don't know about that. Say newcastle(or any club this is a hypothetical) have Joey, Robbie o and say a 2nd rower go down with injuries. Now if this rookie draft was in place would this mean they couldn't use their gun jnr aus reps who play half, fullback and 2nd row? It would cause so much bitching with clubs. Or would these rookies not be in a NRL club area? :? And if they were that good why wouldn't clubs signed them up before hand?

A trade system would be cool. With struggling clubs selling players or trading them, but I doubt the players would let that happen.

 

[Te Kaha]

Surely with the success of the Warriors and if a new Kiwi team was to join the League, we could get more money out of Sky NZ. Does anyone know when the contract with Sky NZ runs out?

Doubtful, The market is two small for a bidding war. Sky's bid was far and away greater than any other. Even the FTA rights on-sold from Sky only raised a minor ripple when TV 3 pulled out and prime outbid TVNZ.

Besides Sky bids for the NRL not the Warriors.

 

[dimitri]

a wellington team is sure to build up league support in nz

 

[t-ba]

Call them Moa's. of all the Creatures humans have wiped out, a two story tall flightlesss bird that could kill a human with ease needs to be an NRL mascot!

 

[Bobby DIGital]

Call them Moa's. of all the Creatures humans have wiped out, a two story tall flightlesss bird that could kill a human with ease needs to be an NRL mascot!

lol very true