Organised crime and drugs in sport investigation part III

[magpie4ever]

i have

they cancelled interviews

and nothing happened to the Bulldogs. not one player charged

so what is your point?

It is called image for a code that just signed a billion $+ tv rights deal.

As said before, I'm surprised Cullen allowed it to happen.

 

[El Diablo]

FMD

you deadshits will whinge about anything

next you'll whinge about suit colour or his tie doesn't match

 

[El Diablo]

which tie knot will make you gents happy?

Four-in-hand
Double Knot
Windsor Knot
Half Windsor
Small Knot
Bow Tie
Humour Knot

 

[El Diablo]

what if he turns up in a g banger with a bow tie and a top hat wearing stilettos?

 

[ek999]

How about you answer this clearly. Are ASADA sooks because the interviews have been called off for the week

 

[El Diablo]

be nice if you put a question mark

and ASADA are sooks

Richard Ings ‏@ringsau https://twitter.com/ringsau/status/328842913767374849
@AndrewVoss9 The questions are serious & need to be resolved. Omertà & ASADA being picky is not putting the sport and fans first.

 

[ek999]

Still not evidence of being sooks. Ings (is he credible? You have bagged the shit out of him before). Just says they are being picky on the level of cooperation. You could easily make the argument that the players are being picky and sooks. But that wouldn't suit your agenda of it all being a conspiracy

 

[El Diablo]

the evidence is the cancelled interviews ](*,)

 

[ek999]

Because they still couldn't agree on the level of cooperation required of the players. What point is there interviewing players this week when they will have to interview them again later

 

[El Diablo]

why do they need to interview when they claim to have enough evidence anyway?

ASADA should just charge players if thry have it

 

[myanonymoususername]

The NRL anti-doping policy says this about co-operating with ASADA:

Further obligations of Athletes
230. All Athletes to whom this ADP applies:

(8) submit to authority of WADA, ASADA and us, to apply, police and enforce this ADP;
(9) provide all reasonable assistance to WADA, ASADA and us, in the application, policing
and enforcement of this ADP, including (without limitation) cooperating fully with any
investigation or proceeding being conducted pursuant to this ADP in relation to any
suspected ADRV;

So "reasonable assistance" includes "cooperating fully". It'd be interesting to see how the lawyers try to narrow that down.

A couple of other things I found interesting while skimming through the policy:

WADC 3.1: Burdens and Standards of Proof
48. The Anti-Doping Organization shall have the burden of establishing that an anti-doping rule violation has occurred. The standard of proof shall be whether the Anti-Doping Organization has established an anti-doping rule violation to the comfortable satisfaction of the hearing panel bearing in mind the seriousness of the allegation which is made. This standard of proof in all cases is greater than a mere balance of probability but less than proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

So the standard of proof required is lower than in a criminal case.

WADC 10.6: Aggravating Circumstances Which May Increase the Period of
Ineligibility
164. WADC 10.6: If the Anti-Doping Organization establishes in an individual case involving an anti-doping rule violation other than violations under Article 2.7 (Trafficking or Attempted Trafficking) and 2.8 (Administration or Attempted Administration) that aggravating circumstances are present which justify the imposition of a period of Ineligibility greater than the standard sanction, then the period of Ineligibility otherwise applicable shall be increased up to a maximum of four years unless the Athlete or other Person can prove to the comfortable satisfaction of the hearing panel that he did not knowingly violate the antidoping rule.
An Athlete or other Person can avoid the application of this Article by admitting the antidoping rule violation as asserted promptly after being confronted with the anti-doping rule violation by an Anti-Doping Organization.

And there is the possibility of getting more than the standard 2 year ban in some circumstances.

 

[magpie4ever]

The NRL anti-doping policy says this about co-operating with ASADA:



So "reasonable assistance" includes "cooperating fully". It'd be interesting to see how the lawyers try to narrow that down.

A couple of other things I found interesting while skimming through the policy:



So the standard of proof required is lower than in a criminal case.



And there is the possibility of getting more than the standard 2 year ban in some circumstances.

Good post, highly informative.

 

[docbrown]

81 days since the "Darkest Day In Australian Sport"

 

[Fire]

 

[Eion]

Is it the hat backwards that yells 'thug'?

I wouldn't mind betting the hat and glasses came off during the interview. But if not, f**k them. Everyone else has shown nothing but contempt for this whole charade, why not wade too. And for those making bulldogs comparisons, call me old fashioned but I suggest sexual assault allegations as slightly more serious than a couple of weeks of maybe taking pills that were maybe, possibly banned.

 

[Perth Red]

more importantly than the drugs, why do grown men insist on wearing baseball caps backwards like some 12 year old american kid?

 

[magpie4ever]

Fire, you kill me.:lol::lol:

 

[magpie4ever]

Is it the hat backwards that yells 'thug'?

I wouldn't mind betting the hat and glasses came off during the interview. But if not, f**k them. Everyone else has shown nothing but contempt for this whole charade, why not wade too. And for those making bulldogs comparisons, call me old fashioned but I suggest sexual assault allegations as slightly more serious than a couple of weeks of maybe taking pills that were maybe, possibly banned.

"Old fashioned" - you asked me too.

 

[magpie4ever]

more importantly than the drugs, why do grown men insist on wearing baseball caps backwards like some 12 year old american kid?

Might be a side effect on peptide usage - regress to one's childhood.

 

[Matchball]

I would go dressed the same way.
No need to show asda any respect or courtesy, they haven't.