Organised crime and drugs in sport investigation part III

[ek999]

Still trying to wrap my head around how this all works.

So the internal report doesn't even need to be submitted to ASADA, just AFL?

I imagine with their savvy legal & media team if they can remove ASADA from the equation they will. Just hand out some penalties (lighter penalties will be excusable because of their timeliness) and put it behind them.

Guess AFL players are less uppity than NRL counterparts and won't try and take on the might of their sport with an appeal either. They will cop it for the good of the game; be hailed as heros by their media on return.

Have all faith in D. Smith, he will be watching how the AFL situation unfolds. Could do a lot worse than following their lead.

You can't get rid of ASADA unless they want to lose all government funding. AFL players aren't going to get off with lighter punishments. All that will do is cause WADA to step in and enforce stricter penalties

 

[Diesel]

It's better to have Smith in charge than Gallop who was strung long by News. At least he won't allow the AFL to get away with anything and he's stopped the leaks as well. I think we'll come out of this a lot better than if this was 2011

 

[El Diablo]

I think they are already interviewing Essendon

nope

 

[Garbler]

You can't get rid of ASADA unless they want to lose all government funding. AFL players aren't going to get off with lighter punishments. All that will do is cause WADA to step in and enforce stricter penalties

Can WADA step in like that?

The AFL will act based on both ASADA info & internal report and hand out penalties accordingly. The AFL has a frustrating way of smelling like roses no matter what the situation, and I'm sure they will manage to get their players/staff off on as light as they can while appeasing ASASA/ACC/WADA whoever.

Im afraid that we will arguing and bickering about the drugs scandal & sponsors will be staying away from our great game long after they have put it behind them. Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[ek999]

nope

That isn't what old Caroline Wilson is saying

ASADA, in conjunction with the AFL, will continue interviewing Essendon officials and coaches this week with the Bombers' current and former players not scheduled to front investigators until next week. The Essendon leadership group, headed by captain Jobe Watson, will be the first to be interviewed.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bombers-receive-findings-20130429-2ip1o.html#ixzz2RtmcnH7 ​

 

[Garbler]

Guess the AFL are also more cowardly they will sacrifice truth for appearances. I wouldn't expect NRL to hand out penalties if ASADA haven't made a compelling case. Just wish ASADA would make a case actually, instead of f**k!ng around.

 

[ek999]

Can WADA step in like that?

The AFL will act based on both ASADA info & internal report and hand out penalties accordingly. The AFL has a frustrating way of smelling like roses no matter what the situation, and I'm sure they will manage to get their players/staff off on as light as they can while appeasing ASASA/ACC/WADA whoever.

Im afraid that we will arguing and bickering about the drugs scandal & sponsors will be staying away from our great game long after they have put it behind them. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Im 99% sure its the case. Can't be bothered trying to find a link to support it so I could be wrong. But both the NRL and AFL have to abide by the WADA code including penalties handed out

 

[El Diablo]

That isn't what old Caroline Wilson is saying

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bombers-receive-findings-20130429-2ip1o.html#ixzz2RtmcnH7 ​

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...-bombers-players/story-e6frf3e3-1226631398784

 

[ek999]

My point exactly. They are interviewing officials this week and starting with players next week. Therefore they are currently interviewing at Essendon at the moment

 

[Canard]

Still trying to wrap my head around how this all works.

So the internal report doesn't even need to be submitted to ASADA, just AFL?

I imagine with their savvy legal & media team if they can remove ASADA from the equation they will. Just hand out some penalties (lighter penalties will be excusable because of their timeliness) and put it behind them.

Guess AFL players are less uppity than NRL counterparts and won't try and take on the might of their sport with an appeal either. They will cop it for the good of the game; be hailed as heros by their media on return.

Have all faith in D. Smith, he will be watching how the AFL situation unfolds. Could do a lot worse than following their lead.

I expect the AFL think this will lessen the punishment from ASADA, and also garner public support.

Whether this happens remains to be seen, but I still see it as a pretty savvy PR exercise.

The HUGE difference is that they have the media on there side, and not throwing hand grenades at it every day.

 

[CrazyTiger]

Peptides a cancer relapse risk, expert says
EXCLUSIVE by Andrew Carswell
The Daily Telegraph
April 30, 2013 12:00AM

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An expert says peptides put cancer patients at risk of relapse. Source: The Daily Telegraph

EXPOSING former cancer patients to peptides would put them at considerable risk of relapsing, according to the nation's pre-eminent expert on human growth hormones.

Professor Kenneth Ho, an endocrinologist at the Centres of Health Research, Princess Alexandra Hospital, Brisbane, confirmed yesterday the link between the banned substances at the centre of an NRL and AFL drugs storm and the growth of cancer cells.

He said the stimulation of growth factors called IGF-1 - which peptides CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 are designed to do - would put the patient at risk of accelerating the growth of the cancer, whether it be a tumour or blood-based disease.

It is the expert medical opinion that will put further pressure on sports authorities and the Cronulla Sharks after controversial sports doctor Stephen Dank admitted star Jon Mannah was given peptides while he played with the NRL club, just two years after he was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma.

Mannah had a relapse in 2011 and died in January this year. Dank claimed he had sought the advice of an oncologist and was assured the peptides were safe to use.

"If someone unknowingly, had an established cancer and is given such a peptide, what is the risk of propagating cancer growth? Based on the property of growth hormones, there is a risk that cancer growth can be propagated," Professor Ho said. Asked whether a patient was placing themselves at "considerable risk" taking these peptides if they previously suffered from cancer, he said: "Correct".

"If the question is, what influence does growth hormones have on the growth of cancer cells then the answer is growth hormones will have a positive, stimulatory affect on the growth of cancer cells, simply because that is its property. It causes cells to grow and multiply. Whether you are taking about skin cells, blood cells, brain cells, lung cells - they all grow under the influence of IGF-1."

Professor Ho has been at the forefront of research into the use and function of human growth hormones. His research has given doping controllers greater ability to detect the use of peptides; while his study in 2010 discovered for the first time that HGH significantly improved athletic performance in sprinters.

He said yesterday that such was the potent nature of growth hormones' effect on cancer cells it was considered safe medical practice only to give hormone replacement therapy to cancer patients who had been in remission for more than five years.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...risk-expert-says/story-e6frexrr-1226631880125

"controversial sports doctor Stephen Dank admitted star Jon Mannah was given peptides"

 

[Garbler]

Not sure Professor Kenneth Ho's views are widely known/agreed upon amongst his peers if the Cancer Council and Syd uni professor John Baxter are anything to go by. I don't doubt they're all right - the only one in the wrong is the Telecrap, this article is no way redeems them for their "other" article.

 

[El Diablo]

they've brushed the Oncologist's opinion that was in Bourbon Beccy's article and gone for anyone who will agree with what they want everyone to think

and still there is not one shred of evidence he took drugs

News Ltd journos are scum

go hack some phones you low life merkins

 

[The Elephant In The room]

I would go dressed the same way.
No need to show asda any respect or courtesy, they haven't.

I don't thinks it's about respect, it's about the fact that you are already in the media spot light and copping it from all and sundry, so why give the journos another easy opportunity to lay the boot in and to keep the story on the front/back page?

 

[El Diablo]

f**k the journos and f**k ASADA

 

[Edward]

Who cares what he wore.

He was simply going to an interview lol.

Not Court.

 

[Matchball]

Not sure Professor Kenneth Ho's views are widely known/agreed upon amongst his peers if the Cancer Council and Syd uni professor John Baxter are anything to go by. I don't doubt they're all right - the only one in the wrong is the Telecrap, this article is no way redeems them for their "other" article.

A Sydney based paper had to go to another state to try and substantiate their agenda.

Scum.

 

[ek999]

I'm all for DT bashing but the guy does know what he is talking about

Professor Ken Ho
Chair of Princess Alexandra Hospital Centres for Health Research
As the new Chair of Princess Alexandra Hospital Centres for Health Research, Professor Ken Ho is bringing a program of research from Sydney to develop hormonal and metabolic treatments for obesity and frailty.


Ken Ho graduated in medicine at the University of Sydney in 1975, undertook studies towards a Doctorate in Medicine at the Garvan Institute of Medical Research before pursuing a post-doctoral fellowship at the University of Virginia. Before taking up his position in Brisbane, he was Chairman, Department of Endocrinology, St. Vincent’s Hospital, Head, Pituitary Research Unit, Garvan Institute of Medical Research, and Professor of Medicine, University of New South Wales, Sydney, Australia.


Ken’s major research interests are in pituitary disease and the understanding of how hormones control metabolism, body composition and function. His work is strongly translational closely integrating laboratory and clinical studies encompassing the study of gene expression, receptor regulation, cell signaling, hormone secretion and the quantification of energy and substrate metabolism.


He has held continued peer-reviewed funding, including support from the NHMRC for 20 years. He has been invited to speak at numerous international meetings including those of the US, the British, German and the International Endocrine Societies. He was awarded the 2008 Asia Oceania Medal and the 2000 Clinical Endocrinology Trust Professorship by the British Endocrine Society. He was awarded an honorary fellowship of the Royal College of Physicians, UK. He has participated in international consensus panels providing guidelines on the diagnosis and treatment of pituitary disease. He has published over 200 scientific papers, which include publications in the Lancet, Annals of Internal Medicine, New England Journal of Medicine, Journal of Clinical Investigation and Proceedings of the National Academy of Science.


He has served on the NHMRC Career Development Award Committee and the Grant Review Panel. He is a founding Member and past president of the International Growth Hormone Research Society, and past-president of the Endocrine Society of Australia. He is an executive member of the Specialist Medical Review Council, Department of Veterans Affairs.

http://www.tri.edu.au/index.php/about-tri/key-researchers

 

[ek999]

http://www.news.com.au/opinion/when-casual-means-disrespectful/story-fnh4jt54-1226632175680

THE sight of Wade Graham casually walking into the ASADA inquiry shows some rugby league players clearly have no respect for the current proceedings.

Jeans, thongs, baseball cap on backwards, loose t-shirt and sunnies, Graham looked like he was heading to the pub with mates, not fronting arguably the most serious judicial proceeding of his rugby league career.


Remember, this was the first of 31 NRL players to be investigated by the anti-doping officials following months of damaging headlines for the game.


And the penalties are severe, with players found guilty of breaching anti-doping rules to face a two-year ban from the NRL.


Maybe Graham needs to be told the hearings are not being held at the local RSL in Cronulla, but at the respectable offices of the Reserve Bank in Sydney's CBD.


Maybe Graham just doesn't care, his nonchalant dress code indicates that is probably the case.


It has already been reported that Sharks management had told their players to wear smarter business attire when they meet with ASADA investigators, the message obviously didn't sink in with the 22-year-old Graham.


That too shows a lack of respect, to his employers, the Cronulla Sharks.


It was reminiscent of the Bulldogs attitude back in 2004 when a number of players were questioned over unsubstantiated allegations of gang rape.


They too took a casual approach when grilled by the authorities, with cargo pants, jeans, sunglasses and loose t-shirts the order of the day for many.


Graham was only 13 years-old then, and both the Bulldogs wardrobe and the allegations probably mattered little to him.


But now in 2013, he is the one under the microscope, it's time for him and his mates to shape up, or as they say, ship out.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/opinion/when...ul/story-fnh4jt54-1226632175680#ixzz2Ruf8LmGq
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[El Diablo]

LOL

scum News Ltd journos actually think what you wear will make a difference

just die you filthy low life grubs