OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[strider]

So you're drawing assumptions, I thought you had something.

Did you also know that the machine prints a paper ballot you can review before submitting, so you're not voting for someone you don't want to vote for ?

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You are drawing assumptions too.

Im not saying its necessarily rigged, but on the surface it seems broken.

Does everyone bother to go look at their bit of paper? Half the country dont even bother to vote.

 

[strider]

Did you happen to listen to JD Vance on Rogan? I was very impressed and quite shocked. Made Trump sound like the fool he is in comparison.

I didnt see the full thing of either, but i saw a fair bit of both.

I thought Trumps was worse than Vance.
Trump seemed to divert. Always going off on some story. Tho Rogan did try and bring him back several times. .... but it seemed a typical politician side stepping around interview.

 

[Gronk]

Worth a look. I am sure peeps will say that he is bitter something something. He is one of the 40 of 44 that can't endorse him.

 

[eels_fan]

Trump in a landslide.

he’s the better of the 2 muppets.

Kamala is puppet, just as Biden was. At least with Trump you know he is not going to be anyone’s lackey….

 

[hindy111]

Trump in a landslide.

he’s the better of the 2 muppets.

Kamala is puppet, just as Biden was. At least with Trump you know he is not going to be anyone’s lackey….

Kamala is terrible. The way they are counting the numbers however I wouldn’t be suprised if she wins due to rigging

 

[Gronk]

Trump in a landslide.

he’s the better of the 2 muppets.

Kamala is puppet, just as Biden was. At least with Trump you know he is not going to be anyone’s lackey….

What is this puppet business ? Oh well, two can play that game.

 

[Gronk]

Kamala is terrible. The way they are counting the numbers however I wouldn’t be suprised if she wins due to rigging

Lucky you have feet in both camps, so no matter what happens you can claim victory.

Trump wins - you rejoice.
Kamala wins - you reckon you won money.

Genius, you can never lose.

 

[eels_fan]

What is this puppet business ? Oh well, two can play that game.

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haha.. you think Putin controls Trump?

Both are too egotistical and narcissistic to let anyone speak for them.

 

[hindy111]

Lucky you have feet in both camps, so no matter what happens you can claim victory.

Trump wins - you rejoice.
Kamala wins - you reckon you won money.

Genius, you can never lose.

If TRUMP wins you may need to have a week off because it's going to be wild on here. I advise Twizzle to be on stand by.
If Kamala wins I fly business class to Tokyo.

 

[Eelogical]

The outcome will be decided by the passage of time.

 

[the phantom menace]

If TRUMP wins you may need to have a week off because it's going to be wild on here. I advise Twizzle to be on stand by.

You planning to break member guidelines, get your posts reported and spend some time in forum suspension?

That would be very in the spirit of Donald Trump...

 

[Gronk]

If TRUMP wins you may need to have a week off because it's going to be wild on here. I advise Twizzle to be on stand by.
If Kamala wins I fly business class to Tokyo.

Yeah I’m ready for a Trump win, so I have already processed it. I have said numerous times that it will be VERY hard to get re-elected in a post inflation environment. If he loses from here it will be very embarrassing.

You should be flying business class everywhere anyway. Isn’t that what powerful millionaires do ?

 

[Gronk]

haha.. you think Putin controls Trump?

Both are too egotistical and narcissistic to let anyone speak for them.

 

[strider]

Worth a look. I am sure peeps will say that he is bitter something something. He is one of the 40 of 44 that can't endorse him.



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Do they have more credibility than the 50 odd intelligence people who lied about hunter bidens laptop prior to the last election?

 

[Suitman]

Love to hear your reasons why the world should step in and cut up a sovereign nation and hand it over to Russia, just because a bully threatens to make mire if a fuss. Kinda sets a precedent for others to follow.

History lesson, fact check if you like:

1. Budapest Memorandum (1994): This is one of the most cited agreements in discussions on Ukraine’s security. After the Soviet Union dissolved, Ukraine inherited a significant nuclear arsenal. In exchange for giving up its nuclear weapons, Ukraine signed the Budapest Memorandum with the U.S., UK, and Russia. The signatories committed to respecting Ukraine’s sovereignty and borders, and promised to refrain from using force or economic coercion against Ukraine. However, Russia’s 2014 annexation of Crimea and the 2022 invasion are widely seen as violations of this agreement. Russia argues that the 2014 Euromaidan protests, which led to a new Ukrainian government more aligned with the West, invalidated the memorandum’s protections.

2. Minsk Agreements (2014 & 2015): Following Russia’s annexation of Crimea and the outbreak of conflict in Eastern Ukraine, Ukraine, Russia, France, and Germany negotiated the Minsk Agreements to establish a ceasefire and outline a plan for political solutions in the Donbas region. The agreements called for a ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weapons, and political reforms, including greater autonomy for the Donbas area. Both Ukraine and Russia accuse each other of failing to meet the agreements’ terms. Ukraine, under pressure domestically, was hesitant to grant autonomy to Donbas regions controlled by pro-Russian separatists, fearing it would cement Russian influence there. Meanwhile, Russia allegedly supported the separatists militarily, which Ukraine saw as a breach of the ceasefire provisions.

Summary: Russia have been committing f**kery for….ever. They took Crimea, everyone stood by and watched. They argue that they are entitled to take other bits because the border areas speak Russian and contain pro russian people at heart - separatists. Those separatists stir shit up somehow get armed, get arrested and all of a sudden there are ethnic cleansing claims. Better send the troops in. Oh the humanity.

Putin had a puppet installed before Zelensky. Two before Zelensky, Ukraine’s president was Yanukovych. Yanukovych was Ukraine’s president from 2010 until he fled to Russia in 2014 following massive protests. Can you see a correlation of dates ? Putin puppet and Crimea? Motherf**ker.

So Ukraine wants to join NATO and you think that essentially joining a EU defence force against aggression is bad ? Well it’s bad for Russia. Bad for anyone else?

Heaven help Nanna when the bikies roll into town and set up camp down by the river on her farm. You’ll walk down there with the title deeds and sign two over paddocks to them in the name of peace. I’m a pacifist too, but there are times when just have to stand up for ourselves and our neighbours.

There is good reason why Sweden and Finland just joined NATO too.

Ukraine finally have a democratically elected leader/govt and all they are trying to do is defend their territory.
Everything else you have stated is completely correct.
I'm curious to know why the rest of the democratic world have not supported Ukraine more strongly against the tyranny of a centuries old crack-pot regime who have openly slaughtered hundreds of thousands of their own troops by just throwing them into a war for a land grab against an opponent that they thought they would overthrow within weeks.
Putin is the new Hitler. The sooner he is disposed of, the better.

 

[hindy111]

You planning to break member guidelines, get your posts reported and spend some time in forum suspension?

That would be very in the spirit of Donald Trump...

 

[hindy111]

Yeah I’m ready for a Trump win, so I have already processed it. I have said numerous times that it will be VERY hard to get re-elected in a post inflation environment. If he loses from here it will be very embarrassing.

You should be flying business class everywhere anyway. Isn’t that what powerful millionaires do ?

I was in Bondi last week working. Do you own a vest and where you buying a pumpkin?
Imo I saw you.

 

[strider]

Ukraine finally have a democratically elected leader/govt and all they are trying to do is defend their territory.
Everything else you have stated is completely correct.
I'm curious to know why the rest of the democratic world have not supported Ukraine more strongly against the tyranny of a centuries old crack-pot regime who have openly slaughtered hundreds of thousands of their own troops by just throwing them into a war for a land grab against an opponent that they thought they would overthrow within weeks.
Putin is the new Hitler. The sooner he is disposed of, the better.

The guy who was overthrown in a coup was democratically elected also.

 

[Gronk]

I was in Bondi last week working. Do you own a vest and where you buying a pumpkin?
Imo I saw you.

I don’t live in Bondi.

 

[Gronk]

Shocked !