OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Gary Gutful]

I enjoyed Priscilla Queen of the desert

*dessert

 

[84 Baby]

Bingo. Gary only looks after one person. Gary.

You’re a manservant for another guy named Gary?

 

[Gary Gutful]

You’re a manservant for another guy named Gary?

There's only one Gary. There is also a Gary Gary.

 

[T.S Quint]

But why does he want to do that, Dad?

Dunno.
Why do you want to wear shorts?

 

[T.S Quint]

The issue with 'Drag Queens' and children is that, unlike the less in-your-face transvestite, drag queen culture is hyper-sexualised.

It's like having a bondage gimp reading to children. It might be a valid lifestyle choice and entirely within the law, but it's not something children need to be confronted with. Kids ask questions and they don't stop asking why when you tell them "Because he wants to."

But even if it weren't sexualised, gender is (along with family) the most significant part of a young child's identity. Someone being unhappy with their assigned gender is something they could never understand until the age of about 13, when they're old enough to loathe themselves as much as any adult.

I don’t think a drag queen is going to be highly sexualised when reading to kids.

And gender is not the most significant part of a child’s identity at all. It is only one part, along with their race, their family, their language. All of those things are just as significant as their gender. In fact if I had to pick one that would be the most significant it would be their place within their family, not their gender.

 

[T.S Quint]

I don't want my kids looking up to people who wear garish makeup either. And that includes clowns, drag queens and my Aunt Batya.

Don’t take them to drag queen story time then.
Or the circus, I guess.

 

[strider]

Yep. SA are leading the way on hydrogen and all things renewables but other states are catching up.

Hydrogen is energy intensive to produce. The big debate is around whether coal or gas is used to help drive hydrogen investment as an interim while we work to develop renewables at the scale needed to make hydrogen a reality. A lot of people are fundamentally opposed to the idea. Even if it incorporates carbon capture and storage and is therefore net zero emissions.

So, its a piece of piss then. Lets start

 

[Gronk]

I don't want my kids looking up to people who wear garish makeup either. And that includes clowns, drag queens and my Aunt Batya.

So don’t send them there. Some people think that if something is outside their boundaries then that rule should apply to everyone. Weird.

 

[Bandwagon]

Preferred PM is a stupid metric to assess. It routinely over inflates the importance of the opposition leader due to the 'grass is greener' factor. I'm surprised it hasn't been binned given the historical inaccuracies.

That's just not right, Preferred PM mostly favours the incumbent, and can be useful as a proxy to determine an election outcome based upon "knowing" how much incumbency flavours the result. I've seen this mooted to be as high as 16 points, but somewhere between 5 and 10 points is probably more realistic.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/newspoll

Look at the ratings there, Shorten only once topped the incumbent PM, and that's when the incumbent ( Turnbull ) was knifed. It then quickly reverted back to Scotty from Marketing, all the while the 2PP was telling us something completely different. Although if you looked at the trend from the low point when Scotty took over, right through to the election, whilst the coalition clearly was behind, the trend line would have crossed 50/50 at about the time of the last election. So maybe it wasn't.

I think that in general our elections are becoming more "presidential" in style, that people are more inclined to vote for the leader than they are for their local member. So preferred PM will become even more of an indicator.

In saying that, one poll is two and half years out from an election is pretty f**king meaningless, trend is where it's at for predictions.

 

[Gary Gutful]

That's just not right, Preferred PM mostly favours the incumbent, and can be useful as a proxy to determine an election outcome based upon "knowing" how much incumbency flavours the result. I've seen this mooted to be as high as 16 points, but somewhere between 5 and 10 points is probably more realistic.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/newspoll

Look at the ratings there, Shorten only once topped the incumbent PM, and that's when the incumbent ( Turnbull ) was knifed. It then quickly reverted back to Scotty from Marketing, all the while the 2PP was telling us something completely different. Although if you looked at the trend from the low point when Scotty took over, right through to the election, whilst the coalition clearly was behind, the trend line would have crossed 50/50 at about the time of the last election. So maybe it wasn't.

I think that in general our elections are becoming more "presidential" in style, that people are more inclined to vote for the leader than they are for their local member. So preferred PM will become even more of an indicator.

In saying that, one poll is two and half years out from an election is pretty f**king meaningless, trend is where it's at for predictions.

Yeah. You are right. I f**ked that up.

I wasn't thinking. Must have been too busy creating my Costello gif.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So don’t send them there. Some people think that if something is outside their boundaries then that rule should apply to everyone. Weird.

Should parents be free to expose their children to harmful experiences that will shape them into garbage adults? Plenty of people think not. This isn't a new idea. Every society in history has demanded the social indoctrination of children, whether religious or atheist.

 

[Gronk]

Should parents be free to expose their children to harmful experiences that will shape them into garbage adults? Plenty of people think not. This isn't a new idea. Every society in history has demanded the social indoctrination of children, whether religious or atheist.

Catastrophising much ? What evidence do you have that that toddlers having stories read to them by a person in a funny costume turns them into garbage adults ? Plenty of people think a lots of things. Most of the time they should just mind their own business.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

There's a definite correlation between increased tolerance and declining mental health over the past century. Obviously that doesn't prove a causal relationship, but people are obviously messed up. It's nice that trans people are able to feel included when they're reading to kids, but what lesson are children taking from it? It might not be the lesson well-meaning adults intend.

 

[Gronk]

There's a definite correlation between increased tolerance and declining mental health over the past century.

Oh really ? I think you just made that up.

It's nice that trans people are able to feel included when they're reading to kids,

You are such a shit stirrer and I'm not going to be the idiot who embarks on a tit-for-tat showdown on the reasons why Drag queen storytime was arranged. My last comment on this will be that perhaps you should attend one reading as it may well open your mind and blow out a few stubborn phobic cobwebs.

 

[Happy MEel]

There's a definite correlation between increased tolerance and declining mental health over the past century. Obviously that doesn't prove a causal relationship, but people are obviously messed up. It's nice that trans people are able to feel included when they're reading to kids, but what lesson are children taking from it? It might not be the lesson well-meaning adults intend.

Perhaps it’s the intolerance (which you’re essentially recommending) that is contributing more to declining mental health, rather than the increased tolerance.

 

[Bazal]

Or perhaps increased understanding has meant that more people are diagnosed with conditions that ostensibly weren't known to exist 50 years ago?

Perhaps it's not as simple as a "correlation between increased tolerance and declining mental health" and Pou is just deadset making shit up. Again.

 

[84 Baby]

Oh really ? I think you just made that up.


You are such a shit stirrer and I'm not going to be the idiot who embarks on a tit-for-tat showdown on the reasons why Drag queen storytime was arranged. My last comment on this will be that perhaps you should attend one reading as it may well open your mind and blow out a few stubborn phobic cobwebs.

Pou’s afraid he’ll have something other than his mind opened up
#

 

[84 Baby]

Yeah. You are right. I f**ked that up.

I wasn't thinking. Must have been too busy creating my Costello gif.

Welcome to Bandys weekly PC exposure

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Oh really ? I think you just made that up.

No, tolerance has definitely increased since the 1930s, while mental illness indicators increased until the nineties, when antidepressant use improved.

This things could be completely unrelated but the correlation is real.

You are such a shit stirrer and I'm not going to be the idiot who embarks on a tit-for-tat showdown on the reasons why Drag queen storytime was arranged. My last comment on this will be that perhaps you should attend one reading as it may well open your mind and blow out a few stubborn phobic cobwebs.

I f**king LOVED Priscilla.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Perhaps it’s the intolerance (which you’re essentially recommending) that is contributing more to declining mental health, rather than the increased tolerance.

Except tolerance has increased. It is increasing all the time. We just voted in gay marriage ffs.