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And why, when Anthony Koutafides was one, did he get the name Kouta, but Mark McGaw wasn’t named Sparkles?
 

Bandwagon

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Not at all. He said it himself - he only reads the synthesis because he can't be arsed reading the actual report.

Why the need to lie mate? I said no such thing.

Honestly, though, he only quoted the synthesis because that's what websearches bring up.

See the thing with providing links to the source used, is they link to the source used. Cool eh?

Now if you follow the links I provided, you can see they all originate from the IPCC website, super cool eh?

if we follow the links you provided we get..............

He hasn't read the report. You and he have that in common. Actually, a lot of people around here have that in common...

Honestly, If you have actually read the reports, and you literally can't understand simple concepts like levels of confidence, you've wasted your time mate.

Now, back to the subject at hand, you know, the one you completely avoided discussing here?

Do you still claim that low confidence actually means no confidence, or would you prefer to walk away from that statement and concede you were in error?
 

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The gap between no confidence and low confidence is much greater than the gap between low confidence and high confidence. Any analyst knows that. Even a shit one like me.

Which is why I was made analytical foreman.
 
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Why the need to lie mate? I said no such thing.



See the thing with providing links to the source used, is they link to the source used. Cool eh?

Now if you follow the links I provided, you can see they all originate from the IPCC website, super cool eh?

if we follow the links you provided we get..............



Honestly, If you have actually read the reports, and you literally can't understand simple concepts like levels of confidence, you've wasted your time mate.

Now, back to the subject at hand, you know, the one you completely avoided discussing here?

Do you still claim that low confidence actually means no confidence, or would you prefer to walk away from that statement and concede you were in error?
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Well, we know we can add another to the "never read it" team.

You guys are growing in size every day.

Mate instead of just saying "Lolz u neva red it", could you explain how "low confidence" means zero or no confidence in a system where "very low confidence" is also a qualifier?

I'm genuinely interested in how that must work and what very low confidence might then mean. And before you say it, I read a bit of it but not all. I fully admit that while I enjoy science, most scientific writing in official reports and papers is enough to put a coke addict to sleep.
 

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In a space where "no confidence" is never used - no, it isn't.
That's because if there's no confidence in an element it isn't part of the assessment. Low confidence still means that is the most likely explanation of all options. You just wouldn't put your house on it.

Or the economy your children stand to inherit
 

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Poor nations are becoming wealthy. India and China are going to be far different in 50yrs.Strong work ethics and the lifestyles they sustain make them efficient human beings.
How will Australia be? Once we have sold everything and coal is done. Perhaps we all will just be selling coffees to each other.
The wealthy white people need to protect their money somehow. And Europeans love their 30hr week. Why should they work hard. They deserve an easier life don't they? How many Indian kids get to travel for 2yrs around the globe for a GAP year?
But hey they need a way to sustain this privileged life and slow down some of these other roaring economies waiting to swallow them up.
If Global warming was a HOAX then it makes sense why Europeans are pushing it so hard..
 

Gary Gutful

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Well, we know we can add another to the "never read it" team.

You guys are growing in size every day.
Thats not even a comeback's arsehole.

Bandy made some really good points that have completely destroyed your argument and credibility and now you are just digging your own grave with this "You've never read it" rubbish.

Do you still claim that low confidence actually means no confidence? If so what does very low confidence actually mean?

This will be the fourth time someone has asked these simple questions.
 

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http://theconversation.com/blackroc...cision-to-dump-coal-signals-whats-next-129972

Author
John QuigginProfessor, School of Economics, The University of Queensland

The announcement by BlackRock, the world’s largest fund manager, that it will dump more than half a billion dollars in thermal coal shares from all of its actively managed portfolios, might not seem like big news.

Announcements of this kind have come out steadily over the past couple of years.

Virtually all the major Australian and European banks and insurers, and many other global institutions, have already announced such policies.

According to the Unfriend Coal Campaign, insurance companies have stopped covering roughly US$8.9 trillion of coal investments – more than one-third (37%) of the coal industry’s global assets, and stopped offering reinsurance to 46% of them.

Blackrock matters because it is big
The announcement matters, in part because of Blackrock’s sheer size.

It is the world’s largest investor, with a total of $US7 trillion in funds under its control. Its announcement it will “put climate change at the center of its investment strategy” raises questions about the soundness of smaller financial institutions that remain committed to coal and to a carbon-based economy.

Blackrock is also important because its primary business is index funds, that are meant to replicate entire markets.

So far these funds are not affected by the divestment policy. BlackRock’s iShares United States S&P 500 Index fund, for instance, has nearly US$23 billion in assets, including as much as US$1 billion in energy investments.

But the contradiction between the company’s new activist stance and the passive replication of an energy-heavy index such as Australia’s is obvious. The pressure to find a solution will grow.

In time, the entire share market will be affected
One solution might be for large mining companies such as BHP to dump their coal assets in order to remain part of both Blackrock’s actively managed (stock picking) and passively managed (all stocks) portfolios.

Another might be the development of index funds from which firms reliant on fossil fuels are excluded. It is even possible that the compilers of stock market indexes will themselves exclude these firms.

The announcement has big implications for the Australian government.

Blackrock chief executive Laurence Fink noted that climate change has become the top issue raised by clients. He said it would soon affect all all investments – everything from municipal bonds to mortgages for homes.

Once investors start assessing government bonds in terms of climate change, Australia’s government will be in serious trouble.

Australia’s AAA rating will be at risk
The bushfire catastrophe and the government’s inadequate response have shown the world Australia is both among the countries most exposed to climate catastrophe and one of the worst in terms of contributions to solutions.

Once bond investors follow the lead of Blackrock and other financial institutions, divestment of Australian government bonds will follow.

This process has already started, with the decision of Sweden’s central bank to unload its holdings of Australian government bonds.

Taken in isolation, Sweden’s move had virtually no effect on Australia’s bond prices and yields. But the most striking feature of the divestment movement so far is the speed with which it has grown from symbolic gestures to a severe constraint on funding for the firms it touches.

The fact that the Adani corporation was unable to find a single bank willing to fund its Carmichael mine is an indication of the pressure that will come to bear.

The effects might be felt before large-scale divestment takes place. Ratings agencies such as Moody’s and Standard and Poorsare supposed to anticipate risks to bondholders before they materialise.

It’ll make inaction expensive
Once there is a serious threat of large-scale divestment in Australian bonds, the agencies will be obliged to take this into account in setting Ausralia’s credit rating. The much-prized AAA rating is likely to be an early casualty.

That would mean higher interest rates for Australian government bonds which would flow through the entire economy, including the home mortgage rates mentioned in the Blackrock statement.

The government’s case for doing nothing about climate change (other than cashing in on past efforts) has been premised on the “economy-wrecking” costs of serious action.

But as investments associated with coal are increasingly seen as toxic, we run an increasing risk that inaction will cause greater damage.
 
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