OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Poupou Escobar]

Whether or not she can make up her own mind is irrelevant. She is a child with a disability who is missing a lot of school. People that age are notorious for having ill-conceived opinions that are subject to change when the harsh light of experience shows us how stupid we were.

 

[Gronk]

Whether or not she can make up her own mind is irrelevant. She is a child with a disability who is missing a lot of school.

We have dealt with the school thing.

Aspergers syndrome, obsessive-compulsive disorder, ADHD and selective mutism does not bode well for a traditional education. Having said that, none of the above impacts on an individual’s IQ. There are some very famous people who have achieved great things notwithstanding their position on the spectrum. Um Mozart, Einstein, Thomas Jefferson, Steve Jobs, Stanley Kubrick, Isaac Newton.

People that age are notorious for having ill-conceived opinions that are subject to change when the harsh light of experience shows us how stupid we were.

Yes, however she’s not exactly going out on a limb here. You know, the 99% of scientists thing ?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We have dealt with the school thing.

Those others you list obviously replaced school with something useful, rather than the influence of political activists.

Yes, however she’s not exactly going out on a limb here. You know, the 99% of scientists thing ?

The fact she's ignoring the views of the sceptical scientists shows she hasn't learnt the first thing about science. Perhaps she should've stayed in school.

 

[hineyrulz]

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

Fake News, because...you know...Drumpf is a racist:

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/show_station.cgi?id=620040300000&dt=1&ds=1

SCIENCE!!! Because...you know...Greta Thunberg:

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/stdata_show_v4.cgi?id=IC000004030&dt=1&ds=14

But just ignore it

Or, better yet, find something from Twitter or an article from the MSM that has a headline that suits your political narrative better...

 

[Gronk]

Those others you list obviously replaced school with something useful, rather than the influence of political activists.

That’s your opinion. I think that she is experiencing life right now that is unique and could not be bought at any price. Sometimes life cuts it’s own path. The world needs more strong women and sometimes they emerge in public life at a young age.

The fact she's ignoring the views of the sceptical scientists shows she hasn't learnt the first thing about science. Perhaps she should've stayed in school.

Perhaps you’re clutching at straws.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

And now the appeal to victimhood. At least Malala wanted to go to school.

 

[Bandwagon]

Fake News, because...you know...Drumpf is a racist:

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/show_station.cgi?id=620040300000&dt=1&ds=1

SCIENCE!!! Because...you know...Greta Thunberg:

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/stdata_show_v4.cgi?id=IC000004030&dt=1&ds=14

But just ignore it

Or, better yet, find something from Twitter or an article from the MSM that has a headline that suits your political narrative better...

Meh, science progresses,

Uncertainty Quantification
This page provides computer code for a new, improved uncertainty analysis for the GISS Surface Temperature Analysis (GISTEMP) v4, and which can be similarly applied to v3. The analysis in described in detail in the journal article "Improvements in the uncertainty model in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies Surface Temperature (GISTEMP) analysis" by Lenssen et al. (2019). The code is written in the R programming language; instructions for downloading the code and replicating the analysis are given below.

The production GISTEMP global mean temperature time series with the total (LSAT and SST) 95% confidence interval calculated in our study for annual mean temperature smoothed with LOWESS with 5-year bandwidth. Anomalies are calculated with respect to the 1951-1980 climatology.

GISTEMP processes spatial variations in surface temperature anomalies that are derived from historical weather station data and ocean data from ships, buoys and other sensors. Uncertainties arise from measurement uncertainty, changes in spatial coverage of the station record, and systematic biases due to technology shifts and land cover changes.

In Lenssen et al (2019), we have updated previous uncertainty estimates using currently available spatial distributions of source data and state-of-the-art reanalyses, and incorporate independently derived estimates for ocean data processing, station homogenization and other structural biases. The resulting 95% uncertainties are near 0.05°C in the global annual mean for the last 50 years, and increase going back further in time reaching 0.15°C in 1880.

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/uncertainty/

 

[Bandwagon]

Whether or not she can make up her own mind is irrelevant. She is a child with a disability who is missing a lot of school. People that age are notorious for having ill-conceived opinions that are subject to change when the harsh light of experience shows us how stupid we were.

It's completely relevant to your claim, which relies upon her lacking independent thought and a lack of awareness about what is going on around her.

You are literally proposing that you can see what she can't see in her own life, based upon your longer life experience and her younger age.

So her ability to exercise independent thought goes directly to the heart of your proposition.

 

[Gronk]

When the science become irrefutable, Bolt flip-flops to a “so what” stance.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It's completely relevant to your claim, which relies upon her lacking independent thought and a lack of awareness about what is going on around her.

You are literally proposing that you can see what she can't see in her own life, based upon your longer life experience and her younger age.

So her ability to exercise independent thought goes directly to the heart of your proposition.

No the point is whether or not she is being used. Independent thought doesn't impact that either way. Politicians and the media use individual voters in a similar way. Independent thought doesn't negate bias or any other vulnerabilities that allow us to be used for the purposes of others.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

When the science become irrefutable, Bolt flip-flops to a “so what” stance.

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People need to understand there is more than one point of contention in all this. It's why the science is far from compelling, and why the media and politicians are getting their sound bites from activists and each other rather than from scientists.

 

[Bandwagon]

No the point is whether or not she is being used. Independent thought doesn't impact that either way. Politicians and the media use individual voters in a similar way. Independent thought doesn't negate bias or any other vulnerabilities that allow us to be used for the purposes of others.

Independent thought is as likely to reaffirm a bias as it is to negate it. and again, your assumption is she doesn't see what you see based entirely upon her age and the kind of behaviours which you would atypically see inherent in that cohort.

In other words, at best you have an educated guess. at worst you have no f**king idea whatsoever.

 

[Bandwagon]

When the science become irrefutable, Bolt flip-flops to a “so what” stance.

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This has been a fallback argument literally for years. It's the "co2 is plant food" approach. I'd be surprised if old Andy has only recently discovered it.

 

[84 Baby]

With a little bit of effort, your friends and family won’t even know these are Keto lamingtons.

That’s just a lie vengeful health freaks tell themselves. Everyone knows they taste like horse shit

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Independent thought is as likely to reaffirm a bias as it is to negate it. and again, your assumption is she doesn't see what you see based entirely upon her age and the kind of behaviours which you would atypically see inherent in that cohort.

Plenty of people see it. She may even see it herself but enjoys the benefits.

In other words, at best you have an educated guess. at worst you have no f**king idea whatsoever.

At best or worst it's an assessment, no different to anyone else with an opinion on her, including her supporters. This is a person who can't legally consent to sex with an adult if she is under their care but is somehow able to understand all the other ways they might intend to benefit at her expense.

 

[Bandwagon]

Plenty of people see it. She may even see it herself but enjoys the benefits..

That is assuming it's actually a thing, in which case yes, that's very much a possibility, it also then would beg the question of who's using who?

At best or worst it's an assessment, no different to anyone else with an opinion on her, including her supporters. This is a person who can't legally consent to sex with an adult if she is under their care but is somehow able to understand all the other ways they might intend to benefit at her expense.

So what? I mean you're entitled to your opinion. You're just as entitled as any one else to be wrong as well.

How does this support your case?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

That is assuming it's actually a thing, in which case yes, that's very much a possibility, it also then would beg the question of who's using who?

I would say the adults are using the child, no different to the case of a child her age being exploited by an adult trying to claim that he/she was seduced by said child. The implication being that the adult has a better handle on the costs and risks than does the child.

So what? I mean you're entitled to your opinion. You're just as entitled as any one else to be wrong as well.

How does this support your case?

What case?

 

[Gary Gutful]

What case?

THE CASE, MERKIN!

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

That’s just a lie vengeful health freaks tell themselves. Everyone knows they taste like horse shit

That's a f**ken lie you f**ken dickhead!! They're delicious, and what's more they completely cured my Tourette's. Asshole!