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Poupou Escobar

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Here's Cotric flashing his:
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And here he is helping Tim Lafai flatten the back of his own head:
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Poupou Escobar

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As a former member of the deep state I'll say that it obviously exists. The point is there's no grand conspiracies, just a couple of thousand impotent bureaucrats with similar worldviews and political imperatives, who wield significant influence as a collective herd.

But there's so much oversight merkins wouldn't dare organise to actively undermine democracy or whatever. They have too much to lose and are so useless they wouldn't trust themselves or their co-conspirators to achieve anything meaningful.
 

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As a former member of the deep state I'll say that it obviously exists. The point is there's no grand conspiracies, just a couple of thousand impotent bureaucrats with similar worldviews and political imperatives, who wield significant influence as a collective herd.

But there's so much oversight merkins wouldn't dare organise to actively undermine democracy or whatever. They have too much to lose and are so useless they wouldn't trust themselves or their co-conspirators to achieve anything meaningful.

I've seen that movie.

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T.S Quint

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On climate change are we thinking outside the box?
It seems we want ways to keep our capitalist lifestyles the same but by reducing energy .
We could reduce population or perhaps find a way to make humans smaller. We are getting bigger in size. Imagine we reverse the bigger is better attitude. And start shrinking. Imagine getting humans to 6 - 12 inches big. We would eat less, live in smaller houses and have smaller cars. Our consumption would be heavily reduced.

Possible? Unsure but worth looking into.

You really have been watching Downsizing.
 

Gronk

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Finkel has flipped and flopped on many aspects of hydrogen as an energy source.

But isn’t that good science? The ability to accept new studies and technology? Surely dismissing him because he changed his view is a pretty lame position as science itself changes almost on a daily basis. How does that make his opinion illegitimate or unworthy ?
 

Gronk

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East Timor says hi.
Nah, it was pretty transparent to all that us getting involved with ETimor was all about resources. Howards motivation was their sovereign oil and gas reserves. East Timor was our gulf war (which Howard also participated).

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...esponse-to-indonesian-invasion-of-timor-leste

The notion of a Deep State is that there is a hidden level of government that transcends borders and manipulates decisions notwithstanding who is in power. The above article shows that documents obtained from FOI revealed a targeted cash grab by the government of the day. The only “deep state” in that story are the tentacles of the fossil fuel industry. Ironically we have a history of helping these corporations like Santos who operate now in East Timor, yet pay no tax.
 

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