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[Gronk]

I stated quite clearly that it is not unreliable - it works just fine.

The question is what do I need improvements to my home for? Teams works fine. I can access my work server just fine. Download whatever files I need just fine. It's fine, and the strain from work-from-home will decrease as people get back into offices. The only other thing that my home might need would be entertainment and the government shouldn't be paying for that.

We've had a massive increase in network demand over the last few months and I've heard very, very little around the system not being able to handle that extra demand. It's worked fine. No need to waste any more money. The government has a bunch of other things it could spend a few billion on that would actually contribute to society - increases in unemployment support post-JS, pensions, homelessness, transport, the health network...we don't need to be able to download video faster.

It might come to a surprise to you, but they did not design bandwidth around your needs. If you don't need to upgrade, then don't.

You seemed to have missed the nuance of the NBN 2.0 announcement. Basically it's a worthless dog in it's current state and potential owners have stated that they won't touch it because it will need a bucket of cash thrown at it in the future. Hence why ScoMo has dressed this up as a "Covid Recovery" infrastructure cash injection. However really they are doing what should have been done in the first place so they can flog it.

 

[Gronk]

Understand you get all your info from Albo and Penny Wong, if you Would lower yourself to read Terry McCrann in today’s financial page of the Tele, he provides a sensible view on the issues with the NBN.

As it doesn’t completely endorse your view, maybe you won’t

JFC you're a cranky old tart.

How about you post his article - it's paywalled.

 

[Delboy]

JFC you're a cranky old tart.

How about you post his article - it's paywalled.

I only read the Tele is there’s one available when I am out for coffee, seniors can’t afford luxuries

 

[Gary Gutful]

I did. We don't need it.

What does it get used for? Downloading stuff?

And don't give me the whole "OMG, now everyone works from home!" crap, because:

• No one even mentioned this once as a reason in the past, so don't hijack a crisis to serve your politics in the past;
• I do Teams meetings from home and they work just fine with what I've already got;
• Work from Home will reduce over time, now.

I feel like a nation as developed as ours should have commensurate internet services. That said, I don't know enough about the NBN to know whether that is the solution. It seems overpriced for what we are getting.

 

[Gronk]

It might come to a surprise to you, but they did not design bandwidth around your needs. If you don't need to upgrade, then don't.

You seemed to have missed the nuance of the NBN 2.0 announcement. Basically it's a worthless dog in it's current state and potential owners have stated that they won't touch it because it will need a bucket of cash thrown at it in the future. Hence why ScoMo has dressed this up as a "Covid Recovery" infrastructure cash injection. However really they are doing what should have been done in the first place so they can flog it.

 

[Eelogical]

I feel like a nation as developed as ours should have commensurate internet services. That said, I don't know enough about the NBN to know whether that is the solution. It seems overpriced for what we are getting.

We're developed enough to wear thongs to a wedding. I think most people would attest that the NBN was outdated before the first cable was laid.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

FFS Eelo, don't start Gary on cable laying.

 

[Eelogical]

FFS Eelo, don't start Gary on cable laying.

 

[hindy111]

I did. We don't need it.

What does it get used for? Downloading stuff?

And don't give me the whole "OMG, now everyone works from home!" crap, because:

• No one even mentioned this once as a reason in the past, so don't hijack a crisis to serve your politics in the past;
• I do Teams meetings from home and they work just fine with what I've already got;
• Work from Home will reduce over time, now.

I'm get 1-2 mbps. Its painful. I'd be happy for 20mpbs.
Back at the shed I would get 90mbps on 4g. It flew.
Now in middle of town I get 1 or 2.
I just hotspot 4g so do not have NBN.

 

[hindy111]

I stated quite clearly that it is not unreliable - it works just fine.

The question is what do I need improvements to my home for? Teams works fine. I can access my work server just fine. Download whatever files I need just fine. It's fine, and the strain from work-from-home will decrease as people get back into offices. The only other thing that my home might need would be entertainment and the government shouldn't be paying for that.

We've had a massive increase in network demand over the last few months and I've heard very, very little around the system not being able to handle that extra demand. It's worked fine. No need to waste any more money. The government has a bunch of other things it could spend a few billion on that would actually contribute to society - increases in unemployment support post-JS, pensions, homelessness, transport, the health network...we don't need to be able to download video faster.

Entertainment? I thought you where the ultimate entertainer

 

[hindy111]

I feel like a nation as developed as ours should have commensurate internet services. That said, I don't know enough about the NBN to know whether that is the solution. It seems overpriced for what we are getting.

Its rubbish at moment. But if had fibre to house the speeds would be capable of would be mind blowing. But providers need to upgrade there gear too. Many are using the government poor cableing as an excuse. This is false. Most the time they dont have big enough servers to give put enough fast speeds to everyone so limit it.

How fast does the avergae person need it though? I'd say if had 40mbps is good enough for 99%
NBN could be doing 1000+mbps. Would download a movie in 1- 2
seconds.

 

[Twizzle]

Understand you get all your info from Albo and Penny Wong, if you Would lower yourself to read Terry McCrann in today’s financial page of the Tele, he provides a sensible view on the issues with the NBN.

As it doesn’t completely endorse your view, maybe you won’t

Pot -> Kettle -> Black

 

[Bandwagon]

I stated quite clearly that it is not unreliable - it works just fine.

The question is what do I need improvements to my home for? Teams works fine. I can access my work server just fine. Download whatever files I need just fine. It's fine, and the strain from work-from-home will decrease as people get back into offices. The only other thing that my home might need would be entertainment and the government shouldn't be paying for that.

We've had a massive increase in network demand over the last few months and I've heard very, very little around the system not being able to handle that extra demand. It's worked fine. No need to waste any more money. The government has a bunch of other things it could spend a few billion on that would actually contribute to society - increases in unemployment support post-JS, pensions, homelessness, transport, the health network...we don't need to be able to download video faster.

Growth in data volume increases by between 30 and 50 percent each year, and has done pretty much since the dawn of the internet.

Everything you do and need now, may work fine now, cool, but what you do and need in the future is what's important.

And you can near as guarantee, it will be more.

 

[Gronk]

Its rubbish at moment. But if had fibre to house the speeds would be capable of would be mind blowing. But providers need to upgrade there gear too. Many are using the government poor cableing as an excuse. This is false. Most the time they dont have big enough servers to give put enough fast speeds to everyone so limit it.

How fast does the avergae person need it though? I'd say if had 40mbps is good enough for 99%
NBN could be doing 1000+mbps. Would download a movie in 1- 2
seconds.

We’re lucky that our area has foxtel cables, so we have HFC and pull 75mb mostly. But I know people like you who are worse off with NBN than they were with ADSL2.

From a business point of view, it’s not just zoom meeting that require bandwidth, as many of the merkins here would know, software is very much cloud based these days and we have multiple workstations moving 100s mb up and down all day. Businessall over AU need fibre like we have in the Sydney CBD.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Growth in data volume increases by between 30 and 50 percent each year, and has done pretty much since the dawn of the internet.

Everything you do and need now, may work fine now, cool, but what you do and need in the future is what's important.

And you can near as guarantee, it will be more.

But aren't we nearing the limit of how HD we actually need porn to be?

 

[Bandwagon]

But aren't we nearing the limit of how HD we actually need porn to be?

Are you streaming 8K without buffering?

If the answer is no, then the answer is........well, no.

Addendum: 16k,3d holograms will be a thing, and it will be driven by porn.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Are you streaming 8K without buffering?

If the answer is no, then the answer is........well, no.

Addendum: 16k,3d holograms will be a thing, and it will be driven by porn.

I'm not. So if you're talking about hard light holograms then I don't care what it costs, fix it. Just delete the Rimmer file.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It might come to a surprise to you, but they did not design bandwidth around your needs. If you don't need to upgrade, then don't.

You seemed to have missed the nuance of the NBN 2.0 announcement. Basically it's a worthless dog in it's current state and potential owners have stated that they won't touch it because it will need a bucket of cash thrown at it in the future. Hence why ScoMo has dressed this up as a "Covid Recovery" infrastructure cash injection. However really they are doing what should have been done in the first place so they can flog it.

Reminds me of a kid I knew in the army who traded his motorbike in for a new one so he could sell it.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We're developed enough to wear thongs to a wedding. I think most people would attest that the NBN was outdated before the first cable was laid.

And it will be outdated by the time they have finished this upgrade. Welcome to IT infrastructure investment.

Users should pay. Not taxpayers.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I just hotspot 4g

*4spot hotg