OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Poupou Escobar]

Captain, I believe we are beginning to head into a circle.

How is it a circle? Twizzle postulated a what's-the-worst-that-can-happen-if scenario (a hypothetical) and I responded:

The thing for me is, lets say the leftie/greenies are wrong, whats the worst thing that can happen ? we have a much nicer planet in which to live

If the condition suggested by Twizzle was satisfied then the 'climate alarmists' would indeed be worthy of the label. That's an entirely linear argument.

When you try to pick holes in somebody's statements and then get refuted, calling the argument circular makes you look as weak as if your only contribution is dumb gifs in an otherwise serious thread.

 

[Gronk]

 

[Gronk]

Harsh but fair or a merkin act ?

 

[Twizzle]

depends on how they define viable

have any of these farms ever produced ?

 

[Gronk]

depends on how they define viable

have any of these farms ever produced ?

An important question of course which would need to be examined in individual cases.

TBH I fear that Barnaby’s reaction to non-viable rural properties may very well be akin to the comment by John Alexander who suggested that Fijians “just move to higher ground” when threatened with rising sea levels as a result of climate change.

https://www.smh.com.au/federal-elec...limate-advice-to-fijians-20190503-p51jpo.html

This follows the pragmatic solution for climate change by an economist who suggested that it would be cheaper to just build a wall around Manhattan than pump billions into adherence with the Paris Agreement.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

More reliable too. There's a maximum height the sea level can reach. It doesn't keep rising indefinitely. Spending on climate action also has an upper limit but too many lives would be negatively impacted long before it got close to 100% of GDP.

 

[Gronk]

More reliable too. There's a maximum height the sea level can reach. It doesn't keep rising indefinitely. Spending on climate action also has an upper limit but too many lives would be negatively impacted long before it got close to 100% of GDP.

I don’t think you have thought this through. That’s a lot of walls to build world wide.

The Smithsonian hypothesised how 3m would impact Boston.

https://ocean.si.edu/conservation/climate-change/map-boston-3-meter-sea-level-rise

 

[Poupou Escobar]

For the most part you wouldn't build walls. You would just move people to higher ground, just as people have been doing as sea levels rise since the end of the last ice age.

Where there might be appetite for building expensive sea walls is where influential people own expensive coastal real estate they don't want to give up.

 

[Eelogical]

 

[Bandwagon]

For the most part you wouldn't build walls. You would just move people to higher ground, just as people have been doing as sea levels rise since the end of the last ice age.

Where there might be appetite for building expensive sea walls is where influential people own expensive coastal real estate they don't want to give up.

It's not really that simple though, our most valuable real estate,all our major cities, including a lot coastal farmland gets impacted.

Lismore where I'm at isn't exactly what you call coastal, but there's a shit tonne of fertile floodplain sitting at around 10m meters above sea level, and the Wilson's river that drains it, still is tidal a fair way up river from the town centre. A 3 meter sea level rise would see much of the flood plain unusable for production as it basically would become swamp because the river starting from a higher base level like that would just continuously flood throughout the wetter seasons. Though something like rice or cotton production might become viable.

 

[Eelogical]

It's not really that simple though, our most valuable real estate,all our major cities, including a lot coastal farmland gets impacted.

Lismore where I'm at isn't exactly what you call coastal, but there's a shit tonne of fertile floodplain sitting at around 10m meters above sea level, and the Wilson's river that drains it, still is tidal a fair way up river from the town centre. A 3 meter sea level rise would see much of the flood plain unusable for production as it basically would become swamp because the river starting from a higher base level like that would just continuously flood throughout the wetter seasons. Though something like rice or cotton production might become viable.

Nimbin isn't a choice?

 

[Bandwagon]

Nimbin isn't a choice?

Depends

Do you enjoy the smell of ripe unwashed hippie in summer?

 

[T.S Quint]

Depends

Do you enjoy the smell of ripe unwashed hippie in summer?

@hindy111?

 

[Eelogical]

Depends

Do you enjoy the smell of ripe unwashed hippie in summer?

I grew up in them there parts, though I have to admit it was before the Aquaruis festival came to town. I'm more of a Terania Ck/Dunoon kinda feral.

 

[Bandwagon]

I grew up in them there parts, though I have to admit it was before the Aquaruis festival came to town. I'm more of a Terania Ck/Dunoon kinda feral.

Terainia Creeks pretty alternative these days, Dunoon's a good mix of farming / lifestyle / family types.

Basically your high value plateau type land is still very much middle class farm communities, whilst the mountains and bush more your alternative types

 

[Bandwagon]

@hindy111?

x 10

and then some

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

 

[hindy111]

@hindy111?

I haven't been with a women since March/April.
How dare you mock me

 

[84 Baby]

Several loose men but.

 

[84 Baby]

Hehehehe but