OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Gary Gutful]

Ok well if unable to quit would you like to participate in an experiment at my place and I will try and cure you?

Can I leave my pants on?

 

[strider]

It's not how they work. So it is very hard to explain to someone who hasn't done as they think the experience will make them see aliens or something strange like that. It just doesn't. Basicaly it opens your eyes up and you see the world from another angle. They make you far more open minded.
Guys like Steve Jobbs openly talk about how LSD is what helped him get where he is. The guy who invented the PCR tested puts it down to tripping on LSD. Leary is it?
They don't make you want more. They help you work on problems you may have and solve them.

Have you seen the success rate from Mushrooms (One dose) and giving up smoking? 70% Does this mean you have them and you stop smoking? NO
Your trip must be about quitting smoking.That has to be your thoughts and you'd mind will change. It basicaly will re map your thoughts to why you smoke in the first place.
In 10yrs time watch how these things are going to change the world in mental health. People are having PTSD cure after 2 or 3 sessions.

i'm definitely not dissin' mushrooms ..... i've come to realise there are many things that get poo-pooed cos some group decides they need to get poo-pooed .... for various reasons - its in competition to something else, can't profit from it (yet), don't understand it

 

[Gary Gutful]

i didn't watch the video, so i have no idea what he said

I saw video of what looked like JFKs head exploding - so I imagine he is dead

Lady Di .... I could conceive a version of things where she hated her life and they did something to make her "disappear" ..... but I'm more inclined to believe she was in a bad car crash that killed her


I don't think "conspiracy theories" are always crazy ....... its just a term that has been engineered into a way to hang shit on people and discredit them

What are some conspiracy theories that aren’t crazy?

All of the popular ones seem pretty far fetched to me.

 

[strider]

How do you think we started? From an ape they say? Sure. But where did the ape come from? Originally we where just cells. All we are now are organisms which is a group of cells. Very smart ones at that. You my friend come from the mycelium world.
f**king mushroom

i don't think they say we came from apes and thats the end of the story ..... i think it extends back to single cell organisms .... so yeah, probably sponges .... call me mr mycelium

 

[Bandwagon]

How do you think we started? From an ape they say? Sure. But where did the ape come from? Originally we where just cells. All we are now are organisms which is a group of cells. Very smart ones at that. You my friend come from the mycelium world.
f**king mushroom

The primordial swamp, before that, stardust.

 

[Gary Gutful]

The primordial swamp, before that, stardust.

…and before that @Twizzle

 

[Bandwagon]

…and before that @Twizzle

Twizzle is the big bang?

f**k me, that's pretty old.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

i didn't watch the video, so i have no idea what he said

I saw video of what looked like JFKs head exploding - so I imagine he is dead

Lady Di .... I could conceive a version of things where she hated her life and they did something to make her "disappear" ..... but I'm more inclined to believe she was in a bad car crash that killed her


I don't think "conspiracy theories" are always crazy ....... its just a term that has been engineered into a way to hang shit on people and discredit them

I think the term was invented to deter questions about the JFK assassination, about which we just had some recent news suggesting the conspiracy theory was true.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I think the term was invented to deter questions about the JFK assassination, about which we just had some recent news suggesting the conspiracy theory was true.

Which JFK conspiracy theory? That the CIA did it?

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Which JFK conspiracy theory? That the CIA did it?

Yes

 

[Bandwagon]

I think the term was invented to deter questions about the JFK assassination, about which we just had some recent news suggesting the conspiracy theory was true.

Yeah nah, that's just another easily disproved conspiracy theory.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Yeah nah, that's just another easily disproved conspiracy theory.

Of course it was.

 

[Bandwagon]

Of course it was.

Is, not was. It's demonstrably false that the CIA coined the term.

There’s a conspiracy theory that the CIA invented the term ‘conspiracy theory’ – here’s why

John F Kennedy’s assassination was a turning point in how conspiracy theorists became viewed.

theconversation.com

 

[strider]

What are some conspiracy theories that aren’t crazy?

All of the popular ones seem pretty far fetched to me.

depends on what you think is "crazy"

if you had dressed in a robe, grown a beard and 15 years ago told me there are rich people procurring underaged girls for other rich people, including the queen's son, I would have had a good chuckle at you ..... obviously not so much now .... I wonder who else might be involved - I think its exceptionally hard to believe that Jeff and Andy are the only ones Ghislaine was shopping for

I don't know if Epstein offed himself .... there is plenty of weirdness in all that .... and there's a bunch of alternate theories on what else might have happened .... I don't think he offed himself, but I don't claim to know exactly what happened

Someone once showed me some stuff about 9/11 claiming that planes never flew into buildings .... which I think is crazy - I think planes flew into buildings ..... but there are unusual things about it - eg building 7 next door collapsed without any apparent damage while other damaged buildings didn't - and maybe its all legit - but there are odd things

who killed JFK? .... is it crazy to believe it wasn't Oswald? .... might there be a whole lot more to it? .... maybe?

did the yanks land on the moon? I think they did ..... but maybe its not ridiculous to believe it was staged to let the yanks win that part of the space race

I think thats why theories grow legs - cos there are often legit weird things that are not explained .... I actually think its a bit egotistical to believe that you yourself (not you gary, you as in everyone's self) know all the answers to everything

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Is, not was. It's demonstrably false that the CIA coined the term.

There’s a conspiracy theory that the CIA invented the term ‘conspiracy theory’ – here’s why

John F Kennedy’s assassination was a turning point in how conspiracy theorists became viewed.

theconversation.com

Sorry but you know, you being a left wing loony and all it counts for nothing. I mean it's on the internet ffs so obviously nonsense.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

depends on what you think is "crazy"

if you had dressed in a robe, grown a beard and 15 years ago told me there are rich people procurring underaged girls for other rich people, including the queen's son, I would have had a good chuckle at you ..... obviously not so much now .... I wonder who else might be involved - I think its exceptionally hard to believe that Jeff and Andy are the only ones Ghislaine was shopping for

I don't know if Epstein offed himself .... there is plenty of weirdness in all that .... and there's a bunch of alternate theories on what else might have happened .... I don't think he offed himself, but I don't claim to know exactly what happened

Someone once showed me some stuff about 9/11 claiming that planes never flew into buildings .... which I think is crazy - I think planes flew into buildings ..... but there are unusual things about it - eg building 7 next door collapsed without any apparent damage while other damaged buildings didn't - and maybe its all legit - but there are odd things

who killed JFK? .... is it crazy to believe it wasn't Oswald? .... might there be a whole lot more to it? .... maybe?

did the yanks land on the moon? I think they did ..... but maybe its not ridiculous to believe it was staged to let the yanks win that part of the space race

I think thats why theories grow legs - cos there are often legit weird things that are not explained .... I actually think its a bit egotistical to believe that you yourself (not you gary, you as in everyone's self) know all the answers to everything

Yes, plenty of shit happens that we only find out about later because that's how time works. And we know this because we know that In the past plenty of shit happened that only got found out later. Of those you mentioned there's some very wtf stuff, even for the moon landing. But whatever.

 

[Bandwagon]

Sorry but you know, you being a left wing loony and all it counts for nothing. I mean it's on the internet ffs so obviously nonsense.

Cool butthurt bro.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Cool butthurt bro.

Sorry but fair's fair. Night.

 

[Bandwagon]

Sorry but fair's fair. Night.

Good idea, get some sleep, you've had a rough day.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

This seems like another realistic scientist with some courage. Her story is interesting.

Climate heretic: Judith Curry turns on her colleagues - Nature

A feature from Scientific American.

www.nature.com