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[I'm a loser baby...]

I think I broke Gary.

 

[Gary Gutful]

He's melting.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I think I broke Gary.

*wind

 

[hindy111]

There are some very fine people who are from religions of all flavours. I see them and respect them.

This man deserves no defence and I think you’ve picked the wrong time to be Mr Nice Guy and defend the indefensible on this forum. Pick your fights better. You’re better than this.

Cardinal George Pell 'exposed himself to boys in 1980s'

Cardinal George Pell exposed himself to three young boys in a Torquay surf club change room, a local busine...

www.9news.com.au

Les Tyack says he saw a naked George Pell expose himself to three young boys in the Torquay surf club changerooms in the late 1980s.
The businessman said he told his wife and some friends about the incident 15 years ago and gave a statement to Victoria Police five years ago.
But he went public this week in a bid to encourage others to come forward.

"I thought there may be other situations that people have witnessed and have thought about it but never done anything about it," Mr Tyack told AAP on Thursday.
"I've got nothing against the church, nothing against anyone."
Mr Tyack said he regretted not talking to the boys or telling people at the surf club straight away about Cardinal Pell, who was then a senior priest in Melbourne.
"I'm thinking ... I've got no other witnesses ... who's going to believe me?" he said.

"I regretted that for a long, long time."
Mr Tyack said in a summer in the late 1980s he saw Cardinal Pell naked in the change room, facing three boys aged 8 to 10.
"I immediately thought that's odd, an adult doesn't do that in front of three young boys," Mr Tyack told AAP.
After a shower, Mr Tyack came out to find Cardinal Pell still naked in front of the boys, who left when Mr Tyack asked them to.
"I said to Pell, 'George I know what you're up to, piss off, don't come back into this club, if I see you back in here again I'll call the police'," Mr Tyack said.
According to Mr Tyack, Cardinal Pell didn't react and continued to get dressed.

George Pell: cardinal was aware of children being sexually abused, royal commission report finds

Previously redacted findings from the commission’s report into Pell’s handling of child sexual abuse claims have now been made public

www.theguardian.com

Cardinal George Pell and Vicarious liability of the Church - Salerno Law

Cardinal George Pell and Vicarious liability of the Church *Trigger Warning: This article discusses child sexual assault, suicide, and contains descriptive information about sexual assault. This may be sensitive for some readers. If you are at risk or have been a victim of sexual assault, we...

salernolaw.com.au

Yes I agree with you. PELL is a merkin. But you do mock religion and why it annoyed me. I'm letting you off on this one maybe I missread and took the wrong way so I apologise.

 

[hindy111]

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Your sausage looks f**ked. Nice fingernails btw.

 

[Bandwagon]

f**k Pell and all his mates that saw the protection of the institution of the church as more important than the lives of children being destroyed by the likes of Ridsdale and co.

And f**k any merkin that thinks it's ok to look past that and glorify the man, f**k them them all.

 

[Gronk]

Just to add to the Merkinness of Pell, don’t forget that:

1. He was the architect of The Melbourne Response. A cold and calculated method of quarantining church assets in trusts. Claims against the church for sexual abuse were handled without admission of liability and victims were offered take it or leave it token payments, shrouded in the secrecy of confidentially deeds.

https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-releases/report-melbourne-response-released

2. He said this when he was at peak merkin.

Did Cardinal George Pell Say Abortion Was Worse Than Sexual Abuse of Children?

The head of the Vatican's Secretariat for the Economy has declined to backtrack on his controversial July 2002 statement.

www.snopes.com

 

[Gronk]

Yes I agree with you. PELL is a merkin. But you do mock religion and why it annoyed me. I'm letting you off on this one maybe I missread and took the wrong way so I apologise.

Why should religion be immune from examination, criticism and ridicule ?

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Why should religion be immune from examination, criticism and ridicule ?

Examination and criticism yes, I'm not so sure about ridicule.

 

[Gronk]

Examination and criticism yes, I'm not so sure about ridicule.

This should be respected ?

 

[Soren Lorenson]

This should be respected ?


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Well the first person has a genuine belief that Trump is God's plan. I have encountered this myself. The second pic, well they should be criticised in the harshest possible way, yes. But personally I do draw a distinction between the people and the religion. No sane and reasonable person thinks that way.

 

[hindy111]

Why should religion be immune from examination, criticism and ridicule ?

Firstly you are back tracking.
You're not religious or spiritual. That's fine I wont try and change you. You have a choice as a grown adult on what will bring you peace in life.
I am spiritual and have been enlightened. I was also raised catholic and knew a lot of very good cahtolic priests. Very good people a lot of them. I'm not defending what the filth did. They should rot.
But yes I find the way you have talked about religion in poor taste a lot of the time.

 

[Gronk]

Firstly you are back tracking.

Back tracking how ?

You're not religious or spiritual.

You’re guessing and dipping your toe in dark waters if you want to debate the term “spiritual but not religious”.

That's fine I wont try and change you.

Lol, thanks.

I am spiritual and have been enlightened.

ok

But yes I find the way you have talked about religion in poor taste a lot of the time.

We circle back to what I said in the first instance. Why should religion be immune from examination, criticism and ridicule ? Hundreds of posts by you are in poor taste, so why should you be able to post stuff as you like, but all of a sudden you are being all judgy about religion? Can you see the hypocrisy?

 

[hindy111]

Back tracking how ?

You’re guessing and dipping your toe in dark waters if you want to debate the term “spiritual but not religious”.

Lol, thanks.


ok


We circle back to what I said in the first instance. Why should religion be immune from examination, criticism and ridicule ? Hundreds of posts by you are in poor taste, so why should you be able to post stuff as you like, but all of a sudden you are being all judgy about religion? Can you see the hypocrisy?

I feel like your gas lighted, hyperboling and using circular logic.
Find one example of anything ive said that was slightly offensive.

 

[Noise]

I feel like your gas lighted, hyperboling and using circular logic.
Find one example of anything ive said that was slightly offensive.

Did Gronk actually say anything offensive towards Catholicism? As far as I can tell he is calling Cardinal Pell a merkin. Which most people (including you) agree with.

 

[Gronk]

Nothing to see here, move along.

 

[hindy111]

Did Gronk actually say anything offensive towards Catholicism? As far as I can tell he is calling Cardinal Pell a merkin. Which most people (including you) agree with.

Maybe I mis interpreted. He said God had different plans. I took it as a bit of a Mock towards God. I've apologies and moved on with this beautiful life I have been given.
Peace be with you mate.
I love you all

 

[Gary Gutful]

I love you all

*youse

 

[hindy111]

*youse

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Our greatest ever sportsman's hands down. Maltese background as well. Legend

 

[strider]

Maybe I mis interpreted. He said God had different plans. I took it as a bit of a Mock towards God. I've apologies and moved on with this beautiful life I have been given.
Peace be with you mate.
I love you all

I think thats well explained ... i think it was a mock

Tho people like Pell havent done religion any favours and definitely opened things up to a mocking