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[I'm a loser baby...]

"Why can't we all just get along"


And Cooker is the worst insult i have heard since Boomer.

No it's a devastating insult and marks out a truly original thinker. Double down I say.

 

[hindy111]

Some of the commentary about her has been disgraceful. That said, a lot of politicians cop similar. The reality is that they do a job that 99% of the muppet commentators wouldn’t be able to handle.

I feel I would be in the 1% along with @TheRam

 

[Bandwagon]

No it's a devastating insult and marks out a truly original thinker. Double down I say.

Nah, it's just a derogatory label for merkins who are cooked, it's neither meant to be original or devastating.

Just descriptive, and like most good labels, it is exactly that.

 

[Gronk]

No it's a devastating insult and marks out a truly original thinker. Double down I say.

Everybody has an opinion.

 

[Gronk]

The Chem trails spotter lockdown whinger sovereign citzen cooker collected cash for Lismore Flood Victims and allegedly spent the cash.

The Sydney Morning Herald reported in May 2022 that Mr Oneeglio told his 73,000 Telegram followers he was only a volunteer of the charity. Mr Oneeglio told the Herald the money that was sent to his account was for expenses incurred during his volunteering efforts, including repairs to his jet ski and truck.

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/courts-law/conspiracy-theorist-david-oneeglio-accused-of-dodgy-flood-fundraiser/news-story/78a83a01b52ce4bdbdefda240943c151

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[the phantom menace]

 

[Eelogical]

Australia Day seems plenty political enough these days so I assume it's fine enough to discuss it in a civil manner in this thread. I'm generalising, but it seems that the chorus of discontent surrounding 26/1 continues to get stronger each year. My stance is no surprise to my personal real life peers. Like most Aussies I celebrate the day like I always have. A beer and a BBQ, friends. It's not a bad thing to do considering I had no involvement in events from over two centuries ago, but I'm increasingly being made to feel like I was part of an invasion and that we should choose another day to 'celebrate' Australia. Thoughts/comments?

 

[hindy111]

Australia Day seems plenty political enough these days so I assume it's fine enough to discuss it in a civil manner in this thread. I'm generalising, but it seems that the chorus of discontent surrounding 26/1 continues to get stronger each year. My stance is no surprise to my personal real life peers. Like most Aussies I celebrate the day like I always have. A beer and a BBQ, friends. It's not a bad thing to do considering I had no involvement in events from over two centuries ago, but I'm increasingly being made to feel like I was part of an invasion and that we should choose another day to 'celebrate' Australia. Thoughts/comments?

 

[hindy111]

I am honestly not fussed either way. I don't celebrate it. Not cause I don't want to but I am not a party type. More then happy to go up to the local Vietnamese, Indian, Thai or Italian restruant to enjoy an Australia day feed wih a friend. But probably not going to put lamb on the BBQ.
My issue with moving it would be people behind it. Let the Aboriginals vote. It seems your young Lefties who know f**k all about Australian history are behind the whole thing. What will they winge about next?

 

[Eelogical]

I am honestly not fussed either way. I don't celebrate it. Not cause I don't want to but I am not a party type. More then happy to go up to the local Vietnamese, Indian, Thai or Italian restruant to enjoy an Australia day feed wih a friend. But probably not going to put lamb on the BBQ.
My issue with moving it would be people behind it. Let the Aboriginals vote. It seems your young Lefties who know f**k all about Australian history are behind the whole thing. What will they winge about next?

It's a contentious issue. I use the term 'celebrate' loosely regarding Australia Day. In my life's journey there was a time when it was a day off work and merkins would get on the piss using AD as a reason. There were also times when us locals would block off the street, collectively cook snags on a makeshift BBQ and have fun playing street cricket with the kids. We spent an OZ day on Sydney Harbour about 10 years ago - the buzz was electric. Should I feel shame for all of that? Nowadays they are chipping around the edges to get at least get it changed to another day, which will most likely be called a totally different name. In itself, the new day's date (if it ever happens) will be decided by an intense waste of time and money.

 

[Gronk]

It seems your young Lefties who know f**k all about Australian history are behind the whole thing. What will they winge about next?

You’re trolling merkin.

 

[the phantom menace]

It's a public holiday, and (like any other public holiday we get) for that I am thankful. As per any other public holiday I spend the day however suits (family/friends catch-up, home, getting jobs done etc) - it varies, but I don't "celebrate Australia" as such on this date. I just celebrate that I don't have to f**king work that day..

The chosen date makes no sense in terms of celebrating Australia anyway - Phillip wasn't the first european to land here, and the colony of NSW that landing date signifies was only one of six separate self-governing colonies (states) which came together to form what we now know as Australia. Relevant dates relating to federation as Australia were 5 July (1900 - passage of act through UK parliament), 9 July (1900 - royal assent by Queen Victoria), and 1 January (1901 - proclaimed in Centennial Park with first PM sworn in).

Keep a national public holiday, but pick a better date so it's not so offensive to people with indigenous ancestry whose sovereignty over the lands were never ceded. Maybe we have to wait until we successfully vote to become a republic for any proposal to shift our national holiday date to be even more widely accepted?

 

[Gronk]

Australia Day seems plenty political enough these days so I assume it's fine enough to discuss it in a civil manner in this thread. I'm generalising, but it seems that the chorus of discontent surrounding 26/1 continues to get stronger each year. My stance is no surprise to my personal real life peers. Like most Aussies I celebrate the day like I always have. A beer and a BBQ, friends. It's not a bad thing to do considering I had no involvement in events from over two centuries ago, but I'm increasingly being made to feel like I was part of an invasion and that we should choose another day to 'celebrate' Australia. Thoughts/comments?

It’s only been 26/1 since the 80’s when all the states all landed on the same date.

If the date upset the jews of Bellevue Hill, we’d change the date in a flash. If it upsets our indigenous folk, the conservatives circle the wagons and act like we are drowning kittens.

 

[Eelogical]

It’s only been 26/1 since the 80’s when all the states all landed on the same date.

If the date upset the jews of Bellevue Hill, we’d change the date in a flash. If it upsets our indigenous folk, the conservatives circle the wagons and act like we are drowning kittens.

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No matter which way we see it the collective community must be tired of the division it creates. After all, Australia is a continually shifting multi-cultural country these days. New immigrants don't really have a grasp on colonial OZ history, no more than our current younger generations. I dare you to ask these three questions of any person from a younger generation than yourself.
1. Name the first three European explorers who crossed the Blue Mountains.
2. Who was the Commander Of The First fleet?
3. What was the name of Captain Cook's exploratory ship to the south seas and Australia?

In today's world none of this appears to matter, yet we continually look back to find ways to divide the country and make white Australia the source target. I dare say that the vast majority of Aussies like myself would love to share cultures with other ethnicities and move on.

 

[Gronk]

Solved.

 

[Twizzle]

A lot of the argument raised on social media is "we don't want to celebrate massacre and invasion".

Personally, I don't see the relevance of that statement, as neither I nor anyone I know intentionally celebrate the massacre of our first nations people. I simply celebrate being Australian and living in this country. I also have a fair number of indigenous mates and none have raised an issue, to me anyway.

The 26th of January was chosen in the 80s as the day to be referred to as Australia Day. If we shift the date again, and I have no issues with moving it, it starts another shit fight as to what day will be suitable, as 26 Jan was chosen for a reason.

I honestly don't see a solution that will satisfy everyone but I think the indigenous voice will continue to gain support and it will eventually be moved.

 

[Eelogical]

Solved.

And this only reinforces my opinion on where we're at as a society.

 

[Eelogical]

A lot of the argument raised on social media is "we don't want to celebrate massacre and invasion".

Personally, I don't see the relevance of that statement, as neither I nor anyone I know intentionally celebrate the massacre of our first nations people. I simply celebrate being Australian and living in this country. I also have a fair number of indigenous mates and none have raised an issue, to me anyway.

The 26th of January was chosen in the 80s as the day to be referred to as Australia Day. If we shift the date again, and I have no issues with moving it, it starts another shit fight as to what day will be suitable, as 26 Jan was chosen for a reason.

I honestly don't see a solution that will satisfy everyone but I think the indigenous voice will continue to gain support and it will eventually be moved.

I agree with all of this, but I somehow see that activists have to activate to remain relevant, no matter the cost.

 

[hindy111]

You’re trolling merkin.

Am I .? Listen merkin I lean a little to the left. But f**k me some of the extreme lefties around my area are of their tits. Some of the dribble that comes out of their mouth is ridiculous. It is annoying and not realistic. Accusing Liberal of running the country like a business. Reality check - It is a buisness. If we don't run our country like one we will go broke.

As far as moving the day -

If I celebrated my birthday on the same day with my housemates every year. But one house mate never felt comfortable joining in. Untill I asked why and they said sorry but its the day my Mum died. Wpuld I be happy to celebrate it the following week so they could join in?
Then answer is YES.

Sure we have history but circumstances change. We are aware it upsets a lot of people so if they want to move it its fine with me.

But these rabbits who just want to jump up and down are probably the same wankers who will join the next protest

 

[hindy111]

A lot of the argument raised on social media is "we don't want to celebrate massacre and invasion".

Personally, I don't see the relevance of that statement, as neither I nor anyone I know intentionally celebrate the massacre of our first nations people. I simply celebrate being Australian and living in this country. I also have a fair number of indigenous mates and none have raised an issue, to me anyway.

The 26th of January was chosen in the 80s as the day to be referred to as Australia Day. If we shift the date again, and I have no issues with moving it, it starts another shit fight as to what day will be suitable, as 26 Jan was chosen for a reason.

I honestly don't see a solution that will satisfy everyone but I think the indigenous voice will continue to gain support and it will eventually be moved.

I'd tell the Prince Charles to f**k off and move it to that day I did.