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And, Terry Campese has walked away from Labor as a candidate for Monaro. His reason being that politics is not about what some can do for people. It's all about win at all costs. Well, go figure. That is true for both parties.
Just saw your edit... I think you'll find there's more to why TC stepped down as candidate.


It probably only equates to the same level as Dominic's 21st Hitler costume... but Perrottet remains in place because the LNP have virtually no potential leaders left who aren't already beset by unfolding scandals.
 

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I’m a little uncomfortable with how there seems to be political interference in how the police force operates and who it prosecutes.

I’m the first to poo poo conspiracies, but even I am having a WTF moment.

Now this Guru guy might be a mad merkin lockdown cooker, but a person of interest to Strike Force Raptor ? Yesterday he was arrested for domestic terrorism and they allegedly found a quantity of drugs in his possession?


Then you look at the case of professional shit stirrer Jordan Shanks and the arrests, court cases and fire bombing of his house. The fixated persons unit (set up after the Lindt Cafe seige) was (allegedly) sent after him and his producer by John Barrilaro. If you have 40 mins and can look past his smug humour, it’s worth a watch.

 

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Guru Gronk, conpiracy theorist extraordinaire

Of course there is dodgy shit going on ..... the cops trump up any charges they can to shut down shit stirrers. And yes, im sure the direction comes from up the food chain. Part of their MO is slap you with some trumped up shit and try to coerce you into agreeing to ridiculous bail conditions.

Good to see you waking up a little .... even if your awakening is only motivated by calling out the dodgy LNP (like the other side dont do the same lol)
 

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Talking about stitch-ups, the story of the Croatian Six will no doubt be made into a movie.



 

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Yet, the Labor opposition has only committed to an already approved PLR Stage 2, which the current Govt has already in planning and will build anyway.

So what else are they planning?
Well, pretty much nothing.
They are just talking shit. Just like when they were last in Govt.
Minns has already been outed that he cannot show how he will pay for any infrastructure anyway, whatever that is he has planned. Which is nothing.
\https://www.freshstartplan.com.au/roads-and-transport/

Absolutely hilarious.
 

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Looks like Minns has finally promised something in terms of transport, being some brain fart about "moar express trainz":


www.chrisminns.com.au

More Express Train Services


www.chrisminns.com.au
www.chrisminns.com.au

It doesn't specifically say which services will be reintroduced, but the blurb about Padstow and Riverwood no longer having express services, as well as where he filmed this video, gives a big hint:

This will help deal with the transport issues that are facing communities like Riverwood, which has not only seen express services cut from Riverwood and Padstow Stations but where bus connections from Peakhurst and Lugarno to the station do not properly connect to train services.
Because clearly what everybody who uses the outer half of the T8 line, many who travel from places further beyond the terminus like Camden or the Southern Highlands, want is to stop at some of the stations along the quad track section that was specifically built at great cost so that the longer distance services could skip those stations.

But no, he's probably chasing a seat in that area, so he has to promise an express train for every single station!!11

lol.
 
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I wonder what Minn's plans are moving forward?
He doesn't say much other than just trying to talk shit about nothing.

Though, the current Govt has delivered....


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Schools
  • Armidale Secondary College
  • Artarmon Public School Upgrade
  • Auburn North Public School
  • Ballina Coast High School
  • Croydon Public School
  • Epping Public School
  • Marsden High School
  • Meadowbank Public
  • Monaro High School
  • Newcastle East Public School
  • Parramatta Public School
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  • Queanbeyan High School
  • Tirriwirri School
  • West Ryde Public School
  • Porters Creek Public School
  • Wentworthville Public School
  • Willoughby Girls High School

Hospitals
  • Bankstown-Lidcombe ED
  • Blacktown & Mt Druitt Hospitals
  • Coffs Harbour Hospital Expansion
  • Cooma Hospital Redevelopment
  • Dubbo Hospital - Stages 1-4
  • Dubbo Western Cancer Centre
  • Inverell Hospital
  • John Hunter Children’s Hospital NICU
  • Macksville Hospital Redevelopment
  • Maitland Hospital
  • Manning Base Hospital
  • Mona Vale Hospital Reconfiguration
  • Muswellbrook Hospital Redevelopment Stage 2
  • Port Macquarie Mental Health Expansion
  • St George Hospital Birthing Suite & Theatre Refurbishment
  • Tumut Hospital Redevelopment
  • Wagga Wagga Base Hospital
  • Western Sydney Plant Centre
  • Westmead Hospital Redevelopment Stage 1
  • Wyong Hospital Car Park

  • Albion Park Rail Bypass
  • Berry to Bomaderry Upgrade
  • Bolivia Hill Upgrade
  • CBD and Southeast Light Rail
  • Easing Sydney’s Congestion, Pinch Points and Clearways Packages 1 and 2
  • Gateway to the South Pinch Points
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  • Henry Lawson Drive Upgrade
  • M1 Widening Central Coast
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Culture & Precincts
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  • Western Sydney Plant Centre
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And has in planning.....





2023 2024 2025+

Schools

  • Edmondson Park New Primary School
  • Googong New Primary School
  • Gregory Hills New Primary School
  • Murrumbateman New Primary School
  • Wee Waa High School redevelopment
  • Gledswood Hills Public School Glenwood High School Upgrade
  • Green Square New Primary School
  • Murwillumbah Education Campus
  • Randwick Girls and Boys High Schools
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Hospitals
  • Albury Hospital ED Crisis Assessment Unit
  • Westmead Redevelopment Stage 1A and 1B and The Children’s Hospital Stage 1
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  • Port Macquarie Hospital Helipad Relocation and Car Park
  • Bankstown and Lidcombe Hospital Redevelopment
  • Liverpool Health and Academic Precinct
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Transport and Roads
  • Nelson Bay road improvements – Section 1
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  • WestConnex M4-M8 Link
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  • Five Mile restoration
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  • Hume Highway heavy duty pavement upgrade,
  • Jenolan Caves Road
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  • M12 Motorway
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  • Sydney Metro West
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  • Zero Emission Buses
Culture & Precincts
  • Castle Hill Powerhouse Discovery Centre Expansion
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  • Royal Coast Track Improvements
  • State Library Rooftop Revitalisation
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  • Pacific Gallery – Relocation and Expansion
  • Sydney Fish Market
  • White Bay Power Station Conservation
  • Circular Quay Renewal
  • Lake Macquarie Sport and Recreation Centre
  • National Art School Precinct Renewal
  • Powerhouse Paramatta
  • Ultimo Powerhouse M






And, what do we have from Minns?
Oh yeah, Parra Light Rail 2 which is going to be built anyway by the current govt.

Oh, and that's a laughable claim about express train services. WTF is that about?
Train services are 100 times better than they were 12 years ago, including the union run Sydney trains when they ain't on strike.
Timetables are amazing atm.
Services have been massively increased.
 
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NSW LNP Finally got rid of the porn-posting MP, and kicked him off their ticket for 35 days time.

Not Dominic acting decisively as a parliamentary leader mind you, but the parliamentary party (back room faceless people). Perrottet originally stood by Poulos when these revelations became public.
 
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I wonder what Minn's plans are moving forward?
He doesn't say much other than just trying to talk shit about nothing.

Over the last two years, my Labor team and I have travelled our great state, listening to you.

Everywhere we’ve gone, we’ve heard that things could be better: more teachers for our schools; more healthcare workers and beds for hospitals; more accessible transport, more affordable housing; and an environment that we can enjoy now and into the future.

The community knows what’s needed. And after 12 long years, all it takes is a government that will listen and deliver a better future for you, your family and businesses right across NSW.

That’s where Labor’s Fresh Start Plan comes in.

We’ll make NSW’s education system world-class again, rejuvenating our preschools, schools and TAFE. We’ll repair and rebuild our health system after 12 years of neglect. We’ll increase access to affordable and reliable transport and cap road tolls to reduce the burden on the family budget. We’ll make good, sustainable housing attainable for buyers and renters. We’ll end the privatisation of our energy assets and legislate net zero by 2050. We’ll build an economy that is resilient and works for people and small businesses – not the other way around.

And that’s just the start.
 

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even if your awakening is only motivated by calling out the dodgy LNP (like the other side dont do the same lol)
The only one who played the poltics card yesterday was you. The doctrine of the separation pf powers should allow a police commissioner to tell a politician to get f**ked.


 

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Minns has already been outed that he cannot show how he will pay for any infrastructure anyway, whatever that is he has planned. Which is nothing.
\https://www.freshstartplan.com.au/roads-and-transport/

Absolutely hilarious.

Just on this point.

If the current government is already planning to spend tens or hundreds of billions on infrastructure, then why would that same money not be available to an alternative government?

The whole where's the money gonna come from thing has become little more than a meaningless trope, either they get it from general revenue, or they borrow it. In terms of infrastructure in particular, if the project doesn't provide enough benefit to justify borrowing the money, then it doesn't provide enough benefit to spend the money at all.

If alternatively it's being raised as part of a PPP, then the private sector sees value in ROI in their stake in the project. Particularly if the risk in the project is all worn by the government at any rate. If there is a viable return, then the PPP isn't really needed financially, as the return would generally have to be in excess of the bond rate in order for it to be at all an attractive investment.

Further if the government isn't borrowing to pay for any given project, it's taxing it's citizens to pay for it. Of course if the project doesn't provide a return it 's taxing to repay the borrowings.

What irks me though is that once you you have a project that does make a return, is that return is little more than a deferral of tax to the folks that use it at any rate. So we get asset recycling, where the government can build shit, claim it has no impact on the budget, and they won't need to raise taxes, because at the end of the day, the "deferred tax" is paid to the private sector instead, and realised as profit.

From that I think it reasonable to assert that the current status quo is that the governmant lays claim to building much of this infrastructure by being little more than a facilitator of the private sector, and in doing so transfers what would otherwise be taxes, into what is now profit, essentially gifting the private sector the same guaranteed income streams as taxes are for the government.

An example of how ridiculous this is, is Minns policy on limiting the amount of tolls you will pay, and the reality that it will cost the state billions of dollars. It's perverse because what it amounts to is a tax cut, being funded by taxes ( yeah, what the f**k? ), that then props up private sector profits. What's wrong there is not so much the policy itself, rather that there is any need for the policy to exist in the first place.
 

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Just on this point.

If the current government is already planning to spend tens or hundreds of billions on infrastructure, then why would that same money not be available to an alternative government?

The whole where's the money gonna come from thing has become little more than a meaningless trope, either they get it from general revenue, or they borrow it. In terms of infrastructure in particular, if the project doesn't provide enough benefit to justify borrowing the money, then it doesn't provide enough benefit to spend the money at all.

If alternatively it's being raised as part of a PPP, then the private sector sees value in ROI in their stake in the project. Particularly if the risk in the project is all worn by the government at any rate. If there is a viable return, then the PPP isn't really needed financially, as the return would generally have to be in excess of the bond rate in order for it to be at all an attractive investment.

Further if the government isn't borrowing to pay for any given project, it's taxing it's citizens to pay for it. Of course if the project doesn't provide a return it 's taxing to repay the borrowings.

What irks me though is that once you you have a project that does make a return, is that return is little more than a deferral of tax to the folks that use it at any rate. So we get asset recycling, where the government can build shit, claim it has no impact on the budget, and they won't need to raise taxes, because at the end of the day, the "deferred tax" is paid to the private sector instead, and realised as profit.

From that I think it reasonable to assert that the current status quo is that the governmant lays claim to building much of this infrastructure by being little more than a facilitator of the private sector, and in doing so transfers what would otherwise be taxes, into what is now profit, essentially gifting the private sector the same guaranteed income streams as taxes are for the government.

An example of how ridiculous this is, is Minns policy on limiting the amount of tolls you will pay, and the reality that it will cost the state billions of dollars. It's perverse because what it amounts to is a tax cut, being funded by taxes ( yeah, what the f**k? ), that then props up private sector profits. What's wrong there is not so much the policy itself, rather that there is any need for the policy to exist in the first place.


If I was really bored I would read that. Actually I probably wouldn't
 

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A new flag. Far to many colours. What where they thinking?
It is shit on the eyes. Anyone else sick of hearing all this?
I'm happy to hang with anyone. I think majority of people now are acceptable of most other peoples sexuality or religion or race.

I feel like if we all want to be equal and blend in having special flags and events and days to celebrate is only creating separation. It's fine if your an LGBTQ+ Bit over hearing about it everyday.
What about others who aren't accepted and have no friends just for being weird merkins. Atleast these people have a community and friends.

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TLDR version

The government is analing you like a rabbit for the benefit of it's mates in big infrastructure


I understand I should care. I just do not. The way the world is run I have zero control over. I understand things are not equal.

I am not fussed on wealth. It is more about the personal achievement. If reaching your goal was by cheating doesn't that defeat the purpose? Seems a little pointless to me.
 

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