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Bandwagon

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I think you'll find between the end of WW2 and the next election in 2025 it is
Chifley - 4 years
Whitlam - 3 years
Hawke - 9 years
Keating - 4 years
Rudd/Gillard/Rudd - 6 years
Also - 3 years

So excluding the 9 year Hawke era it will be 20 out of 71 years, or 29 out of 80 with Hawke included.

Yeah what I said, 27 to now, 29 by the time the next election.

But if we remove the Pig Iron Bob years because reasons...............
 

Bandwagon

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........reasons of which there are some that are pretty legitimate, I mean the schism was a thing, which literally made it impossible for Labor to hold government

For those unaware...


and from that.....

On two occasions—1961 and 1969—Labor actually won a majority of the two-party vote, but DLP preferences resulted in Labor coming up just short of ending the Coalition's hold on government.
 

Suitman

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Mmmmm. Didn't take State Labor long.

James O’Doherty: Transport boss selection process has echoes of Barilaro affair
As opposition leader, Chris Minns was quick to slam ex-deputy premier John Barilaro being picked for a plum position. The selection process of the new Transport for NSW boss raises similar concerns, writes James O’Doherty.

James O'Doherty

Daily Telegraph: Opinion. August 17, 2023 - 5:44PM

Cabinet meetings are usually top-secret discussions between ministers of the Crown, who are bound by oath not to disclose what goes on.

But this week’s meeting had a special guest.
I can reveal that the Independent Commission Against Corruption used Tuesday’s meeting as an opportunity to remind members if Premier Chris Minns’ cabinet of their legal obligations under the Ministerial Code of Conduct.
As part of that presentation, the ICAC’s Chief Commissioner John Hatzistergos gave ministers an annotated copy of that code, complete with notes explaining what is, and is not, allowed.
The reminder came too late for dumped minister Tim Crakanthorp, who was sacked earlier this month for failing to disclose his family’s extensive property empire.
But it was, perhaps, timely for Transport Minister Jo Haylen, who stands accused of interfering (via her office) in a “merit-based selection process” to hand-pick her preferred candidate for one of the most important jobs in the bureaucracy.
That candidate was Josh Murray, a former Labor staffer-turned-Laing O’Rourke executive. He also happens to be a member of the Labor Party.

In July, a government media release said Murray’s appointment followed “a market testing and recruitment process led by the Acting Secretary of the Premier’s Department, Peter Duncan AM, in consultation with the Minister for Transport, Jo Haylen”.
The only problem? The panel put in place to evaluate candidates did not think Murray was the best candidate. And the minister’s office appears to have been pushing Murray from the start.
When the job was first advertised, Haylen’s Chief of Staff Scott Gartrell sent the job listing to Murray, who applied on May 19.
On May 23, Murray texted Gartrell to thank him for “checking in”.
“I had an email from (recruitment firm) NGS Global last Friday confirming they had all my materials,” he said.
Gartrell then said that Murray should be interviewed for the job, despite NGS Global initially suggesting that Murray did not have the “level of operational complexity required for this role”.

Later, the recruitment firm warned that Murray’s appointment would be a “significant risk” because he lacked “large-scale strategic, operational or people leadership experience”.
Eventually, the evaluation panel found Murray to be “very suitable” to be the next Transport boss.
However, he was ranked behind top Transport bureaucrat Benedicte Colin, who was deemed “highly suitable”.
Haylen was asked to pick between the two, which she did hours after interviewing them on a Saturday morning.
“Josh is a better fit for the department and for me at this time and is therefore my preferred candidate,” she told the acting Department of Premier and Cabinet secretary.
As Transport Minister, Haylen can choose whoever she wants to lead her department.
The government also wanted someone who would bring a fresh start, rather than someone who may bring baggage from the last government.
That is all fine.
Murray may end up being a good appointment; as Minns says, the proof will be in the pudding.
Haylen could have just appointed Murray from the outset and avoided all the fuss. However, she spent $125,000 on a “merit-based selection process” which ultimately suggested someone else would be more suitable for the job.
Haylen has said that she appointed the external panel to “reassure” herself that the best candidates had applied.
Essentially, the whole process was a $125,000 vibe check.
Now the minister is tying herself in knots trying to defend the actions very similar to those Labor slammed when former deputy premier John Barilaro was selected for a plum New York trade role.
Incredibly, Haylen has even claimed that her chief of staff “did not tell the independent panel who to interview”.
Except, in fact, he did.

On May 30, Gartrell told the chair of the assessment panel put in place to shortlist candidates that a proposed shortlist was “pretty underwhelming!”.
“Josh Murray should be interviewed as well,” he said.
Haylen has also admitted that her office intervened to get Murray an interview.
“Well, yes, my office did provide additional names to be interviewed,” she told 2GB, when explaining how Murray appeared on the final shortlist.
Haylen denies lying about her chief of staff’s involvement, claiming that he was just “making a suggestion”.
That is too cute by half.
Haylen clearly wanted Josh Murray to be the man running her department. She should have just appointed him in the first place, rather than trying to hide behind a sham process.
The Coalition believes that Haylen has serious questions to answer about whether she breached the Ministerial Code of Conduct over the saga.
Last week, the ICAC warned ministers that anything unlikely to pass “the pub test” should be referred to the corruption watchdog.

The guidelines said ministers should report anything that “a reasonable person in the community would consider the alleged conduct to be dubious or improper”.
Asked on Thursday if the Transport boss appointment passed the pub test, Haylen said a defiant “yes”.
Ultimately, that is a question only the public can answer.
 

Gronk

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So elon is changing twitter aka X so you can’t mute or block. That’s upset some people for various reasons from the “i just don’t want to hear those opinions” to “protection of mental health”. Whats the business case for this ? So advertisers have full access to all eyes ? But won’t it make it an (even more) undesirable cesspool ?

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Bandwagon

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Of course it is, but whether it works or not is another thing. I'd be guessin' there'd be plenty of folks on the Twitters that'll be a bit pissed off when they can't say whatever the f**k they like with impunity.
 

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I know Pat because of something I do in another part of my life. What he did over the past months has been super human and the cause is inarguable. The sacrifices that he and his wife Tania have had to make to achieve this is mind boggling. *Three Cheers*.

More to come, as he finishes in the red centre.


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All the big issues were dealt with.

Trump said Biden “can’t lift his feet out of the grass” when he walks to the helicopter on the White House lawn. “And then you see him on the beach where he can’t lift a chair. Those chairs are meant to be light, right?”

“I don’t know what they’re doing with the beach,” Trump said. “The beach seems to be playing a big role. They love pictures of him on the beach. I think he looks terrible on the beach.” He added that the beach “doesn’t represent what the president is supposed to be doing.”




Dude, you're both as old as Dumbledore. Shut up.

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TheRam

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All the big issues were dealt with.

Trump said Biden “can’t lift his feet out of the grass” when he walks to the helicopter on the White House lawn. “And then you see him on the beach where he can’t lift a chair. Those chairs are meant to be light, right?”

“I don’t know what they’re doing with the beach,” Trump said. “The beach seems to be playing a big role. They love pictures of him on the beach. I think he looks terrible on the beach.” He added that the beach “doesn’t represent what the president is supposed to be doing.”




Dude, you're both as old as Dumbledore. Shut up.

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You're such a loser! Even with over 240 million people watching and supporting this interview you think you are capable of putting sh*t on him. Hahahahahahahaha.....

Mate I know you are a socialist twit, but give it up. The world is heading into major collapse on so many fronts and levels due to all the Globalist/Marxist/Fascist policies that you and they have supported and enforced upon us and you still sit here plugging away your pathetic dogma nonsense.

You really are a fool. They will come after you too you know? I don't think you have a get out of jail free card or a pass to the bunker mate, so what makes you think you will be spared? Stockholm Syndrome perhaps? Either way, you are cactus just like all the rest of us. There will be no where to run. Once they get the digital ID and central bank digital currencies(CBDC) in place, things will move fairly quickly from there. The internet will be locked down and access will only be allowed for people using digital ID's and only to sanctioned and approved sites. Restriction on travel and movement will be common place. Medical ID's and everything that comes with that will be part of it too. Power restrictions and food(protein in particular) will be controlled and limited in variety. And it will just keep coming and getting worse. These things are just around the corner mate. They are telling us all the time. They aren't hiding it, they just justify everything and hang it all on Climate change, the looming catastrophe that just keeps on giving.

Trump won't stop them or save us, but to be so blinded and propagandised by them is very sad and you are one of the ones that will not see the bullet coming until it is to late. I hope I'm totally wrong and you and everyone can laugh at me in years to come, but I fear by 2030 we will know one way or another. I truly fear for what is about to come. Lets hope I'm totally wrong.
 

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