OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Chipmunk]

No, the OP works for SkyNews and she is advocating for JNP to be PM material. My angle is that she is either gaslighting by being hyperbolic about this woman’s prominence and respect in the liberal party or she she lives on another planet because the libs would never vote a woman as their leader and an ingenious one at that ? Not until hell freezes over (due to cyclical weather patterns).

I think your view on them never voting for a women to be leader is probably incorrect, as it's previously been done at State level.

Based on the current composition of the Liberal Party in the Australian Parliament, who would be deserving of being leader ahead of the current person?

 

[Gronk]

I think your view on them never voting for a women to be leader is probably incorrect, as it's previously been done at State level.

State politics has shown time and time again to be far more centred than the feds.

Based on the current composition of the Liberal Party in the Australian Parliament, who would be deserving of being leader ahead of the current person?

Deserving ? That's an odd qualifier. Who determines that ?

I know who they won't vote for. A woman to lead their federal liberal party. Same goes with the Nats.

 

[Chipmunk]

State politics has shown time and time again to be far more centred than the feds.

Deserving ? That's an odd qualifier. Who determines that ?

I know who they won't vote for. A woman to lead their federal liberal party. Same goes with the Nats.

State politics has different issues it deals with (Health, Education, etc.) so needs to be more to the centre.

The Australian people are the ones who determine who is deserving, not the twitterati.

There has never been a suitable female candidate to lead the Liberal Party federally.

And you can't say Julie Bishop, because just like other times 'moderates' have lead the Liberal Party (i.e. Andrew Peacock and Malcolm Turnbull) in the last 40 years, the vote of the Liberal Party has been reduced at the subsequent Federal election.

A 'moderate' has never lead the Liberal Party into Government federally in its history, and it never will, male or female. The facts need to be stated, the Liberal Party is a conservative party, and the mainstream media and those with views of the left need to get over this fact and move on.

Let's also remember, the only time a woman has lead the Labor Party, their vote was also significantly reduced at an election. Now I'll admit this is a very small sample size, and there was more to that than the individual though.

Why would any party have a woman lead it if it isn't the best candidate? Even the Greens have more than 50% females in their party federally and choose a bloke to lead it.

 

[Gronk]

State politics has different issues it deals with (Health, Education, etc.) so needs to be more to the centre.

The Australian people are the ones who determine who is deserving, not the twitterati.

There has never been a suitable female candidate to lead the Liberal Party federally.

And you can't say Julie Bishop, because just like other times 'moderates' have lead the Liberal Party (i.e. Andrew Peacock and Malcolm Turnbull) in the last 40 years, the vote of the Liberal Party has been reduced at the subsequent Federal election.

A 'moderate' has never lead the Liberal Party into Government federally in its history, and it never will, male or female. The facts need to be stated, the Liberal Party is a conservative party, and the mainstream media and those with views of the left need to get over this fact and move on.

Let's also remember, the only time a woman has lead the Labor Party, their vote was also significantly reduced at an election. Now I'll admit this is a very small sample size, and there was more to that than the individual though.

Why would any party have a woman lead it if it isn't the best candidate? Even the Greens have more than 50% females in their party federally and choose a bloke to lead it.

Well you've circled the wagons to justify this n that.

Facts are that the Labor caucus elected a female as leader (and hence as PM).

The LNP don't have quotas and will only elect on merit and I guess as we roll through the decades, it will be a lack of "deserving" candidates that prevents them electing a female leader.

 

[Chipmunk]

The LNP don't have quotas and will only elect on merit and I guess as we roll through the decades, it will be a lack of "deserving" candidates that prevents them electing a female leader.

f**k me, electing people on merit. What a f**king crazy concept.

 

[Gronk]

f**k me, electing people on merit. What a f**king crazy concept.

Well yes of course old chap. When one presents herself with appropriate merit, she'll will no doubt be considered ! Wof, wof, wof.



In all seriousness, long time before these dinosaurs are cleared out I'm afraid. They are still heavily involved in the party.

Liberal 'assault victim' told her emails are spam

Dhanya received an invitation to an event mentioning assault allegations she had made, so asked to be a speaker. She was told she had a "need for attention".

www.smh.com.au

Memo Liberal women: if you really want to confront misogyny in your party, you need to fix the policies

A Liberal male staffer masturbating on a female MP’s desk is merely a symptom of something very wrong in the Liberal Party’s attitudes to women, not the sum total of it.

theconversation.com

 

[Gronk]

It doesn’t matter that this is a NO or a YES rally, climate change or even anti murdoch, this is not on. WTF dude.




Edit: ok so Australia One Party is Riccardo Bossi and that weirdo Guru who ran for NSW senate seats, lost and then cried rigged election etc.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/conspiracy-theorist-australia-one-party-mocked-after-losing-badly-in-nsw-election/news-story/13ac80191f4fe922a61686688edb0921

 

[the phantom menace]

Not every person voting No is a nutter... but every nutter is voting No.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Nah. There’s plenty of nutters that will be voting yes.

 

[the phantom menace]

Nah. There’s plenty of nutters that will be voting yes.

Such as...?

 

[Chipmunk]

Such as...?

Many people who ordinarily vote Green.

 

[Gronk]

Dude

https://x.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/1707542047396139260?s=20

Polio Elimination Due to Vaccination, Not End of Pesticide Use - FactCheck.org

Polio, a paralytic disease caused by a virus, has been eliminated in the U.S. -- and nearly wiped out globally -- thanks to vaccines. But social media posts are reviving old, false claims that polio is instead caused by pesticides and outbreaks of the disease ended when people stopped using DDT.

www.factcheck.org

Experts say toxic pesticide DDT not linked to polio

Social media users are misidentifying the cause of the viral disease polio, suggesting that a toxic agricultural pesticide is linked to the illness while undermining the role that vaccines played in combating it.

apnews.com

Vaccines, not a DDT ban, ended polio in the United States

Health experts credit widespread polio vaccination for eliminating the disease in the United States, but not everyone is

www.politifact.com

Fact check: Polio is caused by a virus, not pesticides

It has been more than 110 years since researchers determined that a virus causes polio and almost 70 years since vaccines began protecting from it.

www.usatoday.com

 

[JokerEel]

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/mining/clive-palmer-pledges-2m-to-no-camp-ahead-of-october-14/news-story/1d9954e47c6424bf27983e8c7fb6be84

Once again why are we wasting money on this? to pat ourselves on the back...


"In some of his strongest language yet, Mr Albanese said while the fear campaigns being propped up by multimillion donations could be powerful, “you never change for the better through fear”.

“You change it through hope,” he told ABC Radio.

“That’s what this referendum is about.”

He said a No outcome could lead to “quite catastrophic” outcomes for Indigenous communities, and used the COVID-19 pandemic as an example.

“We know that when you consult Indigenous people, you get better outcomes,” he said."

Huh... Fear? Huh...

What a waste of time and money...

 

[the phantom menace]

Many people who ordinarily vote Green.

Well yes, now the "progressive No voters" are increasingly rallying around the Yes vote.

 

[the phantom menace]

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/mining/clive-palmer-pledges-2m-to-no-camp-ahead-of-october-14/news-story/1d9954e47c6424bf27983e8c7fb6be84

Once again why are we wasting money on this? to pat ourselves on the back...


"In some of his strongest language yet, Mr Albanese said while the fear campaigns being propped up by multimillion donations could be powerful, “you never change for the better through fear”.

“You change it through hope,” he told ABC Radio.

“That’s what this referendum is about.”

He said a No outcome could lead to “quite catastrophic” outcomes for Indigenous communities, and used the COVID-19 pandemic as an example.

“We know that when you consult Indigenous people, you get better outcomes,” he said."

Huh... Fear? Huh...

What a waste of time and money...

Fear = the standard News Corp and Sky News reporting model about anything.

Albo's right btw - any change for the better is ultimately fuelled by hope.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Such as...?

Really? There are nutters in all walks of life and extreme views on both sides of politics.

 

[hindy111]

Really? There are nutters in all walks of life and extreme views on both sides of politics.

There are even a few nutters in this forum

 

[JokerEel]

Fear = the standard News Corp and Sky News reporting model about anything.

Albo's right btw - any change for the better is ultimately fuelled by hope.

Albo is talking about fear then tries to use fear to make people vote his way. Politicians...

 

[the phantom menace]

Hmmm.... I still contend in that quote he's speaking the truth.

Hope doesn't work against the likes of News Corp and Sky.

 

[JokerEel]

What the quote about fear from albo....

Hmmm.... I still contend in that quote he's speaking the truth.

Hope doesn't work against the likes of News Corp and Sky.