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There was a no voter from Sydney.
Who desperately needed a kidney
He found it hard for a match,
So he placed an big ad
And along came a proud aborigine

“ I’ve got a voice at last”
said the man who was cast
Aside by the states and then federal.

“ To say sorry now mate, it’s a bit f**king late but I can see you’re in somewhat a peril”

Our Koori mate tried, but Sydney man died but he wrote on his gravestone the best

“ Im a pork chop you know, for the ignorance I’ve shown and I’m ashamed for not voting yes”

Inspired by Gary Gutful K.C
 
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The Lib's own version of what went wrong for Dom (after Gladys, and with thanks to Scomo):


A postmortem of the New South Wales Liberal party’s election defeat in March has pointed to the damage done by the Morrison government’s record on climate change, women and integrity, party infighting and dysfunction.

The report also pointed to the impact of the John Barilaro saga.


Seven months on from the Coalition’s loss to Labor, the internal review by the former NSW premier Nick Greiner and former NSW MP Peta Seaton found the government’s “longevity” and an “it’s time” factor after 12 years contributed to the loss.

Liberal MPs were briefed on the review during Tuesday’s party room meeting by Greiner and Seaton.

People in attendance told Guardian Australia, on the condition of anonymity, that there was nothing “overly spicy” or surprising about the findings that highlighted the state party’s links to the former prime minister Scott Morrison and NSW Nationals leader John Barilaro.

“It was probably a good summary of what we already knew in terms of what went wrong,” a source said. “It was longevity, it was a lot of infighting on our end, delayed preselections, factions fighting with each other.”

An MP said Greiner made a comment that the “unpopularity of the previous federal government” had played a role without explicitly blaming Morrison.

“There were issues – climate, integrity and women – that had an impact at the state level,” the Liberal said. “Those policies from the previous Liberal government, there was a bit of blame attributed there.”

Barilaro dominated headlines after he was handed a plum trade position by the then Coaltion government in a “jobs for the boys” saga.


Reviewers told the parliamentary Liberal party that major reform was needed within internal party structures including the state executive.

Reflecting on those scathing findings, one parliamentarian told Guardian Australia that the executive was “a room of 30 children sitting around a table”.

“The problem is they are all conflicted,” the MP said. “They are often acting in their own interests.”


The review also found that while there were a “lot of great policies”, the campaign struggled to deliver to the people of NSW something to get excited about, according to a source.

“Every day, there was a new announcement but there was no overarching narrative … whereas [Labor] had a really salient message,” a source said.


Once finalised, the review will be handed to the top layer of the NSW Liberals, including the former Mackellar MP Jason Falinski, who was recently appointed as state president.

One MP criticised the reviewers for not handing the review to all parliamentary members so they knew what needed to change in order for them to regain power. “It’s like trying to score a goal without goalposts,” they said.


Reviewers told the party room that they could return to power in four years if they made changes, including preselecting in key seats earlier.

“We’re in a better position than [Labor] were in 2019,” a source said. “They are already in minority government. We could come back in four. We didn’t do that badly.”
 
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TSP, what is the The Silverdale Phantom, I know I'm slow, I've been in a self induced coma since Vietnam :)
Is it a place or a character out of something like star wars?

Welcome to the mighty eels forum Nutsy.

They love their Tigers, they even gifted me the fat tiger avatar.

Be yourself, be nice to everyone and be careful.

The name is simply a name, I’ll make up something profound about it later.

Current issues include the media, the referendum, the war in Gaza and whatever anyone says. A lot of different takes and humour.

A cesspit of squalid mental damnation or an on-line uni, take your pick.
 

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TSP, what is the The Silverdale Phantom, I know I'm slow, I've been in a self induced coma since Vietnam :)
Is it a place or a character out of something like star wars?
Ah, the Silverdale Phantom, a legendary and elusive creature known to haunt the small town of Silverdale. You see, the Silverdale Phantom is a mischievous and enigmatic entity that thrives on chaos. It's said to be a master of disguise, capable of transforming into various everyday objects when nobody's looking.

Imagine this: you're in Silverdale, innocently minding your own business, when suddenly your coffee mug starts making sarcastic comments about your life choices, your toothbrush tries to engage you in philosophical debates, and your car keys perform a stand-up comedy routine right on your kitchen counter. That's the Silverdale Phantom at work!

Legend has it that this mischievous phantom is the reason why people in Silverdale are always misplacing their belongings. You might put your keys on the kitchen table, turn your back for a second and they've transformed into a rubber chicken or a talking sock. The Silverdale Phantom's mission is simple: to keep the town's residents on their toes and ensure that life is never too dull in Silverdale.

So, the next time you visit Silverdale, keep an eye on your possessions, because you never know when the Silverdale Phantom might strike.
 
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Gary Gutful

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There was a no voter from Sydney.
Who desperately needed a kidney
He found it hard for a match,
So he placed an big ad
And along came a proud aborigine

“ I’ve got a voice at last”
said the man who was cast
Aside by the states and then federal.

“ To say sorry now mate, it’s a bit f**king late but I can see you’re in somewhat a peril”

Our Koori mate tried, but Sydney man died but he wrote on his gravestone the best

“ Im a pork chop you know, for the ignorance I’ve shown and I’m ashamed for not voting yes”

Inspired by Gary Gutful K.C
In the depths of Silverdale, darkness reigns,
The Silverdale Phantom, a creature of chains.
Evil incarnate, a nightmare made real,
Feasting on chaos, it's a wicked ordeal.

Invisible hands, a curse that persists,
Its laughter like thunder, a venomous twist.
A malevolent force that devours the night,
The Silverdale Phantom, prepare for the fight!

Silverdale Phantom, a terror so vile,
In shadows you lurk, in chaos you smile.
But we'll rise against you, with strength undenied,
The evil you've sown, we'll never abide!

With fury and fire, we confront the abyss,
To banish the darkness, no more shall we miss.
Our voices unite in a thunderous roar
Silverdale Phantom, you'll haunt us no more!
 

Gary Gutful

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FMD. Take it to the Shit Poetry thread FFS....
There's a man in town, goes by "Incorrect,"
He's got a surly grin and a foul dialect.
Always bossing folks around, never in a good mood,
Telling us what to do, like he's the neighborhood shrewd.

Oh, Incorrect, with your grumpy demeanor,
Dictating life's rules like a grizzled old screamer.
But we won't let you cramp our style, no, not a clue,
We'll dance to our own beat, 'cause we're the merry few!
 

Gronk

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Geoffrey Rush was truly savaged.

I heard from some of his outer connections, he took it really hard.

I was able to get a supportive message to him, one amongst hundreds I guess. Never met him but as the case unfolded, it was garbage.
Agree that being accused can be a death sentence, even after you clear your name.

It can be trial by media or indeed be used in an attempt to overthrow a government, simply because mud sticks.


So why should your Dad or brother's name be splashed across the newspapers whilst he desperately scrambles to clear his name ? Or conversely, whilst he faces the wrath of his peers.

I am pretty sure that the media have even named suspects in the case of little William Tyrrell.

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In Qld they only amended their legislation in September to name sex offenders "based recommendation of the Women’s Safety and Justice Taskforce in July 2022, bring Queensland into line with most other states and territories to allow the naming of accused sex offenders after they are charged. Previously, alleged offenders could only be named once they had been committed to stand trial.

The changes mean that accused sex offenders will be treated the same as defendants accused of other crimes."


There doesn't seem to be any rules for the media. Some media originations have taken an ethical stance of only naming accused after they have been found guilty.

In the case if the Toowoomba ^^^ merkin, the media are actually litigating the right to have him named in the public interest.

In some cases it is in the public interest of course. Mad merkin terrorist on the run who is a danger to the community should be named and his photo released.

Perhaps the test should be "is he entitled to bail ?". If he is not deemed a danger to the community and the terms of bail are such that he is unlikely to re-offend of tamper with evidence or witnesses, then he deserves his anonymity. Otherwise, perhaps there is no choice but to name him/her.
 
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In my neck of the woods there is a very high profile pollie facing some pretty serious sexual charges, he's going about his work as if nothing has happened. He even got re-elected in the last state election, which I find incredible.
 

Gronk

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In my neck of the woods there is a very high profile pollie facing some pretty serious sexual charges, he's going about his work as if nothing has happened. He even got re-elected in the last state election, which I find incredible.
Yes, two historical sex offences, sacked from the LNP, then re-elected as an independent.

Should Dylbags have been named ? Hayne ? Semi ? Sivo ? Two of those were found innocent. Two guilty.

Semi copped it deluxe from a Ch9 female personality, then was found not guilty (or were charges dropped?).

Should Paul Kent have been named ?
 

Soren Lorenson

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Yes, two historical sex offences, sacked from the LNP, then re-elected as an independent.

Should Dylbags have been named ? Hayne ? Semi ? Sivo ? Two of those were found innocent. Two guilty.

Semi copped it deluxe from a Ch9 female personality, then was found not guilty (or were charges dropped?).

Should Paul Kent have been named ?
yes, I genuinely don't know. I'm probably leaning more towards not being named. I can't see any public interest in most cases, apart from that the public is interested.
 
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JDB, Reynolds and young Sailor were all subject to close scrutiny.

His eminence Cardinal Pell..

I disagree that People should be incarcerated pending their appeal unless the allegation is nasty and they have form.

Haynsey is not a flight risk, he’s obeyed all previous conditions

if he loses his appeal, enter the civil case to hurt him and indirectly, his family and all that.

If there’s one good thing Lee H has done since taking over the Tigers chairperson ship, it’s to go Tyrone May in the civil court where a settlement was reached.

There’s a lot of innuendo as to the other performers, but I can’t go there obviously.
 

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