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Discussion in 'Parramatta Eels' started by Gronk, Dec 10, 2018.

  1. Bazal

    Bazal Post Whore

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    No that was his member.

    There are some benefits to dwarfism
     
  2. Gary Gutful

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  3. Gronk

    Gronk Moderator Staff Member

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    Great move. I hope they get it through. While everyone is distracted sneak it in. Why not? Great tactic if it's what I want.
     
  5. Gary Gutful

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    They should discuss vegetation clearing laws. A more regular permitted process of backburning would have reduced some of the fuel and made the bushfires easier to control.
     
  6. Gronk

    Gronk Moderator Staff Member

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    It seems that the talking points by the politicians are to deflect questions re climate change back to the Greens with their alleged opposition to backburning. But is the Greens policy as outrageous as they are saying ?

    https://greens.org.au/nsw/policies/bushfire-risk-management

    Principles

    The Greens NSW believe that:

    1. Given the unique Australian ecosystem, that uncontrolled bush fires are a threat to life and property and to ecological sustainability. High intensity bush fires not only destroy property, but also destroy native fauna and flora and lead to increased soil erosion and siltation of streams;

    2. Assumptions about bush fire prevention, mitigation, control and management need review in the light of the need for ecologically sustainable management;

    3. Hazard reduction, including manual, mechanical and hazard reduction burning activities should be strategically planned to protect the community and vulnerable assets while minimising the adverse impacts of these activities on the environment;

    4. Bush fire risk management should be informed by the knowledge of Indigenous Australians.

    5. Strict controls are required to reduce the amount of rural burning that is not required for essential asset protection;

    6. Prescribed burning is only one method of fuel management and should be considered in the context of other available options and the management objectives of the land in question;

    7. Many vegetation communities and plants cannot survive frequent fire; for this reason frequent fire has been listed as a key threatening process by the NSW Scientific Committee under the Threatened Species Conservation Act;

    8. Moreover, many vegetation communities can undergo severe decline in biodiversity with long-term fire exclusion. Ecologically appropriate fire regimes are required to maintain biodiversity and functioning ecosystems;

    9. Firefighting services in NSW need support, supplementation and additional resources. In particular, local government needs to be provided with additional resources and finances to enable the proper implementation of its responsibilities with regard to the assessment and implementation of hazard reduction strategies;

    10. Education of councils, land managers, land-holders, the general public, fire management planners and fire fighters is needed and should be publicly funded. Such education should target specific audiences and address a broad range of 'bush fire' and environmental issues;

    11. Education and community awareness material needs to focus especially on the threat to the environment and to property of inappropriate use of fire, particularly burning that is too frequent, extensive in area, of excessive intensity, badly timed or carelessly implemented;

    12. All firefighting agencies and land managers should be issued with guidelines as to the specific implications of the legal requirement for ecologically sustainable fire management and receive training on the environmental effects of bush fires;

    13. Basic training courses for Fire Permit officers, Brigade Captains and Brigade members should include specific information on the environmental impacts of frequent burning, appropriate fire regimes for biodiversity protection in different vegetation communities, guidelines regarding the timing of burns, the manner in which burns are lit, maintained and contained, appropriate fire exclusion areas and buffer zones, and other requirements of the local Bush Fire Risk Management Plans;

    14. Local Bush Fire Management Committees should prepare summaries of landholder obligations under risk management plans, including environmental assessment and protection requirements, for general circulation in the district;

    15. High bush fire hazard areas are usually those associated with natural areas and vegetation. The location of residential or rural residential areas in high bush fire hazard areas increases the level of native vegetation loss as well as the level of threat to people and their homes. This is neither economically, socially nor ecologically sustainable. New development that requires the clearing of native vegetation on adjoining properties should not be permitted in identified Bushfire Prone Areas, where such development is likely to put lives or property in danger or involve substantial protection and suppression costs including loss of environmental values.
     
  7. Poupou Escobar

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    Progressives love to push science over tradition, but then undermine their position with stuff like this:
    And of course their opinion on the topic should be regarded as 'education' and its dissemination paid for by the taxpayer.
     
  8. hindy111

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    Wage growth in India is 10% this year.
    Chinas has been 150% in 9yrs.

    Meanwhile in Australia min wage has gone from about $16 to $20 in 15yrs.

    I think the screws are turning and it's only a matter of time before people here will be doing 50hrs just to survive and driving Uber's rnd.

    Capitalism and the system is falling apart. Good for a while but doesn't seem sustainable.
     
  9. Poupou Escobar

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    The problem isn't capitalism but globalisation. There is no shame in buying cheap shit made overseas at the expense of local goods/service providers, and nobody providing affordable training to allow locals to upskill and participate in the local nodes of the global economy.
     
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  10. Gronk

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    I'm guessing fake, but a clever fake nonetheless.

     
  11. hindy111

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    Yes but we all want to save and buy the cheap. Irony is we are helping other nations.
     
  12. JohnStoppafarty

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    If you would really like to educate yourself about this, look up " The Lima Agreement". and " The Lima Declaration". As a side note, you might be happy to know that the Penrith City Council were one of the first organisations to print this for the viewing pleasure of your general Aussie nuffy.
    This was all agreed to a long time ago even though many countries declined to actually sign it.
    When the standard of living in the 3rd word achieves parity with the 1st world, something will have to give. I could go on and on about what I think might occur but I'd only be speculating.
    What I do know is this. The 1st world at present are/is propping up their economies by importing people from the 3rd world to create more consumerism.
    This can't and won't last and when parity is achieved, it is not unthinkable that the 1st world may end up being the new peasants. (Read lower to middle class).
    N.B. Im not saying this is right or wrong, nor is there any underlying racist tone to this post. It's just what is happening. Like it or not.
     
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  13. hindy111

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    I agree. What's happend in the last 15yrs is quite crazy. Imagine another 20yrs.
     
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  14. hindy111

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    Are all first world countries doing this? Or mainly Australia?
     
  15. JohnStoppafarty

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    Most are but I'm not keeping a book on it. You'd probably find some Nordic countries are resisting along with any others who might have a nationalistic mood with a great economy. I really don't know but that would be my guess.
    Anyone who isn't importing consumerism either has an actual backbone or a valuable export. Even those countries will have tariffs placed upon them soon enough. They will have to play the game or go self sufficient. That's just how it is.The globalisation that Pou so adores has made it that way.. But don't worry... You can get a drill at Bunnings for $20 and we are going to live on Mars. Whoohoooo!
     
  16. Twizzle

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    its all the greens fault, must be because of the legislation they introduced in when they were in government
     
  17. JohnStoppafarty

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    It's not the Greens fault at all. This shit was devised long before the greens showed up. (though not before the concept of a Green party was thought of). Globalisation is hardly a new concept. It takes along time for these f**ks to slowly introduce these policies in a clandestine yet open way in a fashoin that is socially acceptable. You have to give them credit for persistence and you have to hate your fellow man for just going along with it. Anyway, It's too late now. Sedition laws prevent me from typing out a possible solution. Not only that, the general public couldn't give 2 f**ks and would label me a conspirator.
    Even without those laws and labels, might is right and you'll never overcome the power they have to quell a violent uprising.
    So it's set in stone now and WWIII will sort out what happens next.
    Good luck to you all, you fellow humans. May the god I don't believe in have mercy on your soul!

    Edit: Imbecilic f**kwits was a bit harsh.
     
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  18. Twizzle

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    sorry, I should have added the sarcasm smiley, they literally have no say but been copping plenty of stick on social media
     
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    Well if you prefer your own nation over others these days you're a racist.
     
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  20. Poupou Escobar

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    It's the Greens' ideology that is being blamed, and the party is obviously the face of that.
     

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