OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Twizzle]

Trump is a bully and a dickhead, but he is also entertaining and ultimately harmless.

he's far from harmless, he is a very dangerous man, Jan 6th 10 people dead

 

[ImTheMan]

he's far from harmless, he is a very dangerous man, Jan 6th 10 people dead

Holy shit talk about misinformation.
Source?
Ashli Babbitt was one, and was a Trump supporter.
That's it. There was fake news about the death of an officer but it was found to completely unrelated to the cosplayers walking around and let in by Pelosi denying requests for more security.
Credibility on the topic is over before it started.
Regardless as Gronk likes to say, this is a "whataboutism" when talking about current events.
*Sips whiskey*
Cheers

 

[ImTheMan]

Jan. 6 participant Ashli Babbitt's husband, conservative group file a wrongful death suit against U.S. government

Babbitt was killed after she joined a mob that attacked the Capitol on Jan. 6 as she attempted to climb through a door near the House floor.

www.nbcnews.com

Now you go, a credible source about a death not some rumor at the time about an officer no where near the events. Seems like there was only one ambush that was witnessed live by a lot of people. Trump called them off on twitter, and called for a peaceful protest. Whataboutism. Waiting for nine sources.

 

[ImTheMan]

OK when you can legitimately show me that Trump has never demonized opponents, then we can talk more.

Does saying Joe is senile and ruining the country with his policies dehumanize him? "Maga Rednecks" is a phrase you use. Do you think that is bigoted? A doctor was in the crowd that tried to save the Dad's life protecting his family. Was he a Maga Redneck?The tone is way more hysterical on the American left about Trump. Look at how upset the diehards were in 2016 to understand how this happens.

 

[Gronk]

Does saying Joe is senile and ruining the country with his policies dehumanize him? "Maga Rednecks" is a phrase you use. Do you think that is bigoted? A doctor was in the crowd that tried to save the Dad's life with his brain matter out. The tone is way more hysterical on the American left about Trump. Look at how upset the diehards were in 2016 to understand how this happens.

 

[ImTheMan]

So you love MAGA rednecks? Context matters, you seemed to say they were "rageful"

*Sips whiskey*
Cheers!

 

[Gronk]

Some weird takes out there.

 

[Twizzle]

How Many Died as a Result of Capitol Riot? - FactCheck.org

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol resulted in "almost 10 dead." Four people died that day, and five others -- all law enforcement officers -- died days, weeks and even months later. Here we lay out what is publicly known about the circumstances surrounding those...

www.factcheck.org

 

[Twizzle]

 

[the phantom menace]

And this is the thing. Constant Trump=Hitler and when somebody ‘does something about it’ suddenly we’re condemning political violence. This violence wasn’t political, it was ideological.

You don't know what the motive for the violence was - you should at least be honest enough to admit that.

All we know it that the violence was done by some loner guy, who was teased in school for wearing hunting gear/camo clothing, worked in a nursing home and had registered to vote Republican in their primaries.

 

[Twizzle]

Some weird takes out there.

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I've seen so much shit today about this on the socials:

it was an assault rifle, half his head should be missing, not just a piece of skin

images of their sniper with his gun trailed on the shooter but didn't shoot till the shooter had a crack at Trump

where are the medical reports from the hospital

why was Trump out playing golf early the next day

the teleprompters are still on one peace and unharmed

why did they allow Trump to stand up immediately after being shot to raise his fist ?

Still the majority think this was all staged, there are so many people who just do not trust Trump so they just think it was all staged. It's certainly been an interesting day.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Oh dear... even more poor logic. What empathy was I'mTheMan expecting for Biden to have for Trump before Trump had even been assassinated?

You're both failing badly in this thread today.

How about something as simple as refraining from dehumanising a political opponent? Is that really all they’ve got? Why not have another go at his small hands or his chauvinism?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So he allegedly donated to the Democrats when he was in Yr 11 at school. But now (at voting age) he is registered to vote as a republican.

Also fired a shot at the next Republican president.

 

[the phantom menace]

How about something as simple as refraining from dehumanising a political opponent?

Lol.

I note how you (and I'mTheClown) are suddenly on this bandwagon, but were silent about similar behaviour dehumanising opponents over the last decade coming from Trump himself.

Is that really all they’ve got? Why not have another go at his small hands or his chauvinism?

I don't think anyone here said anything remotely like what you've claimed in the thread today, champ.

 

[Gronk]

This merkin loves a conspiracy theory. Vaccines, chem trails, illuminati etc. Now assassinations.

 

[ImTheMan]

How Many Died as a Result of Capitol Riot? - FactCheck.org

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol resulted in "almost 10 dead." Four people died that day, and five others -- all law enforcement officers -- died days, weeks and even months later. Here we lay out what is publicly known about the circumstances surrounding those...

www.factcheck.org

So... AOC's count with strokes, heart attacks of Trump supporters, unrelated deaths and suicides is your original source? OK... Thanks Nice to know. The only real death on the scene of J6 was Ashley according to that "fact check" so you agree. And it was very unnecessary, overhanded and brutal. Policing has suicides, it is not easy job and that is always tragic. But are you really attributing that to a president? I attribute it to a lack of security that was ordered.

Speaking of security lapses, someone more qualified than all of us giving you insight on what is to come:

Sniper weighs in on Trump assassination attempt

Dallas Alexander, who spent 14 years in a sniper team for the Canadian military, has weighed in on the assassination attempt of former President Donald Trump on Saturday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The question is: who helped?
*Sips whiskey*
Cheers!

 

[ImTheMan]

Are the left claiming things are staged now? Is that allowed now by people after gun violence? Interesting

 

[the phantom menace]

This merkin loves a conspiracy theory. Vaccines, chem trails, illuminati etc. Now assassinations.

So Trump's usual rusted-on base of right-wing conspiracy theorists are now suggesting the shooting is fake? So even they don't trust Trump, after his years of lies... That would also explain the numbers in the poll Twizz posted.

 

[strider]

This merkin loves a conspiracy theory. Vaccines, chem trails, illuminati etc. Now assassinations.

Well it was a good photo opportunity. She will probably have some good photos to show for it.

 

[the phantom menace]

Well it was a good photo opportunity. She will probably have some good photos to show for it.

So long as she remembered to change it from selfie-mode...