OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Comfy]

It’s f**ked mate. The amount of debt these young people are in is ridiculous. I just cannot bare to to see my own kids go (long term) in silly debt for some dog box with rising strata levies in a dodgie building. That’s why I have to help them whilst I’m still here.

They are lucky I can.

It's big in my culture, too. So many people were given houses/deposits by bank of mum and dad.

 

[JokerEel]

What will happen is sacking 36,000 public servants.




is he really saving money by outsourcing the work to consultancy firms ScoMo style, or is he just fudging the numbers ?

Nothing wrong with getting rid of public jobs!

I should state that Duttons plan of giving those jobs to his mates is bad though..

 

[Twizzle]

What is the argument here?
Let anyone in the country vs Let in people via the correct processes put in place by government.

good question, it started with some heartless person laughing at a distressed lady on Insta, for which I showed empathy

I don't think anyone here, including me, has argued that they shouldn't be expelling the crims, but if you've attended RWNJ school you'll learn pretty quickly to jump to all sorts of conclusions

just another day on LU

How the hell do you even get to this from what was posted?

FMD

here comes the cavalry to circle the wagons, OK I'll play along, what did he mean ?

 

[Twizzle]

Isn't that what all politicians do?

all ? I wouldn't have thought so, some have a heart

 

[Bandwagon]

Nothing wrong with getting rid of public jobs!

I should state that Duttons plan of giving those jobs to his mates is bad though..

You either have a public service capable of delivering government services to the people, or you pay private industry to do it at a profit.

Why should private industry profit from doing what a well equipped public service can do, when it is well proven that the "efficiencies"private industry proffer up just do not exist, and it ends up costing the taxpayer more for an inferior service.

Dogma isn't a reason

 

[Avenger]

It's big in my culture, too. So many people were given houses/deposits by bank of mum and dad.

And what culture is that? Albanian? Bosnian?

 

[JokerEel]

You either have a public service capable of delivering government services to the people, or you pay private industry to do it at a profit.

Why should private industry profit from doing what a well equipped public service can do, when it is well proven that the "efficiencies"private industry proffer up just do not exist, and it ends up costing the taxpayer more for an inferior service.

Dogma isn't a reason

A well-equipped public service might seem ideal in theory, but in practice, private industry consistently outperforms government-run services in several key areas: efficiency, innovation, and accountability.

The notion that public services inherently do a better job is outdated—competition and profit incentives drive progress, while government-run systems often stagnate.

 

[JokerEel]

all ? I wouldn't have thought so, some have a heart

Well I assume they all have hearts.

 

[hindy111]

You forgot

eating the cats, and eating the dawgs

Source?

 

[Twizzle]

Well I assume they all have hearts.

have you met Donny boy ?

I think he played the part of the Tinman in The Wizard of Oz and he's still looking for a heart

 

[hindy111]

So a Dutton victory?

I'll be honest. I don't like Dutton at all.

 

[Comfy]

And what culture is that? Albanian? Bosnian?

Greek

 

[the phantom menace]

A well-equipped public service might seem ideal in theory, but in practice, private industry consistently outperforms government-run services in several key areas: efficiency, innovation, and accountability.

Lol... yeah right.

The notion that public services inherently do a better job is outdated—competition and profit incentives drive progress, while government-run systems often stagnate.

Public services are far from faultless, however the notion that competition and profit drives efficiency, innovation or accountability is outdated - and almost laughable.

 

[JokerEel]

Lol... yeah right.

Public services are far from faultless, however the notion that competition and profit drives efficiency, innovation or accountability is outdated - and almost laughable.

You should be in politics with those responses!

 

[Bandwagon]

A well-equipped public service might seem ideal in theory, but in practice, private industry consistently outperforms government-run services in several key areas: efficiency, innovation, and accountability.

Oh look I understand the lines , it's just that this is horseshit.

The notion that public services inherently do a better job is outdated—competition and profit incentives drive progress, while government-run systems often stagnate.

Quite the opposite, it's the notion that private industry will do a better job that is outdated. Government money makes private industry stagnate, and skews service delivery towards whatever particular service is most profitable.

 

[Bandwagon]

Source?

 

[hindy111]

Rules are rules and without them it's chaos

 

[Bandwagon]

Rules are rules and without them it's chaos

Rules aren't universal, they apply at the whim of those who can enforce them

So Chaos is an inevitability.

 

[Avenger]

Greek

And yesterday you wanted to hassle a fellow Orthodox brother? Shame on you, bro.

 

[JokerEel]

Oh look I understand the lines , it's just that this is horseshit.



Quite the opposite, it's the notion that private industry will do a better job that is outdated. Government money makes private industry stagnate, and skews service delivery towards whatever particular service is most profitable.

I get that you're skeptical, but dismissing the argument as 'horseshit' doesn't really address the points I made. If government money makes private industry stagnate, why do we see private companies consistently innovating in sectors where they contract with the government—healthcare, defense, infrastructure, even space exploration?

Private companies thrive when they deliver results, while public services face little to no consequence for inefficiency. If the private sector was as stagnant as you claim, we wouldn’t see governments worldwide outsourcing critical services to them. The reality is, competition drives better outcomes, whereas government monopolies have no reason to improve.