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And youngsters here, this a Kamal, he was as wokey as it used to get long before gronky and TPM.

He is never going to try to sneak into the wrong toilets. Had some troubles recently, sadly.

A great Australian.
 
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That presser was a shocker. Reporters grilled him on accountability and he said that everything he does is fully transparent and he will post everything blow by blow on X. “But it’s been shown that you post and re-post lies” yes, he said, sometimes the posts will be shown to be wrong and that’s where everyone can let us know about it.

Paraphrasing of course.

He was then grilled on his conflicts of interest about the billions he gets in gov contracts for Space X and he basically said, well I don’t sign those contracts, someone at the company does.

Meanwhile, on 10 Feb 25 Space X was awarded a further $35/40m.

So shutting down their version of Dept of Fair Trading / APRA is fine because we need to save money.

He's the richest guy in the world but he didn't make his money based on his charisma. He's an uninspiring interviewee, with little to offer. He must be impressive behind the scenes.
 

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Zelensky is absolutely not a flea. Why do you say that?
He is the strongest, most inspirational leader I have seen for decades. Since Gorbachev, who absolutely brought peace to Europe.
Why should warnings about joining NATO deter him? He wanted security for his country. A country that he wanted to turn into a true democracy, a bit like Gorbachev back in the early 90's. NATO was going to offer him and Ukraine that.
Isn't world peace what we all want?
And, what money did he take? Please tell.
It was only Putin who was threatened by this, hence why he is heading west for his grab to reclaim the Russian (USSR) Empire. Why do you think Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Finland are all securing their borders currently? Russia will not stop if they succeed in Ukraine. It just cannot be allowed to happen and nor can any compromise on this.

As for China, that is another discussion for another day
Yep!! He is a f**ken hero! The MAGA hate him, cause in that situation they wouldn't have the balls to fight! Trump is a pussy! Classic bully, when pushed, retreats!!

If Zelenskyy was a "flea", he could have been a Putin surrogate, like a few of the previous Ukrainian Presidents. But he chose to stay rather then flee when the fighting started! His actions speak louder than the words of some!! He actions wouId be a lot different if he was after money!

anyhow, Ukraine gave up all their nuclear weapons under the Budapest agreement in the 90's for a security guarantee from Russia. Putin broke in by invading Crimea in 2014.....

The war has nothing to do with a land grab or NATO, Putin just needs an enemy to fight, to remain in power....just like all wantable dictators (cough Trump), they need to create a threat or crisis...
 

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I haven't forgotten that but maybe others have.
They also die from falling down stairs, or smoking incidents or falling over balconies or other claimed suicides, but of course, these "accidents" never happen in Russia.
The country is rotten to the core, but oh yes, his people love him.
the people of Russia love Putin so much they would die for him...
 
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Yep!! He is a f**ken hero! The MAGA hate him, cause in that situation they wouldn't have the balls to fight! Trump is a pussy! Classic bully, when pushed, retreats!!

If Zelenskyy was a "flea", he could have been a Putin surrogate, like a few of the previous Ukrainian Presidents. But he chose to stay rather then flee when the fighting started! His actions speak louder than the words of some!! He actions wouId be a lot different if he was after money!

anyhow, Ukraine gave up all their nuclear weapons under the Budapest agreement in the 90's for a security guarantee from Russia. Putin broke in by invading Crimea in 2014.....

The war has nothing to do with a land grab or NATO, Putin just needs an enemy to fight, to remain in power....just like all wantable dictators (cough Trump), they need to create a threat or crisis...
It's truly heartening to see that there are some good and decent Eels fans out there. Kudos to you Joshuaeel!
 

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I disagree Suity, he is a flea. Russia has no interest in taking other countries that you mentioned. I think you have been watching CNN for too long.
For some reason people genuinely believe the USA (and western countries who follow them like sheep) never spreads propaganda. Only the baddies like Russia and China do that. Brainwashed as hell ..... the USA spread more shit than anyone.

Who said Putin wants all of europe? USA? UK? .... its absolute horseshit ... but people love to believe it. Its some feel good thing to feel you are siding with the "goodies".

I dont think he even wants all of Ukraine. Who said that? USA? .... he doesnt want US miltary bases close to Moscow. Just like the USA would lose their shit if Mexico joined BRICS and agreed to chinese bases near the USA.

They actually worked out a deal to stop the war in April '22. In Turkey. But Boris Johnson went and told Zelensky to not do it. So they backed out.

Zelensky does it cos the dodgy merkins in his country wont be happy if he doesnt. He will leave ukraine when they eventually make a deal cos there are people there that wont accept it.

Go and read western media up to about 2018. Every f**ker was concerned about the rise of neo-nazis and incredible corruption in ukraine.

The USA are as much to blame for ukraine as Putin. They meddle in everything and they dont give a f**k about the collateral damage.
 
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For some reason people genuinely believe the USA (and western countries who follow them like sheep) never spreads propaganda. Only the baddies like Russia and China do that. Brainwashed as hell ..... the USA spread more shit than anyone.

Who said Putin wants all of europe? USA? UK? .... its absolute horseshit ... but people love to believe it. Its some feel good thing to feel you are siding with the "goodies".

I dont think he even wants all of Ukraine. Who said that? USA? .... he doesnt want US miltary bases close to Moscow. Just like the USA would lose their shit if Mexico joined BRICS and agreed to chinese bases near the USA.

They actually worked out a deal to stop the war in April '22. In Turkey. But Boris Johnson went and told Zelensky to not do it. So they backed out.

Zelensky does it cos the dodgy merkins in his country wont be happy if he doesnt. He will leave ukraine when they eventually make a deal cos there are people there that wont accept it.

Go and read western media up to about 2018. Every f**ker was concerned about the rise of neo-nazis and incredible corruption in ukraine.

The USA are as much to blame for ukraine as Putin. They meddle in everything and they dont give a f**k about the collateral damage.
Yes, the forum desperately needs a few high notes like this one to invoke a more composured stance.

Unless the west was willing to put on a proper defence, the Ukraine was always doomed.

Share prices in Raytheon and other arms companies did quite well for awhile. But wars tend to get old and end up costing more than expected.

All the money spent on killing people could have been used on education, welfare, food, energy, genuine improvements in peoples lives….

But that’s hardly a priority when you can have a stranger pull a flag from your cold dead hand.

And per usual, civilians who don’t want to die are summarily killed without a seat at this macabre table of death.

Trump is a much better chance at ending this farce than the democrats and their finely polished war machine. I’m looking forward to it. I suppose the democrats will try to sue him for that as well.
 
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Lol. So true.

Strider is one of two or three people I listen to on this thread.
@Gary Gutful is another. I don't know much about politics but I am intelligent enough to understand who on here thinks logical and the ones who think emotionally.
The Silver Phantom is another. Very smart human.

Many others are nice humans but many are emotional who bet with their heart not with their head.
 

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And that is the problem.
What right did he initially have invading a foreign (Ukraine) with internationally recognised borders.? None.
If you give him what he already has, form a peace treaty, and then, he'll only come back for more later.
Don't forget, he wanted ALL of Ukraine. Thought he'd get it done in 3 days.

Just like Trump thinks he can walk into the Middle East and own Gaza.
Seriously mate, these guys are nutcases.
Biggest threats to world peace we have had for decades.


Let's see how the cookie crumbles before we start talking threats to world peace.
I agree some of the stuff Trumps doing seems silly but I'd give him 2yrs atleast before judge him.
 

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For some reason people genuinely believe the USA (and western countries who follow them like sheep) never spreads propaganda. Only the baddies like Russia and China do that. Brainwashed as hell ..... the USA spread more shit than anyone.

Who said Putin wants all of europe? USA? UK? .... its absolute horseshit ... but people love to believe it. Its some feel good thing to feel you are siding with the "goodies".

I dont think he even wants all of Ukraine. Who said that? USA? .... he doesnt want US miltary bases close to Moscow. Just like the USA would lose their shit if Mexico joined BRICS and agreed to chinese bases near the USA.

They actually worked out a deal to stop the war in April '22. In Turkey. But Boris Johnson went and told Zelensky to not do it. So they backed out.

Zelensky does it cos the dodgy merkins in his country wont be happy if he doesnt. He will leave ukraine when they eventually make a deal cos there are people there that wont accept it.

Go and read western media up to about 2018. Every f**ker was concerned about the rise of neo-nazis and incredible corruption in ukraine.

The USA are as much to blame for ukraine as Putin. They meddle in everything and they dont give a f**k about the collateral damage.

We are brainwashed since we go to school. Actually the programming starts earlier these days. Where do our thoughts and opinions form? 99% are repeated information we've read or heard and we generally decide what we will believe and repeat/spread based on what suits our own current situation in life.

Opinions/ideas are just seeds placed in your head that slowly grow pending on how you feed them.
Kinda why it's funny listening to Gronk and Bandy beat their chests like they are correct and that's no way to have a discussion. For the shit Phantom cops on here he always seems a little open to other ideas. Ultimately we all are just repeating bullshit is all. But hey good on them for being passionate. It's probably better then being like myself and not giving two f**ks.


Now f**k u I have to go to work and pull cables
 

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Mother Russia.
My late Father in Law used to refer to some people as “big serbs”. They were people who took there balkan politics very seriously. They saw themselves as nationalists and saw themselves as “little russians”.
 

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We are brainwashed since we go to school. Actually the programming starts earlier these days. Where do our thoughts and opinions form? 99% are repeated information we've read or heard and we generally decide what we will believe and repeat/spread based on what suits our own current situation in life.

Opinions/ideas are just seeds placed in your head that slowly grow pending on how you feed them.
Kinda why it's funny listening to Gronk and Bandy beat their chests like they are correct and that's no way to have a discussion. For the shit Phantom cops on here he always seems a little open to other ideas. Ultimately we all are just repeating bullshit is all. But hey good on them for being passionate. It's probably better then being like myself and not giving two f**ks.


Now f**k u I have to go to work and pull cables
*Drop.
 

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We are brainwashed since we go to school. Actually the programming starts earlier these days. Where do our thoughts and opinions form? 99% are repeated information we've read or heard and we generally decide what we will believe and repeat/spread based on what suits our own current situation in life.

Opinions/ideas are just seeds placed in your head that slowly grow pending on how you feed them.
I think you just said that because someone planted a seed decades ago.

Kinda why it's funny listening to Gronk and Bandy beat their chests like they are correct and that's no way to have a discussion. For the shit Phantom cops on here he always seems a little open to other ideas. Ultimately we all are just repeating bullshit is all. But hey good on them for being passionate.

Kinda funny why you have left out your mates in your criticism and early morning life lesson.


It's probably better then being like myself and not giving two f**ks.

Now f**k u I have to go to work and pull cables

You’re just one of the deeping thinking hard working seven dwarfs mate.
 
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