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You miss the point. Here it matters who is the boss. The bottle stopped at Zelensky and he was supposed to kiss and give Trump a hug. Instead he insulted him by giving the very hand that feeds him a prophecy on how America will feel when it happens to them.
Sounds like pretty boss behaviour to me? And good for Trump to learn that things don't always go to the bully's script.
He is a f**king idiot. And like Strides said, whether he likes it or not that aid given by Biden has strings. It wasn't for free.
So why is Trump now trying to move the goalposts on any agreed strings? Because Trump's whole shtick is about "trying to show who's boss" - but this time he failed, televised for the whole world to see. Talk about an idiot...
 

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Sounds like pretty boss behaviour to me? And good for Trump to learn that things don't always go to the bully's script.

So why is Trump now trying to move the goalposts on any agreed strings? Because Trump's whole shtick is about "trying to show who's boss" - but this time he failed, televised for the whole world to see. Talk about an idiot...
Ukraine needs the US more, despite what you may think of who the idiot is. He will come crawling back. He has to.
 
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Not if Europe steps up its game, which I'm pretty sure they will.

The rest of the world's leaders are appalled at Trump and Vance today. Paired with their tantrums re the UN and NATO, Trump is very much overestimating his power in the situation.

Amateurish and humiliated. Maybe it's Trump that won't last six more months....?
 

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Not if Europe steps up its game, which I'm pretty sure they will.

The rest of the world's leaders are appalled at Trump and Vance today. Paired with their tantrums re the UN and NATO, Trump is very much overestimating his power in the situation.

Amateurish and humiliated. Maybe it's Trump that won't last six more months....?
Hahahahahahahah
 
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@the phantom menace


8 min 55 second mark to reiterate my point.
The "it will be difficult" bit? Sure... but that doesn't mean Zelenskyy should have bowed down to unreasonable demands from Trump and Vance.

Zelenskyy was right to challenge them, and ultimately walks away from the humiliated playground bullies with integrity intact. Europe - the good parts anyway - will increase their commitments and stand in solidarity with Ukraine.

As should Albo and Dutton, to be honest - and probably would if there wasn't an election around the corner. Dutton has most to lose by Trump's behaviour... his mini-Trump strategy to capitalise on any "Trump effect" is up in flames today!
 

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The "it will be difficult" bit? Sure... but that doesn't mean Zelenskyy should have bowed down to unreasonable demands from Trump and Vance.

Zelenskyy was right to challenge them, and ultimately walks away from the humiliated playground bullies with integrity intact. Europe - the good parts anyway - will increase their commitments and stand in solidarity with Ukraine.

As should Albo and Dutton, to be honest - and probably would if there wasn't an election around the corner. Dutton has most to lose by Trump's behaviour... his mini-Trump strategy to capitalise on any "Trump effect" is up in flames today!
Up in flames? f**k me. You really are delusional. I can't wait for our own election. I think you will just end up calling the majority dumb. That's your 101.
 
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Up in flames? f**k me. You really are delusional.
Yes, any opposition leader around the world who thought trying to mimic Trump might be a good idea is having very serious second thoughts about strategy after today's performance.

Dutton wouldn't know what to do atm - wouldn't surprise if Albo (or at least Wong) starts to apply the pressure, making statements in support of Ukraine's right to defend it's borders against Russia. Basically trying to force Dutton to come out and publicly denounce Trump - which then means Dutton is back to the drawing board.
I can't wait for our own election. I think you will just end up calling the majority dumb. That's your 101.
Well, the majority are dumb regardless of any particular election result... That's why it's my 101 - because it's actually true!
 

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Yes, any opposition leader around the world who thought trying to mimic Trump might be a good idea is having very serious second thoughts about strategy after today's performance.

Dutton wouldn't know what to do atm - wouldn't surprise if Albo (or at least Wong) starts to apply the pressure, making statements in support of Ukraine's right to defend it's borders against Russia. Basically trying to force Dutton to come out and publicly denounce Trump - which then means Dutton is back to the drawing board.

Well, the majority are dumb regardless of any particular election result... That's why it's my 101 - because it's actually true!
So, are the majority of voters only considered dumb when they don’t align with your political views? Or do you think the general public is just ignorant overall?

And if you’re making that claim, are you assuming you are one of the wise ones?

I wonder if you’d have the balls to say that in public if you were (God Forbid) in a position of power, or does this kind of talk only happen behind the safety of a veiled footy forum?
 

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Not if Europe steps up its game, which I'm pretty sure they will.

The rest of the world's leaders are appalled at Trump and Vance today. Paired with their tantrums re the UN and NATO, Trump is very much overestimating his power in the situation.

Amateurish and humiliated. Maybe it's Trump that won't last six more months....?
Europe relies on the US. You live in a fantasy world. When was the last time you were there? It’s f**king regressed and we all know why. Kumbaya didn’t seem to work with the garbage that has invaded Western Europe.
 
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