OT: Foxtel FoxSports / Kayo /Ch9 + NRL TV Rights

[Noise]

I tend to agree with ram. The clubs are the last group that should be running the game. Most clubs are basket cases running at a loss.

 

[hineyrulz]

I tend to agree with ram. The clubs are the last group that should be running the game. Most clubs are basket cases running at a loss.

Imagine that was the model with a bloke like Sharp as Chairman????


The club would of barely last 6 months.

 

[Noise]

Imagine that was the model with a bloke like Sharp as Chairman????


The club would of barely last 6 months.

Politis: what the f**k are you doing?
Sharp: I’m just going to record this meeting on my dictaphone.

 

[Twizzle]

So let me get this right. The head of NINE reckons that the NRLC has failed in its duty to govern and strengthen the game and its investments, which is true. But then as the solution demands that they relinquish their power to the most self interested group within the game, the CLUBS!

Ch 9 came up with the idea to play ThNF and MNF, good for their ratings but shit for the RL as attendances were low. Sure they blame RL but they were also part of the problem.

Well what facts do you know then? I am simply commenting on what is being reported

The problem there mate is that its being reported by Fairfax so they obviously have an agenda, just go back a few weeks when an "unidentified representative" from Ch 9 started all this rubbishing of RL, gutless weasel wouldn't even put his name to the article

Murdoch has opening said he supports AFL as the no 1 footy code in Oz so Fox are just going along for the ride and we are unfortunately relying on 9 to prop the game up financially with support from News Corp/Foxtel who are less interested

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I tend to agree with ram. The clubs are the last group that should be running the game. Most clubs are basket cases running at a loss.

That's because they're trying to keep up on the field with clubs that have far more advantages off it.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Regarding the size of this broadcast extension, the future money is in streaming revenue. The FTA and Fox deals need to be judged in light of whether or not they include streaming rights.

 

[Gronk]

Regarding the size of this broadcast extension, the future money is in streaming revenue. The FTA and Fox deals need to be judged in light of whether or not they include streaming rights.

IIRC the ^^^ Nine article says that the NRL CFO has spoken to Google (Alphabet) and Amazon. Google could buy the streaming rights for small change (but big $$ to us) and stream it on YouTube Premium. With that you also get all music streaming (like spotify) thrown in. Even the most dumbest of people know how to get on to YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/premium

 

[TheRam]

Well I have always argued that the foundation clubs own the game and not some suit who thinks (and acts) like he knows better. In the past decade NRL HQ have behaved like they are not accountable to any of the clubs, much to the dismay of the fans.

The days of the ex-footy players running the clubs are long gone. Our club (for example) have amassed a highly credentialed board and are more than capable of calling the NRL governance shots moving forward.

The EPL model is ..

Each of the 20 clubs are a Shareholder in the Premier League. Consultation is at the heart of the Premier League and Shareholder meetings are the ultimate decision-making forum for Premier League policy and are held at regular intervals during the course of the season.

The Premier League AGM takes place at the close of each season, at which time the relegated clubs transfer their shares to the clubs promoted into the Premier League from the Football League Championship.

Clubs have the opportunity to propose new rules or amendments at the Shareholder meeting. Each Member Club is entitled to one vote and all rule changes and major commercial contracts require the support of at least a two-thirds vote, or 14 clubs, to be agreed.

https://www.premierleague.com/about

The Charter goes on ..

Premier League Chairmen’s Charter

Season 2019/20

Foreword
The Chairmen’s Charter is a statement of our commitment and aim to run Premier League football to the highest possible standards in a professional manner and with the utmost integrity. With that aim we, the Chairmen of the Clubs in membership of the Premier League, are determined:
• To conduct our respective Club’s dealings with the utmost good faith and honesty.
• At all times to maintain a Rule book which is comprehensive, relevant and up-to-date.
• To adopt disciplinary procedures which are professional, fair and objective.
• To submit to penalties which are fair and realistic.
• To secure the monitoring of and compliance with the Rules at all times.

The Charter

The Chairmen’s Charter sets out our commitment to run Premier League football to the highest possible standards and with integrity. We will ensure that our Clubs:
• Behave with the utmost good faith and honesty to each other, do not unjustly criticise or disparage one another and maintain confidences.
• Will comply with the laws of the game and take all reasonable steps to ensure that the Manager, his staff and Players accept and observe the authority and decisions of Match Officials at all times.
• Follow Premier League and FA Rules not only to the letter but also to their spirit, and will ensure that our Clubs and Officials are fully aware of such rules and that we have effective procedures to implement the same.
• Will respect the contractual obligations and responsibilities of each other’s employees and not seek to breach these or to make illegal approaches.
• Will discharge their financial responsibilities and obligations to each other promptly and fully and not seek to avoid them.
• Will seek to resolve differences between each other without recourse to law


https://premierleague-static-files....4-edf8a56c23c1/2019-20-PL-Handbook-020819.pdf

Good luck with the NRL clubs running the game like the PL. For starters it is totally different running a comp when you are the King Kong, Ding a Long in the whole of the country and basically daylight next versus being the second banana in an ever shrinking market share of 4 major football codes.

You can afford to do very little other then maintain the status quo. The NRL is not anywhere near such an enviable position. The NRL needs to make very tough decisions on at least its footprint, grassroots and grow the game beyond its current tiny boarders. Forgive me, but I don't believe that this is something a committee of vested interests can manage at all if over 100 years of bitter infighting has taught us anything.

Where is your evidence that the 16 clubs that make up the NRL can deliver such a favourable outcome? My evidence that they can't is endless and spoken about ad nauseam virtually every day in all the media as anecdotal stories and the like by many. To emphasis as Matty Johns puts it, if league were a country, it would be Afghanistan.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Regarding the size of this broadcast extension, the future money is in streaming revenue. The FTA and Fox deals need to be judged in light of whether or not they include streaming rights.

*steaming

 

[Gary Gutful]

Good luck with the NRL clubs running the game like the PL. For starters it is totally different running a comp when you are the King Kong, Ding a Long in the whole of the country and basically daylight next versus being the second banana in an ever shrinking market share of 4 major football codes.

You can afford to do very little other then maintain the status quo. The NRL is not anywhere near such an enviable position. The NRL needs to make very tough decisions on at least its footprint, grassroots and grow the game beyond its current tiny boarders. Forgive me, but I don't believe that this is something a committee of vested interests can manage at all if over 100 years of bitter infighting has taught us anything.

Where is your evidence that the 16 clubs that make up the NRL can deliver such a favourable outcome? My evidence that they can't is endless and spoken about ad nauseam virtually every day in all the media as anecdotal stories and the like by many. To emphasis as Matty Johns puts it, if league were a country, it would be Afghanistan.

I'd like to see a complete rethink of how the code is run. It has been dogshit for a very long time.

 

[strider]

Everyone seemed to think the AFL was f**k loads better, but they seem close behind us up shit creek

 

[Gary Gutful]

Everyone seemed to think the AFL was f**k loads better, but they seem close behind us up shit creek

Didn't realise that Shit Creek was so long.

 

[Suitman]

Everyone seemed to think the AFL was f**k loads better, but they seem close behind us up shit creek

They took out a huge loan for to survive this.

 

[Gronk]

They took out a huge loan for to survive this.

Yeah but they own Marvel Stadium. So they might be up shit creek, but they have an outboard on a tinny and the NRL are in row boat. The ARU are dog paddling and swallowing feces fast. I don’t have an analogy for A-League, perhaps you can help.

 

[parrathruandthru]

Yeah but they own Marvel Stadium. So they might be up shit creek, but they have an outboard on a tinny and the NRL are in row boat. The ARU are dog paddling and swallowing feces fast. I don’t have an analogy for A-League, perhaps you can help.

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They're the shit in the creek

 

[strider]

Are we being too critical of our sporting competitions? ... clearly they are all getting hammered by this. I think we have to recognise we are a tiny scale setup and this is just the model it has to take. Sure things could be tidied up around the edges but maybe its just a year to year industry for our little competitions.

 

[Twizzle]

Marvel Stadium is owned and managed by the AFL but mortgaged to ANZ and NAB, so they have even more reason to get the season restarted so that they can pay their mortgage.

NRL have lease agreements to honour as well, I dont think they are not really that far apart.

 

[Twizzle]

Are we being too critical of our sporting competitions? ... clearly they are all getting hammered by this. I think we have to recognise we are a tiny scale setup and this is just the model it has to take. Sure things could be tidied up around the edges but maybe its just a year to year industry for our little competitions.

the media, like Kenty et al, are quick to pounce on the sports administrators for not managing their money properly while these sports keep these media morons in a job.

I reckon if we got rid of those bottom feeders called player agents, then there would be more money left in the sports administrators bank accounts for a rainy day similar to that of what we are currently experiencing

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The players are responsible for keeping player agents in a job, because the players are greedy merkins too.

 

[Twizzle]

The players are responsible for keeping player agents in a job, because the players are greedy merkins too.

The players bust their arses on a regular basis while the shiny arses leach of them and the industry. There have been some pretty shady agents and some have lost their licenses.