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OT - FP's Friday Soapbox (New Swimsuits) !

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I find it quite strange as a nation that we jump up and down when an athlete is found to have used performing enhancing drugs - but have no issue with performance enhancing swimsuits.

If our swimmers are so damn good (and they are) then why do they see the need to use spaceage swimsuits to give them an additional edge. All competitors should be racing on equal terms - isn't that what racing is about?

World records are falling like ten-pins at the Aussie trials - some are being absolutely smashed. Would they have broken these records without the suits?? We will never know. Maybe they would have, but as it stands I have a question mark about all of the times being recorded.

The World Smimming body (FINA) should show some guts and ban all of these types of performance enhancing swimsuits. Back to togs - fullstop! If everyone is wearing the same thing - whats the difference. At least then the winner has no question mark hanging over their heads about whether they are the fastest swimmer or not.

It still irks me that Cathy Freeman chose to wear that silly suit when she won Gold at the Sydney Games. She didn't need the thing - she would have won anyway. So why put that thought into everyones head that it may have been the suit that was the difference?

If we can't win wearing the same apparel as other competitors, then we simply aren't good enough. This is about who is the fastest swimmer - not who has the most technologically advanced swimsuit producer. Do we hand over our medals to Speedo if we win? Its about swimming - not Speedo!

What a shame this has overshadowed our magnificent Aussie swimmers. After the Olympics, I would like our swimmers to be recognised for their ability, skill, dedication and determination - not for our swimsuits to be at the cutting edge!!

Cheers !
 
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FP,

All the Athletes Competing have these suits, or at least have access to these suits. The Mens 100m final showed that all of them, Every one was wearing the New Speedo Suit.

For these suits to be effective you still have to put in the hours, Days, Weeks and Years of training, and if they enhance everyones times by .01 of a Second, across the board then there is no issue. Because everyone has access to them and everyone has a chance to use them.
 
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Just so you know, the Europeans are also smashing records in the New Speedo Suit, and the Yanks are about to have their trails in, guess what, the New suits. Also this suit is an evolutions of the previous Speedo suit, that cost guess what, the same as the new one.
 

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Jess Schipper (sp) said that hers filled with water last night and prevented her from finishing strong.

Wasn't an advantage for her it seems...
 

fanool

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The suits are obvously a big difference. Popov's record has been broken and he was the best ever.

For a real perspective on these suits just wait until the US trials are finished in late June. I would say that the only record that is left is Libby Lenton's. The others will be beaten by the Americans plus more.

Having said that, the performance of Athletes over the years increases. Look at the 1500m. Only 15 years ago you would have been champion of the world if you could swim a sub 15 min 1500. Now there are several swimmers who can do it.

So I think that the suits do make a difference but really in the scheme of things the likes of the Popov's the Thorpes and Spitz' records will fall in good time anyway so why not let the swimmers wear the suits. So who cares.
 

Gronk

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Yep ban these fandangled suits and make all the runners wear dunlop volleys as well. :sarcasm:
 

bartman

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Personally I blame the winged keel... everything became performance enhancing after that ;-)
 

urban eel

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gee its swimming FFS who cares
plus the only reason to swim fast is if a shark is chasing you
 

strider

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I'm with FP .... its a f**king joke that they keep making suits that enhance swimming ability

anything with the name "suit" in it is bad tbh
 

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Jes Schipper's suit was very poor fitting and has now been rectified, so I expect her times will come down a bit.

The are available to anyone...................anyone who has $600

Its no different to Casey Stoner getting a better bike from Ducati every year, and if he doesn't he'll be left behind.

I'm all for the new suits, we have better coaching and training methods so why not better swim suits.

If we don't use them, all the other countries will leave us behind.
 

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strider said:
I'm with FP .... its a f**king joke that they keep making suits that enhance swimming ability

anything with the name "suit" in it is bad tbh

lol,

Speedoman
 

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Twizzle said:
If we don't use them, all the other countries will leave us behind.

My point is they should be banned for ALL competitors !

And please don't compare swimming with Motor Sports.
 

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forward pass said:
My point is they should be banned for ALL competitors !

And please don't compare swimming with Motor Sports.

I think its relevant to compare the progress in technology.

OK, lets look at Golf, the balls travel alot further nowdays and the technology improvements in the clubs is also a contrast from 50 years ago.

Its the 21st Century, not the stone age.
 

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forward pass said:
My point is they should be banned for ALL competitors !

And please don't compare swimming with Motor Sports.

I agree lets ban all swim suits, that way everything will be even.
 

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