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OT: Joe Biden

Blair

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I can move this to crowded house easily enough?
Keep it here, Meth. I'm actually enjoying it. I use to love US Presidential Elections but ignored the 2016 one (two terrible candidates!) and then skillfully ignored the entire DJT term.

It can be done and it's my little revenge on DJT, he's on 'ignore'. That has to be his worst nightmare. I'm not engaging in his latest bid either, apart from here, with you guys.
 

Blair

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Maybe this should be up in Crowded House? It's a Trump thread (and like the man himself it's never going away) right in the middle of our footy forum.
 

Meth

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Maybe this should be up in Crowded House? It's a Trump thread (and like the man himself it's never going away) right in the middle of our footy forum.

meh. It says ‘OT’- my take is the crowded house is more relevant to kiwis exclusively
 

JJ

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Saw the Hulkster today, just needed old Joe to run from the crowd and clothesline him, and the the Donald come to the rescu Le with a signature move

Amazing stuff
 

Meth

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Saw the Hulkster today, just needed old Joe to run from the crowd and clothesline him, and the the Donald come to the rescu Le with a signature move

Amazing stuff

the perfect encapsulation of America
 

JJ

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Embarrassing tbh tgat he dragged it out, I don’t think he was especially good as president, but seems a more decent human than many in politics and has had more than his share of tragedy…. Quite the legacy overall
 
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Meth

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i actually agree that she is terrible. I prefer a dopey Biden to her. But aside from that, she has also been tarred by his brush and is associated with his (unpopular) administration. If the Democrats want a chance, they need to go left field.

but yeah, barring a miracle, this one is finished
 

Blair

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The only person who could win it from here is Michelle Obama.

There's too much of the 'dynasty' about that. Way back in 2008, when her husband came from leftfield, I was rapt.

Here's one reason, if Hilary had won (and she was favourite, both for the party nomination and the general election) and she'd served two terms as president (again, as expected) to 2017, then it would've made it 36 straight years with a Bush or Clinton as president or vice-president.

It's not the Philippines, or Indonesia, or Jordan, or Syria. The US is supposed to be an open democracy.
 
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sup42

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I really struggle to get why some Democrats dislike Harris. I mean compared to the two old men she is relatively competent, articulate, much smarter than the old men and young enough for the job.

Apart from being black and female I do not see any strong evidence that she is not an easy choice for people over the odious psychopath on the opposite side.

Also I do not buy into her polling numbers as they stand representing where they could sit with the might of a presidential campaign drive behind her. In the last few hours I have noticed she has changed the register of her at times whinny voice (yes her voice is annoying). She has also given careful and deliberate speeches around earning the nomination.

If Donald Trump who everybody thought was a joke could come in as a rank outsider then enjoy the hype of being something different, Harris can certainly do the same, bring new energy, reinvent herself, persuade her detractors in her own base.

Put it this way, MAGA are afraid of her, they are trying to challenge her right to stand. Which pretty much exposes the lie that they wanted Harris over Biden. What MAGA realise is that Women are not a minority voting block in the US, they are the majority, and the MAGA hand maidens tale plan for women is a real threat to all female Americans.

Harris can ride off that, a women needs to litigate that issue, and Harris is both, a woman and a litigator.
It looks like Harris needs to pick a token white male Vice Pres if she gets the nomination (an interesting juxtaposition of Harris the token black woman last round).
 

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