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Eels Dude

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Amazing that he is so popular - I wonder why that is ??

Amazing eh... I think it's amazing how any thread in this forum about any topic suddenly results in criticism of Tim Smith. If you wanna bag Tim Smith go for it, but save it for another one of those 20,000 threads already doing so instead of making this this thread number 20,001.
 

Eels Dude

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Without opening the coaches manual too far, most teams have defences that are more of less on a par - even ours. The difference between say the Storm and the eels in defence is fatigue. Its what seperates the good defences from the bad, what creates holes behind the ruck and makes brick walls.
The halves settle the plays, they keep structure, they make sure when they kick the ball it has meaning, they get repeat plays.

Cooper Cronk will never be a great of the game but he does all the little things well and by doing this, he gives his forwards the approprite rest to be able to settle their defence something which is very hard to do when you are always on the back foot.

That's rubbish. The Storm can defend and defend for the entire 80 minutes. If you can do that you put yourself in a great position to win the football game. Parra played with intense defence for a couple of sets, but then let easy breaks be made up the middle. Strong defensive sides do not do that. That's what separates us from the Storm, it has nothing to do with fatigue.
 

strider

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I reckon we had some very good periods of defense tonight ..... but then once in a while we let in soft tries :?
 

MrT

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I'm not sure about the fatigue comment. We look very slow both in attack and defence.

Hagan has som ereal issues on his hands. One thing that bothers me is that Hagan has never coached a side whuch was strong defensively.
As good as Knights were with johns, they would leak some heavy points at times
 

strider

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I'm not sure about the fatigue comment. We look very slow both in attack and defence.

Hagan has som ereal issues on his hands. One thing that bothers me is that Hagan has never coached a side whuch was strong defensively.
As good as Knights were with johns, they would leak some heavy points at times
very true
 

Fathead

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That's rubbish. The Storm can defend and defend for the entire 80 minutes. If you can do that you put yourself in a great position to win the football game. Parra played with intense defence for a couple of sets, but then let easy breaks be made up the middle. Strong defensive sides do not do that. That's what separates us from the Storm, it has nothing to do with fatigue.

You reckon ? fatigue is both physical and mental. When your halves dont control a game, mentally you can get as fatigued as you can physically. The storm have great confidence in the fact that every player knows what his role is and are doing that role. They also have great faith in the ability of their halves so therefore there is minimal mental fatigue.

Our boys had a dig tonight but we had no conductor, we had no structure and that brings on fatigue. At this level even minimal fatigue will showcase itself in poor defensive reads.
 

Kornstar

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We are conceding more than 20 points per game. If you concede 20 points per game you are not going to win too many games. Therein ends the lesson.

So as the title says defence and you acknowledge that if we concede more than 20 points per game we will lose, how exactly is this Tim Smith's fault??????

As someone else said, bag him all you like in every other thread but why in this DEFENCE thread?????????

You sound like you are laying the boot in for the sake of it......
 

Fathead

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Amazing eh... I think it's amazing how any thread in this forum about any topic suddenly results in criticism of Tim Smith. If you wanna bag Tim Smith go for it, but save it for another one of those 20,000 threads already doing so instead of making this this thread number 20,001.

Actually, defensively I usually bag Grothe but I cant argue with the 20,000 other threads that overstate Tim Smiths lack of ability.
 

Fathead

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So as the title says defence and you acknowledge that if we concede more than 20 points per game we will lose, how exactly is this Tim Smith's fault??????

As someone else said, bag him all you like in every other thread but why in this DEFENCE thread?????????

You sound like you are laying the boot in for the sake of it......

You see young grasshopper its all connected to those who play in the halves.
Am I laying the boot into Tim ? Maybe I am. but I am saying there is a connection.
If I wanted to lay the boot into Tim for the sake of it, I would just go to the "tim smith appreciation" thread.
 

Kornstar

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You see young grasshopper its all connected to those who play in the halves.
Am I laying the boot into Tim ? Maybe I am. but I am saying there is a connection.
If I wanted to lay the boot into Tim for the sake of it, I would just go to the "tim smith appreciation" thread.

What does the half have to do with defence though? I don't get it......
 

MRJUCY

Juniors
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Parra's defence especially in out own twenty has been terrible. I think they're giving away games before they've even got into them which has meant they haven't got the opportunity to play in attack to their potential.
 

Tekken Lord

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What does the half have to do with defence though? I don't get it......

Well obviously it's the 1/2 responsibility to make sure we are a strong defensive unit, just like it's the forwards responsibility to manage our kicking game.

But seriously he hates Smith and blames him for everything, instead of seeing the real picture, he really should read my sig.
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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That's rubbish. The Storm can defend and defend for the entire 80 minutes. If you can do that you put yourself in a great position to win the football game.

Actually, the Storm can wrestle for 80 minutes, thus making the opposition tired to score point at the end of the match and then making the opposition attack very weak because of lack of energy.

Its why players get so frusturated playing the Storm and why it is so rare to score against them in the last 20 minutes of the match.
 

Ant

Juniors
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I think our defence was much better we generally did move up fast.

Our outside backs are going to take time. We would have spent the whole off season with the first round combo
Hayne/Grothe right side
Inu/Reddy left side

Now we have
Hayne/TT left side
Reddy/Grothe right side.

The pre-season was spent practicing with mateo and finch 3 in on each side, now its finch and Smith.

So our whole outside defence is learning and TT, Hayne and Reddy have played very little first grade in their current spots.

People just expect miracles from everybody, straight away. Continuity is what creates good teams.
 

B-Tron 3000

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I think our defence was much better we generally did move up fast.

Our outside backs are going to take time. We would have spent the whole off season with the first round combo
Hayne/Grothe right side
Inu/Reddy left side

Now we have
Hayne/TT left side
Reddy/Grothe right side.

The pre-season was spent practicing with mateo and finch 3 in on each side, now its finch and Smith.

So our whole outside defence is learning and TT, Hayne and Reddy have played very little first grade in their current spots.

People just expect miracles from everybody, straight away. Continuity is what creates good teams.
Jeez Ant that's two posts in a row where you analyse in a sensible fashion - you'll be banned from the internet soon!

i disagree about our line speed however. I still think we were slow.
 

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