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Owen Glenn pushes for second NZ NRL franchise

hitman82

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/6529312/Owen-Glenn-pushes-for-second-NZ-NRL-franchise

Owen Glenn pushes for second NZ NRL franchise


Owen Glenn has only had shares in the Warriors for days but the New Zealand multi-millionaire is already lobbying for a second Kiwi team and has held talks with a consortium led by former NRL chief executive David Moffett.

Glenn bailed up Shane Mattiske, the NRL's director of strategy and special projects, after the Warriors loss to Manly at Eden Park on Sunday to ask what the NRL would need to green-light a second New Zealand franchise, and pledged to meet any conditions they set.

The 73-year-old Warriors co-owner, who is estimated to be worth NZ$900 million, said he had also asked NRL chief executive David Gallop over dinner last Thursday about the criteria for a new club, and was told each application would be considered on merit.

"But I asked this gentleman [Mattiske], what criteria do you want? If you say to me sign up another 100,000 people [supporters], or another 20 [junior] clubs, whatever you want - tell me, and I will do it, and I will come knocking on your door,'' Glenn said. "Sydney has got nine [clubs], why can't we get two?''.

Before taking a 50 per cent stake in the Warriors last week, Glenn discussed a South Island team with Moffett, who is heading up a consortium that also includes former Kiwis and Warriors coach Frank Endacott and ex-NZRL director Bernie Woods.

''I actually spoke to Owen Glenn about the possibility he might like to invest in a start up team here in Christchurch,'' Moffett said.

''Myself, Frank Endacott and Bernie Woods have been looking at it but it is going to take someone like Owen Glenn to get it off the ground.

''Everything else is a fait complei; we've got the city, we've got the grounds, we've got the population that can support a team and rugby league - especially on the West Coast - is very strong around here.''

Moffett said he had also spoken with Christchurch Council, which is rebuilding the city after last year's devastating earthquakes, and the bid has the support of the NZRL, with chief executive Jim Doyle endorsing a South Island team in a recent Sun Herald article.

With 29 per cent of NRL players of Polynesian heritage and the Warriors having won the last two NYC under 20s premierships, Moffett said New Zealand easily had the depth of talent for a second team.

''There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that there should be a second New Zealand team,'' Moffett said.
''What worries me is that the vested interests in Australia will look to have a team in somewhere like Perth rather than New Zealand, but where are they going to get the talent for that from - New Zealand. To me that is wrong.

With a decision due to be made on expansion next year, consortiums have emerged in Perth, Central Coast, Brisbane, Ipswich, Central Queensland, Papua New Guinea and Christchurch, although the South Island team would be expected to also play at Dunedin.

Despite buying into the Warriors, Glenn said he could see no reason he couldn't support two New Zealdn teams in the NRL.

"Why not?'' he said. ''Not that I've heard of, but we can get someone else to own it, and that would be even healthier [for the game] ... if we can bring strength to the Warriors, to nurture rugby league, even if we are doing it to create another franchise, isn't the game the beneficiary?''

Gallop said a South Island team would be considered.

''I can't knock Owen's enthusiasm and we all know what a great nursery New Zealand is for our game but we would need to be careful not to dilute the progress that the Warriors are making and consider what the financial return in terms of television rights would be from that market,'' Gallop said.
 

hitman82

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Hopefully a 2nd NZ franchise would have the common decency, to bring some games to WellyTown!

I concur! We get such shit sport here. The cricket (boring) the Phoenix (gay) and the Hurricanes (boring + gay). No wonder I never leave my house.
 

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I'm all for a second franchise, but I just can't see how it would work if everything was spread around amongst all the areas that want games. They need a permanent home base.

One, or at the most two, games per year at another location is workable, but if we start saying 3 in Chch, 2 in Dunedin, 1 on the West Coast, 2 in Wellington, etc etc, I just can't see how they'd be able to keep everyone happy - players, sponsors & fans.

I don't like the idea of the Warriors taking home games out of Auckland but that's a purely selfish view. But "for the good of the game" maybe they could play a part here too.
 

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Jeez he's a hyperactive Lil Bugger isn't he?! Thought he'd be happy just focusing on his Warriors atm.
I like the idea from a fan point of view...but is it viable yet? Would fans turn up in say Christchurch, week in week out...after the hype has gone, with a few losses in a row and the southern winter kicking in? Yes we got 20 000 for Warriors Roosters in the last game in a freezing rainy day- but would that happen every week, or did people just brave it for the 'one off?'
Going along to Canty rep games, it's hard to drum up decent crowds even with only 3-4 games a year and $5 entry. I know NRL would have that extra hype...but I dunno.
And would players want to move to the 'Shakey City' atm?

Same for Wellington. After the hype, after the thing settles into the season, would the punters keep going?

That said- I'd love a Chch one, and would likely get a season ticket.
 

Micistm

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If he does want to promote the game- I would ask if he was prepared to take the Warriors around the country for a game or two? So far, the games we've had down here in Chch have been thanks to the Aussie team, not the Warriors.
Although the Charity game in Greymouth was brilliant and hats off to them for that.
 

JoeD

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Radio sport interview this morning he says he favours a 2nd Auckland based team. Reckons $20 mil would do it and he's ready to go. The money is burning a whole in his pocket. Quick - someone come up with a proposal. Pukekohe Leaugue Unlimited Pirates?
 

NZ Warrior

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Radio sport interview this morning he says he favours a 2nd Auckland based team. Reckons $20 mil would do it and he's ready to go. The money is burning a whole in his pocket. Quick - someone come up with a proposal. Pukekohe Leaugue Unlimited Pirates?

No, no, no, no!
 

Meth

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Definitely don't care for the idea of a second Auckland franchise.

But Rugby League in NZ needs men like Owen Glenn.
 

Juju

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Second Auckland NRL franchise would be absolute stupidity...
So what that we've won the toyota cup twice - we struggle to get 10k to most winter games.

Concentrate on the Warriors becoming a dynasty with 20000 members then focus on this other folly.
 

JoeD

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Other issue is TV rights, which is where the real money is. Would having a 2nd Auckland team (or even any 2nd team in NZ for that matter) increase sky/fox subscriptions?
 

Izz

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Second Auckland NRL franchise would be absolute stupidity...
So what that we've won the toyota cup twice - we struggle to get 10k to most winter games.

Concentrate on the Warriors becoming a dynasty with 20000 members then focus on this other folly.
+1
 

hitman82

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Wellington is the place to do it.

The Hurricanes and Phoenix are piss poor excuses for a local team in our capital.

The governing city of NZ needs a high quality team playing in a high quality comp.

We'd find it easy to attract players as Wellington is an awesome place to live, very centralised with good public transport and perfect for families.

Our support catchment area would stretch to Palmerston North (with direct train transport available) and even Napier and Taupo for those dedicated fans who fancy a 4 hour drive.

We could play a couple of games in the South to give the game better exposure on a national level and attract more TV fans.

More positive NZ league news:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=10790261
The Warriors' new ownership team has made every post a winner so far, even if the opening day extravaganza at Eden Park fell flatter than a wayward skydiver as the Manly Sea Eagles made Brian McClennan's side pay for a stream of errors.

Owen Glenn and Eric Watson are an odd couple but they have been united and equal in the business of making sensible public statements over the past week.

Their pronouncements are spot on - not only hitting the mark, but choosing the right marks to hit. In a matter of days, they have exposed the New Zealand Rugby Union for the poorly run anachronism that it is, reignited the vital stadium debate, and now stirred the campaign to get a second NRL side in this country.

How refreshing to hear these influential owners getting involved in important debates - the charismatic new part-owner Glenn is a natural in this department and a welcome addition to the sporting landscape, but Watson has been disappointingly remote since taking over a beleaguered club more than a decade ago.

When the new ownership deal was announced, Watson delivered the first blow, pushing for Auckland to "get the stadium it deserves" and questioning why Dunedin has one while the major city doesn't.

Influential people need to keep pushing this point, and not only in public. Dare it be said here yet again, but professional sport in Auckland will never soar to the heights possible until this disaster of a stadium situation is sorted out.

Glenn then weighed in, stating the blindingly obvious in criticising a lack of corporate nous and professionalism in the flailing NZRU, specifically over its ham-fisted attempts to attract private money.

He followed that up with a call for a second NRL team to be established in New Zealand, revealing he had already talked to the Australians and also a "consortium" - headed by former NZRU chief executive David Moffett - that wanted to base a team in Christchurch.

The time is right for the NRL to strike here. The NRL is being run by a new independent commission which will have a great deal more broadcasting money to work with, even if some of the predictions around this new windfall may be exaggerated.

With the Warriors well established, having finally got their recruitment and development in order, a second team will establish a brilliant New Zealand rivalry and help the game rise throughout the country.

Whether Glenn should be involved in two franchises is debatable. Independent teams, with no conflicts of interest, would be preferable. A fierce rivalry will be all the better for not having a common owner.

Moffett is, to my mind, as good as any to lead a bid for a second NRL team.

For starters, he has remarkably wide experience, heading the NZRU, Welsh rugby and the NRL.

Unlike so many people involved with New Zealand rugby over the years, he also has the ability to communicate in a way that engages the public. Whether he has the right people around him remains to be seen.

However, Moffett's intention to station the team in Christchurch must be open to question. While it would be nice to think this is possible, the after effects and aftershocks of the earthquake tragedy cannot be ignored. There is no getting around the fact that a Christchurch-based team would struggle to get leading players and their families to live there, and there is no way that a new team will get off the ground without a platoon of imports. Indeed, there are no NRL-class players in Christchurch which means the entire squad would initially be imported.

Even some of the Crusaders rugby players and family members have been understandably twitchy about returning.

Oh, to be proved wrong on this count, of course. To appear to kick Christchurch while it is down is hardly a pleasant business. But there are too many uncertainties - including financial - regarding Christchurch.

At the very least, there should be hefty debate about where to situate a new team. Hamilton would be my choice. It has the best stadium in the country (along with Otago's glasshouse, although the new one in Christchurch will be ideal), its proximity to Auckland would bring a host of benefits including in finance and player recruitment, and the Waikato and Bay of Plenty areas are a hotbed of football talent.

To promote the Christchurch option is a very New Zealand way of looking at what needs to be seen via an Australian perspective. There may be sentiment and politics attached from a New Zealand point of view, but it would be very surprising if the NRL regarded earthquake-ravaged Christchurch as an attractive option, let alone the automatic one.

The city does not have enough of a strong, deep-seated league history to overwhelm legitimate doubts or have even been an automatic choice in the first place.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/6533952/New-Kiwis-sponsorship-will-help-grow-league
New Zealand Rugby League unveiled the "biggest sponsorship deal" in the organisation's history yesterday.

Pirtek – a company which specialises in fluid transfer solutions – has agreed to a three-year deal.

The company was involved with the Kiwis during the 2008 World Cup but decided not to continue its sponsorship after the tournament.

At a press conference in Auckland yesterday, which was attended by Kiwis coach Stephen Kearney, Pirtek confirmed it had agreed to come back on board.

The deal, which NZRL boss Jim Doyle described as significant, will see money directed into the national side and also at league's grassroots.

"It's a very special day for the New Zealand Rugby League. It's that special that Stephen's flown from Australia for today," Doyle said.

"Today we are welcoming Pirtek back into the family.The positive thing about Pirtek's involvement is that it's actually from grassroots to Kiwis. It's not just about the Kiwis and being the main sponsor on the front of the jersey.

"It's about helping us continue to grow and develop the game. Their investment will be about helping the grassroots and all of our clubs."
 

hitro

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I reckon if the junior warriors win again and the warriors win or even make the final, league political animals in Aus will want a second team in NZ to weaken the power base and divide the nursery. This could be a really good thing and the Warriors can go back to being the Auckland Warriors instead of the confusing NZ Warriors. Great if Owen Glenn wants to fund that too, shesh he must have deep pockets! What if a second team are the Southern Somethings as in south of Bombay or Hamilton and unite in their dislike of Auckland, with home games in Welly Chch Dunners and West Coast
 

Warmess

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Would kill for a team in Welly. After reading all about how Wellington needs a team for years now, got major sad face reading about how Glenn wants it in Chch D:
 
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