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Parra A grade teams?

franklin2323

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The Wenty players were told last night at training that they are playing in the div 1 & 2 Parra comp this year and the competition will be regraded sometime in the season. Penrith have okayed them to play in their comp as of next year. So consider the Wenty boys locked and loaded to have a crack at their 8th straight premiership.

But Penrith District has a point system also. Wasn't that the problem with playing in Parramatta???

Next year makes more sense. It's too soon before the comp starts to be adding teams assigning players points etc
 

Captain Mulga

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But Penrith District has a point system also. Wasn't that the problem with playing in Parramatta???

Next year makes more sense. It's too soon before the comp starts to be adding teams assigning players points etc

Penrith points system rewards loyalty.
Parramatta system has little or no reward for loyaly and penalises players who become better.
Points systems can work to make competitions even such as in Bundy Cup but when the same principals are applied to competitions under that level that are feeding to that level they have to reward players who go up and come back or there is no incentive to better yourself and no reward for loyalty to your club.
 

franklin2323

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Penrith points system rewards loyalty.
Parramatta system has little or no reward for loyaly and penalises players who become better.
Points systems can work to make competitions even such as in Bundy Cup but when the same principals are applied to competitions under that level that are feeding to that level they have to reward players who go up and come back or there is no incentive to better yourself and no reward for loyalty to your club.

Ah makes sense now. I don't blame them. Penrith's got brought in after 2005 when Doonside had no less than 9 former NRL players in their squad. Now it's so much better you can still get a great "import" if you have enough juniors in your team much like the Jim Beam cup point score.

Back then A Grade had 6 Div 1 teams now there's 12 and mid comp it breaks up to Div 1 and Div 2. Last year a couple of former Div 2 teams actually made it in over a couple of "Powerhouses" so it works. So I can see what Parra is trying to do just poorly excuted
 
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Captain Mulga

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Ah makes sense now. I don't blame them. Penrith's got brought in after 2005 when Doonside had no less than 9 former NRL players in their squad. Now it's so much better you can still get a great "import" if you have enough juniors in your team much like the Jim Beam cup point score.

Back then A Grade had 6 Div 1 teams now there's 12 and mid comp it breaks up to Div 1 and Div 2. Last year a couple of former Div 2 teams actually made it in over a couple of "Powerhouses" so it works. So I can see what Parra is trying to do just poorly excuted

Your absolutely right, the whole thing has been mis-managed.
The sad thing is the clubs tried in vain to alert the junior league management and even came up with a solution but they were dismissed and they are still in a mess.
 

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just heard this is 1st div lineup cabramatta1 , lalor park, seven hills , wenty, mounties ,rousehill, merrylands1 , hills disrict mounties vs wenty 1st round match deferred
 

franklin2323

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Your absolutely right, the whole thing has been mis-managed.
The sad thing is the clubs tried in vain to alert the junior league management and even came up with a solution but they were dismissed and they are still in a mess.

Well that is just stupid the clubs need to have an imput they need to get players etc. Hopefully for you guys this scares them into a compromise. We can accomodate the extra clubs but we have about 18 A grade clubs in 3 div. But we need all Districts thriving not just a couple
 

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The players at Wenty were told last night that the NSWRL is starting a reserve grade Bundy Cup in a few weeks. So that means teams like Wentys regular A grade div 1 side will bump up into that comp and play the likes of Sydney Bulls or whoever else would be able to field a Bundy reggies side. Wentys A reserves will now advance up into Division 1 for the regular comp. Word also is there are 10 teams now to kick off Parramatta A grade Division 1 this year compared to the low numbers in 2009. This should balance out the comp somewhat i must say.
 
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The word on the grapevine is that the Parramatta Junior League are in the process of hatching a plan to kick Wenty and Mounties A Grades out of the comp the week before the finals.

Not sure how or why they would do that but it will surely spell the death of senior football in the Parra comp for a long time you would think.
 

The Wrong Eye

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I am hearing there is some sort of new A Grade comp across the districts next year. St Marys to be in this.Penrith officials not to happy.
 
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That will be exciting.
There has to be something for the spectators to watch that is better than the dribble that Parramatta is dishing up.

Cant wait.
 

Roland

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I am hearing there is some sort of new A Grade comp across the districts next year. St Marys to be in this.Penrith officials not to happy.

There was a story in the Penrith papers a few months ago saying that the NSWRL had approached all the clubs in the Penrith JRL to encourage them to play in the Sydney Shield next year. Maybe all districts have been approached.

Feltis threatened to ban all the junior teams from the Penrith comp for any club that joined that competition.
 
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There was a story in the Penrith papers a few months ago saying that the NSWRL had approached all the clubs in the Penrith JRL to encourage them to play in the Sydney Shield next year. Maybe all districts have been approached.

Feltis threatened to ban all the junior teams from the Penrith comp for any club that joined that competition.

Well that's just typical of the type of dinosaurs that are running our game.
The league try and run a competition to try and boost the struggling A Grade and we immediately get the threat to ban kids from playing the game.
I bet Soccer and AFL are sitting back hoping it happens.
 

bowes

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In the UK we forced most of our district leagues to merge into regional leagues in the 70s and it pretty much saved the game at that level, we used to just have one semi-pro north wide league and then local leagues with nothing between and most of them folded due to lack of teams. The only ones we've kept are for geographical reasons, we have some regional leagues with 7-8 divisions.

Sounds like Sydney needs the same just a few regional divisions (at least 2: one out west, one for the main city I'd guess maybe split further below top division) with lots of divisions
 

bazza

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In the UK we forced most of our district leagues to merge into regional leagues in the 70s and it pretty much saved the game at that level, we used to just have one semi-pro north wide league and then local leagues with nothing between and most of them folded due to lack of teams. The only ones we've kept are for geographical reasons, we have some regional leagues with 7-8 divisions.

Sounds like Sydney needs the same just a few regional divisions (at least 2: one out west, one for the main city I'd guess maybe split further below top division) with lots of divisions

Something like a Sydney wide comp with 2 divisions of 10 teams with competitions under that split regionally into South-East, North-East and West would be the most practical and help keep players in the game - however, there would be plenty of vested interests that would not be keen
 
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Something like a Sydney wide comp with 2 divisions of 10 teams with competitions under that split regionally into South-East, North-East and West would be the most practical and help keep players in the game - however, there would be plenty of vested interests that would not be keen


Enough said.
 

bowes

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Our district leagues still get a say in which regional league their teams are allowed in and run tinpot cups that are prioritised over league games
 

The Major

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Wenty playing Merrylands in the decider this Sunday at Marconi, 4pm. Going for 8 straight premierships! We're happy at Wentworthville. Hey! Hey! Good luck lads.
 

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