Parra and Penrith A Grade to merge

[Roland]

There was a story in the Penrith Papers about a month ago saying that the 4 teams from the Parra 1st Division - Wenty, Hills, Cabra and Mounties would join the top 4 Tier A teams from Penrith - Emu Plains, St Marys, St Pats and St Clair - to form a Western Sydney Premier League.

The story said that most of the Parra clubs dont have the money to take on the big clubs resulting in the current 4 team comp.

 

[Inside Centre]

There was a story in the Penrith Papers about a month ago saying that the 4 teams from the Parra 1st Division - Wenty, Hills, Cabra and Mounties would join the top 4 Tier A teams from Penrith - Emu Plains, St Marys, St Pats and St Clair - to form a Western Sydney Premier League.

The story said that most of the Parra clubs dont have the money to take on the big clubs resulting in the current 4 team comp.

 

[Inside Centre]

Parra A grade finished Wenty only team worthy of going 2 super comp & only team that would compete Mounties forfeited last 4 games Cabramatta going into NSW cup no funding Hills no funding 10 teams in A2's get beat by 54 each week . have as many meetings as you want standard to compete just not there .

 

[back_to_the_future]

Parra A grade finished Wenty only team worthy of going 2 super comp & only team that would compete Mounties forfeited last 4 games Cabramatta going into NSW cup no funding Hills no funding 10 teams in A2's get beat by 54 each week . have as many meetings as you want standard to compete just not there .

Would have to agree with you there, in a super comp wenty only team to compete on the park and financially.

 

[TeamSatan]

Lalor park would clean up that lot.......

 

[Inside Centre]

Lalor park would clean up that lot.......[/QU Maybe off the field or in the local pub. Are Lalor park still playing any kind of senior footy

 

[Roland]

Lalor Park are in the A3 comp. Always in the semis.

Hills almost stopped Wenty's 7 year run this year. They led in the Grand Final with 4 minutes to go but Wenty scored again. Hills beat Wenty a couple of times earlier in the season.

 

[mono_mal]

Conceptually this is a good idea but sadly it seems the Parra A-Grade comp has fallen too far behind for its top teams to be competitive with the best from Penrith.
Though perhaps its the only option. A 4 team comp is hardly attractive.
Traditionally Parramatta have some strong clubs though these clubs opt to field their top teams in the Jim Beam Cup. This subsequently leaves little money for their reserves teams which have participated in the A Grade comps. Wenty's a-grade team is effectively their third grade team.
It was only a few years ago that we saw an extremely strong Parra a-grade comp involving teams in A1 and A2 from Wentworthville, Cabramatta, Mounties, Guildford, Seven Hills, Asquith. All financially strong clubs with licenced clubs backing!

 

[Roland]

The Penrith comp has also fallen away over the last few years with all the ex NRL players taken out by a points system. Darren Seymour took some Guildford players to Blacktown Pats and they led for most of the season before they crashed out to St Marys in the Preliminary final.

 

[footy watch]

penrith teams do not want to merge and neither should they. years ago they tried to merge when the parra comp was strong and were rejected.. maybe the fact is that terry rose has killed that "a" grade comp in parra. wenty have only won the last 6 or 7 titles due to the money they pay "a" graders and the fact that bundy players that cannot fit into the team due to points drop back to 'a' grade

 

[back_to_the_future]

Conceptually this is a good idea but sadly it seems the Parra A-Grade comp has fallen too far behind for its top teams to be competitive with the best from Penrith.
Though perhaps its the only option. A 4 team comp is hardly attractive.
Traditionally Parramatta have some strong clubs though these clubs opt to field their top teams in the Jim Beam Cup. This subsequently leaves little money for their reserves teams which have participated in the A Grade comps. Wenty's a-grade team is effectively their third grade team.
It was only a few years ago that we saw an extremely strong Parra a-grade comp involving teams in A1 and A2 from Wentworthville, Cabramatta, Mounties, Guildford, Seven Hills, Asquith. All financially strong clubs with licenced clubs backing!

Seven Hills dont have a club behind them

 

[Terry the Parra God]

penrith teams do not want to merge and neither should they. years ago they tried to merge when the parra comp was strong and were rejected.. maybe the fact is that terry rose has killed that "a" grade comp in parra. wenty have only won the last 6 or 7 titles due to the money they pay "a" graders and the fact that bundy players that cannot fit into the team due to points drop back to 'a' grade

I think all teams do that not just Wenty.
Cetainly Cabra have done it and Eddie Sue played A Grade for Mounties this year along with other Bundy players.
A Grade is stuffed cause Parra cant see past their own noses.
A combined comp would be great but Parra think they are the best comp and want to run it.
Dont think that is the case anymore.

 

[mono_mal]

back to the future,
seven hills did have the financial support of the Blacktown Demons Soccer Club for the years they competed in the Jim Beam and Parra Cup A1 and A2 competitions.

The majority of Parramatta's strong clubs are leagues club backed. This has seemingly hindered the competition in past seasons with new tax regulations and the GFC resulting in licenced clubs reducing their financial support of the football teams. For example Guildford, who in the past fielded teams in the JBC and A1/12, now field no senior teams alledgedly due to financial constraints.

Penriths clubs meanwhile seem to support themselves based upon strong junior development and retention and also stronger community sponsorship.

 

[back_to_the_future]

back to the future,
seven hills did have the financial support of the Blacktown Demons Soccer Club for the years they competed in the Jim Beam and Parra Cup A1 and A2 competitions.

The majority of Parramatta's strong clubs are leagues club backed. This has seemingly hindered the competition in past seasons with new tax regulations and the GFC resulting in licenced clubs reducing their financial support of the football teams. For example Guildford, who in the past fielded teams in the JBC and A1/12, now field no senior teams alledgedly due to financial constraints.

Penriths clubs meanwhile seem to support themselves based upon strong junior development and retention and also stronger community sponsorship.

Correct Mono-Mal that seven hills had financial support, but I am led to believe that the demons club has closed it doors and gone into administration. Correct me if I am wrong. It doesn't matter how the money is raised the clubs that can pay a decent $ will always do well eg wenty and some of the penrith teams.

 

[mono_mal]

True, although we should be pushing the stronger more capable clubs to enter teams in the BRC or even State Cup competitions. Brothers fared well in there first season and St Marys definately have the funds and resources.
Though perhaps even then a combined Parra/Penrith A-Grade comp is necessary. Though with Parra Juniors recent decisions regarding Cabramattas entrance into the state cup it seems they have only their own interests at heart and not those of rugby league. So I wouldnt expect any exciting announcements soon, which is unfortunate.

 

[back_to_the_future]

True, although we should be pushing the stronger more capable clubs to enter teams in the BRC or even State Cup competitions. Brothers fared well in there first season and St Marys definately have the funds and resources.
Though perhaps even then a combined Parra/Penrith A-Grade comp is necessary. Though with Parra Juniors recent decisions regarding Cabramattas entrance into the state cup it seems they have only their own interests at heart and not those of rugby league. So I wouldnt expect any exciting announcements soon, which is unfortunate.

I agree whole heartedly that bigger club should be encourgaed into entering the bundy cup or higher. As for Cabra's entrance into state league, that won't be happening as Cabra have now decided to go it alone as NSWRL and Parra couldn't come to any agreement.
All clubs only have their own interests at heart in the real scheme of things. Like the wentys, windsors, st marys they do great things for junior league, so it is a bit rich to bag cabra. Also one must remember it was nswrl that pushed the joint venture, cabra didn't intiaite it.

 

[footy watch]

i guess the biggest problem some bundy clubs have is you get absaloutely squat for winning the comp. some of the clubs are not backed by leagues clubs and rely on business partners for ongoing success and survival. it can cost up to 300k to run a decent club. So why would any a grade like st marys etc want to join the bundy cup.the exposure is not much greater and atleast they recieve a hefty cheque when or if they win the penrith comp.same goes for every other district.. nswrl need to support the bundy cup better financially

 

[back_to_the_future]

i guess the biggest problem some bundy clubs have is you get absaloutely squat for winning the comp. some of the clubs are not backed by leagues clubs and rely on business partners for ongoing success and survival. it can cost up to 300k to run a decent club. So why would any a grade like st marys etc want to join the bundy cup.the exposure is not much greater and atleast they recieve a hefty cheque when or if they win the penrith comp.same goes for every other district.. nswrl need to support the bundy cup better financially

Footy watch couldnt agree more, should be some financial reward for winning a bundy comp. Then again nswrl took less money from bundy when they cut jim beam. No wonder clubs like st marys remain in local comp and don't to join nswrl comp or a joint parra-penrith comp. It seems that parra, junior league that is, is always trying to find ways to bring wenty down after winning 7 or 8 comps,they should be trying to get the other clubs aiming for higher expectations.

 

[Terry the Parra God]

I agree, if a club is successful they should give it a rap not try and tear it down like they are with Cabra and Wenty, what is wrong with then.

The smaller clubs could learn a lessen from the bigger successful club but we cant have that can we.
That would mean that Parra dont hold all of the cards and the smaller clubs might learn how to play the game which would further erode the power of the dictator.

 

[The Wrong Eye]

The same in Penrith comp the stronger clubs get penalised for being successful and are made to drop to the standard of 2nd division to accomodate those clubs in 1st division.
Same clubs are still at the top each year even though they brought in a points system St Marys , Emu , Brothers (until entering Bundy).
They should be making the weaker clubs strive to be like the St Marys club not pulling them back to the field and leaving the better players without anywhere to play.