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Parra and Penrith A Grade to merge

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Very interesting letter found on parra district jrl website

LOYALTY OR CASH?

A particular Club has pushed its own agenda to the press in order to justify their own individual stance and remedy.
Over the past 30 years of “A” Grade football within this district the almighty dollar has been the catalyst towards 1st Division premiership glory, whereby the team who paid the most walked away with the trophy.
In 1990 the Junior League of the day banned payments to players, to counteract the licensed club team domination of the game and then emerged the non-licensed club teams who became ‘cashed-up’ by affluent hotels or funds received by ill-gotten gains. These underhand payments completely turned around the fortunes of the competition and there commenced a decade of premierships to previously uncrowned teams.
Come 2003, with the demise of the Metropolitan Cup and specifically the reserve grade element, the Parramatta Junior League introduced the revamped Parramatta Cup which was designed to cater for the void left by no reserve grade competition in the newly formed Jim Beam Cup. There was a re-introduction of player payments, however a salary cap type rule limited the amount payable, per team, in 1st Division to $30,000 per season.
From 2003 to 2009 the Clubs with the finance graced the 1st Division competitions and come season 2009 two past dominant teams withdrew from the top division as the past funds were not available because of financially hard times. This happening resulted in only 4 teams nominating for 1st Division and these teams ironically enough were the only 4 teams within the district who paid their players.
Once again the perils of the mighty dollar had an adverse effect on the 1st division competition.
During the 2009 season a Parramatta Junior League Club raised the issue of once again banning the payment of players, this proposal was tabled at the junior league seminar in October where Clubs voted in favour of the venture by 15 votes to 5.
This decision was ratified by the junior league board of management and payments were subsequently banned from season 2010 and beyond.
This ruling will increase the number of players in all “A” Grade competitions and simultaneously spread the player talent more proportionally to allow more teams to complete in the top division.
The Junior League has formulated a declaration for players to sign prior to their registration, stating they will not receive remuneration in any form for playing rugby league within the Parramatta District. Similarly each Club Secretary and President will also be required to sign a declaration stating the Club and others will not pay players.
Some maintain there will be a drain of players from the district to other areas with their ultimate aim to chase the dollars. We at Parramatta Junior Rugby League are confident overall of LOYALTY prevailing over CASH.
The payment of players’ problem is not restricted to Parramatta, other districts have and are experiencing the same problem where the paid teams are dominant, causing a reluctance for teams to enter the top division. The problem can be masqueraded by forming a 1st division competition with 12 or more teams whereby the teams with lesser ability share the ‘pain of defeat’ which is less frequent because there are more teams within the competition.
Currently we are examining all avenues in an endeavour to cater for all levels of “A” Grade. The best solution is to form a combined “A” Grade competition with the Penrith District which would allow the payment of players. In this regard Parramatta have four Clubs being, Cabramatta, Hills District, Mounties and Wentworthville who are prepared to join this venture however Penrith reveal only St Mary’s from their district is keen on the idea.
Bob Millward from the New South Wales Rugby League has been approached by Parramatta Junior League with the suggestion of the NSW Rugby League to make it mandatory for Bundy Cup Clubs within Parramatta and Penrith Districts to have their No.1. “A” Grade team play in the combined competition. This would add Windsor and Brothers to the competition as well as another team which has pledged its entry from outside these two districts. This would form an extremely viable 8 team competition. The first approach to Mr Millward proved fruitless and we are awaiting a reply after our second advance.
Without the Penrith teams, we are virtually assured of five 1st Division teams, which includes the outer district team. We will continue in our pursuit to formulate the best possible “A” Grade competitions to suit all of our stakeholder teams and in doing so be mindful of the need to cater for the majority and propagate the game and not heed to the demands and wants of any selfish individual clubs.
Terry ROSE




Last Modified on 18/12/2009 11:54
 
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All I can say about that is, what a load of sh*te.
Mr Rose promises extra teams every year and never delivers, next year there will be 4 teams in 1st division, there will be no team from outside the district.
He approached Canterbury teams to join the comp and what happened, they immediately joined the St George comp, same as lat year, he approached the Wests A Grade team and they ran straight to group 6.

I will give you the tip, no-one wants to join the Parra comp or step up to 1st division because it is sh*t and run like a school camp by a bully dictator.

Thanks for the 30 year history lesson of the Parra A Grade you idiot but here's a hint, no-one gives a crap, they only know one thing, since Terry Rose took over Parramatta, it has gone down hill to the point where no-one wants to play in it and they are losing players left right and centre.

No payments, who cares, the pub teams will still pay and we will be back to square one.
Terry Rose has no plan, he never will have a plan cause he doesn't care.

Bring on the AFL franchise for Western Sydney, they will take over the Parra and Penrith districts within three years and by the time someone at Parra realises what has happened all of our juniors will be playing in jerseys with no sleeves.
 

murraymob

Coach
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why would the penrith clubs want to join.I see no real benifit .St Marys are the only real cashed up club..Windsor already runs 2 teams.Brothers run bundy cup team.No other club could afford to play in this proposed comp
 

bowes

Juniors
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Surely if you going to go for a Penrith/Parramatta joint first division of A grade you may as well go for a reserve grade of Bundaberg Red Cup (with maybe a couple more sides and presumably without the Entrance) as it would be similar, the Bundy Cup is basically a Western Sydney league anyway and 5 out of 8 are from Parra or Penrith.
 
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There is no benefit for Penrith to merge with Parra DJRL for A-grade. They have a pretty strong a-grade comp I am led to believe.
I think the first thing that parra need to do is match their age groups with whats happening in higher levels. i.e. have an 18s competition and then 20s rathers than going from 17s to 19s and then open age. Hopefully this could keep young blokes in for an extra year and then they may play a-grade @ 21. :crazy:
 

The Major

Bench
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Don't forget when they brought in that auburn warriors side into the parra a-grade and were subsequently booted out after that big brawl at ringrose oval where one of the warriors players went and threw a bloke off the grandstand and then flogged his 14 year old son. A team called west city tigers came into the parra comp in 2003. They were based out of mt druitt somewhere I believe. Asquith was another. Shame to see some of the quality clubs fall by the side in the parra a grade comp over the years. Kellyville bushrangers comes to mind.
Who do you all think would win or figure well should this joint comp come to fruition and all clubs worked on the same salary cup budget? Wenty wold go alright seeing they've won every gf straight since 2003. I think them playing some genuine hard ass sides from the Penrith comp would certainly sort the men out from the boys
 

Highlander

Juniors
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he approached the Wests A Grade team and they ran straight to group 6.


Mate they didnt run they were forced to go to group 6 both Wests and group 6 had no choice in the matter.

I think you will find with AFL moving in there will be more forced mergers coming on to boost the local formats
 

BOMAR

Juniors
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from past experience i have found there are plenty of guys out there willing to play footy for no payment, but they are not prepared to have to pay to play. Since the introduction of compulsory insurance this has seen a steep decline in players. The smaller clubs cannot compete in player payments, but just to get a squad of 30 players a small club is looking at $10,000 ie 30 x $300. Then there are all those extra's like strapping,clothing etc. A player should be able to decide if he wants his wages insured, but what i have been led to belive the nrl clubs insurance is heavily subsidised by what the juniors pay.
 
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