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Parra to call last drinks

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it will never happen and he knows it this is just fitzy's obsession with seeing his name in print rearing its ugly head again
 

adamkungl

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How long til a Parra player, not doing anything actually wrong, is caught having a beer, or just hanging out at the pub with mates, and the Tele crucifies him.
 

Stagger eel

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lol....way to become one of the most unattractive clubs to play with.

how's the form of our Harold Mathews side again???
 

Nikki

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I can see Fitzys method to his madness here. If players are spending their $$$ on grog and ciggies, then they are gunna start feeding it into the Pokies.. Denis is a genious......... NOT!!! :lol:
 

Eels Dude

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If this were to be implented the club will have no chance of attracting players from other clubs, lose even MORE of our junior players to other clubs and therefore result in wooden spoon after wooden spoon. That will be a great way of selling more season tickets, memberships, merchandise. It would also do wonders for sponsorship. Everybody loves a side that comes last every year.

As Eric Grothe said during the week, he would NEVER sign a contract which stipulated an alcohol ban. And why should he? Most other players would do the same.
 
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fish eel

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No they haven't! A select few morons may have, but the majority of league players handle their grog and act in a responsible manner. Punish the few morons, not the blokes who do the right thing.

To a certain exten Bazal, the players have brought it upon themselves.

For example, take Brett Stewart and Watmough. It's not like they were outdrinking along.

Where were the responsible team mates pulling them aside before they'd had too much?

Having said that, bans and restrictions would only work if agreed to by the playing group - if people actually read what Fitzy said it is that he will raise it with players, but thinks it would only work if it was done across the board with other clubs, rather than Parra going alone.
 

mickdo

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Having said that, bans and restrictions would only work if agreed to by the playing group - if people actually read what Fitzy said it is that he will raise it with players, but thinks it would only work if it was done across the board with other clubs, rather than Parra going alone.

Why say it ffs? Is he deliberately trying to scare players away? The guy is incompetent.
 

Fee

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Seriously, he is definately the ringleader of the circus at the moment what is wrong with him, he hasnt said anything positive for the last couple of years, what is going through his head , Oh sorry NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!:crazy:
 

Parra

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It is as enforceable as other restrictions that players agree to when they sign on.

It's not desirable, but to claim it as unenforceable is either wrong, or the other clauses are useless as well - which is probably true - given the Joey Johns admissions.
 

Bazal

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To a certain exten Bazal, the players have brought it upon themselves.

For example, take Brett Stewart and Watmough. It's not like they were outdrinking along.

Where were the responsible team mates pulling them aside before they'd had too much?

Having said that, bans and restrictions would only work if agreed to by the playing group - if people actually read what Fitzy said it is that he will raise it with players, but thinks it would only work if it was done across the board with other clubs, rather than Parra going alone.

Given it was an official function, were they not also out with coaches, club officials and other sundry staff who could have pulled them aside though? Shall we ban all of them from drinking because two geniuss acted like geniuss?

The point is that we shouldn't ruin it for everyone just because a few select dickheads can't handle themselves. For example, Greg Bird...he was reportedly kicking on well into the night in his own home when his particular incident occurred...his mates could have done nothing to stop it, should they suffer for his actions? And would a ban have any affect on what the players do at home? How do you police that? Whether one club or all clubs do it, it's not a viable option because players will never agree to it (nor should they have to), it's practically impossible to police, and it will result in a wave of "negative publicity" from hack journos who catch a player having a glass of wine at dinner with his girlfriend and demonise him for it...
 

Eelectrica

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I'm not really a drinker myself, but what players do outside of 'office' hours is up to them. I don't know that the club can tell a whole bunch of youngsters to not enjoy themselves.

Really education is the only answer. Better off letting the players know they can drink, just don't go overboard with it because some one is waiting for them to fall.
 

fish eel

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Given it was an official function, were they not also out with coaches, club officials and other sundry staff who could have pulled them aside though? Shall we ban all of them from drinking because two geniuss acted like geniuss?

The point is that we shouldn't ruin it for everyone just because a few select dickheads can't handle themselves. For example, Greg Bird...he was reportedly kicking on well into the night in his own home when his particular incident occurred...his mates could have done nothing to stop it, should they suffer for his actions?


You've completely missed my point.

That is, the playing group as a whole need to take responsibility and pull the minority into line. You (ie responsible player) don't want to be tarred with the same brush? Then you take action and pull your boofhead teammate into line....

And would a ban have any affect on what the players do at home? How do you police that? Whether one club or all clubs do it, it's not a viable option because players will never agree to it (nor should they have to), it's practically impossible to police, and it will result in a wave of "negative publicity" from hack journos who catch a player having a glass of wine at dinner with his girlfriend and demonise him for it...

Yeah, if you read what I've said about drinking bans/restrictions, is that they will only work if they are put in place in consultation with the players.
 

Kiki

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i just saw this on the news. what is he smoking??? when the NRL itself says its silly and unrealistic, what makes him think he can carry it off?

also regular breath and urine tests...wow. what a way to build club unity. treating your players like convicts. GREAT WORK DENIS.
 

Bazal

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You've completely missed my point.

That is, the playing group as a whole need to take responsibility and pull the minority into line. You (ie responsible player) don't want to be tarred with the same brush? Then you take action and pull your boofhead teammate into line.....

And I simply mentioned that in the case of your example, the players in question were also drinking in the presence of coaches, club administrators, and other assorted staff at a sponsor's function. If you're expecting the players to shoulder some of the blame based on what Stewart and Watmough did later on, why not them too?
 
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