Parramatta Eels Holden Cup & Junior Reps Thread Part III

[T.S Quint]

'Yes, Rik, we've got a bloody video!!!'

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:lol:

 

[Forty20]

Probably the best moment from the video is Tyrell Fuimaono's monstrous fend right at the end. He is shaping up as another fantastic backrow prospect in something of a production line of them in recent times.

 

[hineyrulz]

40 as usual well done champ.

 

[half_back]

Probably the best moment from the video is Tyrell Fuimaono's monstrous fend right at the end. He is shaping up as another fantastic backrow prospect in something of a production line of them in recent times.

While maybe for another thread Tryell creates an unenviable problem for our recruitment group. Add Tyrell as forty said to our backrow stocks and who do we keep? We have Manu Tepai and Kenny tied up til 2017. Watmough as an edge/middle tied up til 2018. We have Pauli and Aloiai off this year and Fuimoano next year. This doesn't take into consideration Newbigging as I think all those mentioned are already projected above him. Also neglecting Gower as and edge middle who is off in 2016.

Aloiai I think will play first grade this year. Given all those mentioned would probably see themselves as top 25 players, and rightly so when their contracts are negotiated we can't have an edge heavy top 25 we can realistically run only one out and out edge player on the bench with 2 starting and perhaps a Gower type to cover either.

For what it is worth my projection pecking order for years end is:
Watmough
Moeroa
Mau
Aloiai
Edwards
Pauli

Tyrell still with a year to run but I can't see how if Aloiai is retained and I think it is a must then we can't retain Pauli or Tyrell except if they are prepared to accept second teir.

 

[Jake the snake]

While maybe for another thread Tryell creates an unenviable problem for our recruitment group. Add Tyrell as forty said to our backrow stocks and who do we keep? We have Manu Tepai and Kenny tied up til 2017. Watmough as an edge/middle tied up til 2018. We have Pauli and Aloiai off this year and Fuimoano next year. This doesn't take into consideration Newbigging as I think all those mentioned are already projected above him. Also neglecting Gower as and edge middle who is off in 2016.

Aloiai I think will play first grade this year. Given all those mentioned would probably see themselves as top 25 players, and rightly so when their contracts are negotiated we can't have an edge heavy top 25 we can realistically run only one out and out edge player on the bench with 2 starting and perhaps a Gower type to cover either.

For what it is worth my projection pecking order for years end is:
Watmough
Moeroa
Mau
Aloiai
Edwards
Pauli

Tyrell still with a year to run but I can't see how if Aloiai is retained and I think it is a must then we can't retain Pauli or Tyrell except if they are prepared to accept second teir.

Thank god we have Joseph Paulo under lock and key!!

 

[Tommy Coco]

Perhaps the evolution of Tepai and PaulI to FRF's.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

I certainly think that Tyrell could start his career off as a centre. I've no doubts that eventually Pauli will move into the middle, and Aloiai can also play on either the edge or the middle. Add these young edge forwards along with Alex Twal in the middle and there's some exciting times ahead for a young forward pack being led by Mannah, and Watmough.

 

[Forty20]

Hey half_back I know that backrow is Tyrell's preferred position but he has quite a bit of experience at centre. Do you think we could bring him into first grade as a centre (sort of like Jack Bird) to keep him on the main roster and then if need be move him into the backrow when whichever of Watmough/Ma'u/Edwards/Gower move on for whatever reason?

 

[hindy111]

Teapi and Alioia I don't see wasting them as frf...Keep them out wide.
Even Pauli I like outwide -Any word how pauli has been going in training ? I really think he can be a go too man close to the line.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

While maybe for another thread Tryell creates an unenviable problem for our recruitment group. Add Tyrell as forty said to our backrow stocks and who do we keep? We have Manu Tepai and Kenny tied up til 2017. Watmough as an edge/middle tied up til 2018. We have Pauli and Aloiai off this year and Fuimoano next year. This doesn't take into consideration Newbigging as I think all those mentioned are already projected above him. Also neglecting Gower as and edge middle who is off in 2016.

Aloiai I think will play first grade this year. Given all those mentioned would probably see themselves as top 25 players, and rightly so when their contracts are negotiated we can't have an edge heavy top 25 we can realistically run only one out and out edge player on the bench with 2 starting and perhaps a Gower type to cover either.

For what it is worth my projection pecking order for years end is:
Watmough
Moeroa
Mau
Aloiai
Edwards
Pauli

Tyrell still with a year to run but I can't see how if Aloiai is retained and I think it is a must then we can't retain Pauli or Tyrell except if they are prepared to accept second teir.

Is Fuimaono agile enough to play centre (I mean in first grade)? He's on the skinny side as forwards go and might only be playing edge forward in lower grades so he can get more involved.

Don't forget that he finishes NYC eligibility in 2016, then a year at Wenty makes 2017. If 2018 is his first full year of first grade any of our contracted first grade edge forwards (Ma'u, Edwards, Moeroa) could be gone by then.

 

[half_back]

Hey Forty, I see many similarities between Tyrell and Jack Bird. Both strong, can create space for outside men, offload and are aggressive. Neither is overly quick or big, in NRL terms. In all honesty I never thought Bird would be an NRL centre so this perhaps is a good test case for Tyrell. Davis assumedly would have one centre spot locked down long term and they both do play right edge assuming we can keep Davis..

Pou, most of the good NYC players as you know debut In grade in their final year of NYC and if Tyrell follows the path of Aloiai and Pauli he will more than likely play NSW Cup next year and look to debut in grade last next year. That's where the difficulty will begin. Young players (and their managers) want it all asap these days, patience is not a virtue seemingly.

I see no point of playing Tepai int the middle he has potential to be one of the best edge players in the game. His line running is exceptional that is lost in the middle. Aloiai has played a fair bit of Middle although with Watmough signed til the end of 2018 I can't see Aloiai happy to ride the pine waiting for injury and origin for the next 3 years.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Davis was playing left centre most of the time when he played centre last year and then on Friday night he was also playing left centre when he wasn't playing fullback.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I've seen a few references to Pauli Pauli eventually being moved to the middle. Is this a probable move, do people think? Or is it just because that's the way things seem to have gone for young forwards of late? Dave Taylor doesn't play in the middle yet, does he?

I'm the first to declare myself no expert but Pauli just doesn't look like a middle forward to me. In my mind he either gets his fitness and therefore his workrate up, and stays out wide, or his first grade career will dwindle and peter out.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Pou, most of the good NYC players as you know debut In grade in their final year of NYC and if Tyrell follows the path of Aloiai and Pauli he will more than likely play NSW Cup next year and look to debut in grade last next year. That's where the difficulty will begin. Young players (and their managers) want it all asap these days, patience is not a virtue seemingly.

Well you're always better off sticking with players that are proven in first grade than taking a risk on some kid who isn't even proven in the NYC.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

And I know Taylor gets a lot of shit put on him, and for the price maybe people have a point, but for pure talent he's right up there.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Taylor's one of those forwards (like Mateo) whose attacking ability is wasted in the middle but whose defence isn't good enough for the edges.

Pauli is another.

 

[caylo]

I've seen a few references to Pauli Pauli eventually being moved to the middle. Is this a probable move, do people think? Or is it just because that's the way things seem to have gone for young forwards of late? Dave Taylor doesn't play in the middle yet, does he?

I'm the first to declare myself no expert but Pauli just doesn't look like a middle forward to me. In my mind he either gets his fitness and therefore his workrate up, and stays out wide, or his first grade career will dwindle and peter out.

Its difficult to predict how the game will change over a the years but with the current interpretation i think he is to slow to play on the edges and mobile props/locks such as parker and fafita are becoming more popular. Guys like talalmoa have been moved from the edge to the middle and i think pauli will be the same. Edge backrowers are become more like centres and being agile and running good lines are iimportant.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Taylor's one of those forwards (like Mateo) whose attacking ability is wasted in the middle but whose defence isn't good enough for the edges.

Pauli is another.

But is Taylor's defence no good on the edge? Do you have some stats to hand? I'd have thought with his pace his defence would be at least reasonable. Mateo I can understand due to the lack of size/strength, but he should have the mobility covered. Maybe he's just lazy, or has poor technique. Pauli seems an athlete to me - I think his problem so far has been laziness or fitness.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Its difficult to predict how the game will change over a the years but with the current interpretation i think he is to slow to play on the edges and mobile props/locks such as parker and fafita are becoming more popular. Guys like talalmoa have been moved from the edge to the middle and i think pauli will be the same. Edge backrowers are become more like centres and being agile and running good lines are iimportant.

Do you mean Taumalolo (spelling)? Wasn't aware he'd been moved in. Would be a shame to see that bloke in the middle, as opposed to out wide where he could do some damage. Same with Pauli. As you suggest tho, with the new rules who knows.

 

[caylo]

Do you mean Taumalolo (spelling)? Wasn't aware he'd been moved in. Would be a shame to see that bloke in the middle, as opposed to out wide where he could do some damage. Same with Pauli. As you suggest tho, with the new rules who knows.

Yeah how even you spell some of those names, he was moved half way through last season and performed very well. The problem with big boppers out wide is they beat 1-2 defenders but dont have the speed or acceleration at least to capitalise. Throught the middle they will attract a couple of defendera amd even if they don't break tackles they can get their arms free and make room for the quicker guys guys to capitalise.
Pauli would make a good fafita /tamou style prop in a couple of years when he grows into his body imo