Poupou Escobar
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Pretty clear evidence of the value of Jersey Flegg in its current under 21s state. They had an under 21s comp decades ago, named Presidents Cup, and they got rid of it because none of the best 21 year olds played in it. They were all already in reserve grade or the NSWRL. Under 21s was seen as an unnecessary expense, so they cut it away and stuck with the under 19s as the highest tier of junior footy. Incidentally, back then the under 19s comp was known as Jersey Flegg Cup. It eventually made way for the under 20s National Youth Competition (Toyota then Holden Cup).Ok, here's some evidence/context around nrl squads being made up of players that have played open aged footy by 20 (happy to be corrected if any errors)
Canberra
Used 23 players this year, 16 debuted by 20, 7 didn’t make their NRL debuts by 20:
- 2 are UK players (Nicholson, Smithies), both debuted at 19 in Super league
- 3 debuted by 21 (Mariota, Horsburgh, Pattie), They all played NSW cup at 20
- Fogarty was 23 for his NRL debut and played reserves at 21
- Hosking was 25 for his NRL debut and played reserves at 21
Panthers
Used 28 players. 13 debuted by 20, 15 didn’t make their debuts by 20:
- 8 debuted by 21 (Jenkins, Laurie, Leota, Smith, To’o, Kenny, Martin, Henry) Jenkins/Laurie/Leota/Smith/To’o/Martin/Kenny player NSW cup at 20. Henry at 21
- Hassett debuted at 22, Riki at 26, Garner at 23, all played reserves at 20
- Geyer debuted at 23, Sommerton at 23, both played reserves at 21
- Toelau debuted at 25, played reserves at 22
- Eisenhuth debuted at 25, played reserves at 23. Had tumor in knee
So from 51 players:
- 44 players either played NRL or reserves by 20, only 7 did not, 86% of the players
- 49 players either played NRL or reserves by 21, only 2 did not (and one had a medical condition), that’s 96% of the players
I'm sure Delboy knows all this, but it seems he needs a reminder.